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That’s exactly the point ;) There’s no need to turn this project into WGE. This was a response to your class suggestions!

So, in your project, the combat system is being reworked to reduce speeds? (Similar interpretation;) This example is to make it clearer.

All the better, since you can’t seem to read the first post in the thread ;)

- Strengthening weak perks;

- No additional links between perks across schools

The class system was not invented in Heroes of Might and Magic; it shouldn't be attributed to it just for the sake of it.


No, my project had specific goals, and reducing speeds is a means to achieve them.


Well, from the first message, it follows that there are only 2 differences from TE:
1) Emphasis on aesthetics (a subjective factor)
2) No claims of balance

I will explain the second point:

The fact is that in this context, it will lead to overpowered upgrades to strong perks through strong (previously, there was a balance: strong perks were achieved through weak ones).

The most obvious example. Attack. +5/10/15% to melee damage. The skill itself is completely useless. But it opens access to very valuable skills like Battle Fury, Tactics, and Fire Arrows. And from your concept, it follows that Attack (as a weak perk) needs to be strengthened? Who would then refuse to upgrade a strong skill with super perks?

Or is the goal not to "strengthen perks," but to strengthen rarely taken perks? Then this is a pure TE approach.

P.S. For some reason, you invented a problem that doesn't exist and started dwelling on it. Everything that has been discussed still doesn't carry any informational value because it doesn't relate to the mod.

Well, of course it matters – we need to understand which direction the mod is heading and which direction it isn't.
For example, I just found out that you call the "Attack" skill a "school."

It would be especially interesting if there was an option to create new perks, not instead of the old ones, but in addition to them.

The same Valafar portal could be given as a skill, as it would be more logical than being a special ability.

In addition, each ability should belong to only one skill and not depend on others (except: ultimate abilities as descendants and racial abilities as ancestors).

So, you're going to remove all dependencies between the "schools"? Will you only leave connections with racial skills? This will definitely simplify the wheel (this is not a criticism).

Added 2 minutes ago
My suggestion for Fire Arrows: move them to the machinery tree after Sulfur Rain. This way, the player will either upgrade the rapid-fire ballista or the siege engines through the catapult. This is a better choice than having no choice at all (siege engines + rapid-fire = an overpowered ballista, and individually, it's just okay). It would also be good to strengthen the basic ballista.

Hmm, I looked at it - your siege engines are an alternative to rapid-fire. But this is a completely irrelevant alternative, in my opinion. Since the double shot with siege engines is much better than the triple shot without them (+ an extra perk for the catapult).

Added 7 minutes ago
The best thing, I think, is this: swap the perks of rapid-fire and the ballista (as well as the catapult and Sulfur Rain).
That is, the basic ballista gives +1 shot (x2 damage), the advanced one gives another +1 shot (x1.5 damage) + control + x2 durability. The same for the catapult.
Tie Fire Arrows as an alternative to the advanced ballista (between the basic catapult and ballista). This way, there will be a choice: double shot with siege engines, or triple controlled shot (and doubled ballista durability).

In addition, this provides a greater incentive to upgrade the advanced machinery (advanced perks are better than basic ones).

I'll make a reservation right away: in WGE, siege engines are planned to be placed as a level 3 catapult, i.e., incompatible with either the controlled or multi-shot ballista. But there, siege engines are much more powerful.

Added 11 minutes ago
Another idea: to simplify the wheel, move all unique perks (Wide Gates of Hell, Rune Recall, etc.) to the racial skill, while preserving the corresponding incoming connections from the "schools". In addition, standardize the upgrade of each "school" for all factions (except the Barbarian). That is, put all the differences in the racial skill.

In this mod, will there be skills that are unattainable for some races? Not the racial ones, but those that are almost available to everyone. For example, the Knight cannot access the Aura of Speed and Lucky Mage, the Demon cannot access Retribution, and everyone except the Knight, Warlock, and Necromancer cannot access Twilight.

I have a suggestion to expand the wheel to the following option: 9 standard perks for each skill, + 6 for the racial skill.

These racial skills are designed in the mod as the first-level abilities, dependent on the racial skills (according to the skill wheel).

Then there's no problem moving them to the racial skills as advanced perks (level 2), while preserving or adding connections to the skills from which they were taken. This would alleviate the burden on overloaded skills and populate an empty racial skill tree (where there's no choice of what to upgrade).

There's this option for upgrading units. The catapult should be enhanced with the "Ring of Machines" artifact or something similar.

But then the problem arises that it won't be possible to upgrade all racial skills?

The idea isn't without merit, but to talk about a significant advantage means lying.

This is an interesting option. However, additional connections from the Marksman to the Offensive Skills + from the Tent to Machine Mastery would be beneficial. Like a clever tent.
Without these connections, it might be possible to acquire both the Tent and the Offensive Skills simultaneously.

And why? Can you upgrade all the perks in defense at once? The point is precisely in the choice, and that's what makes it interesting.

Added 4 minutes ago

Well, it depends. Is it an alternative racial perk or a uniform racial perk (if you take 3, you get them all at once)? In my opinion, this is a significant advantage.

That's what makes racial abilities unique. And do all races have unique abilities? For example, how should we handle "Goblin Assistance"? It requires a cart.