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or maybe it’s better this way
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Nargott
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The difference between the upgraded light dragons is only a couple of skills; therefore, we can develop the difference between them based on stats – I think based on HP and initiative – giving them drastically different damage, attack, and defense parameters is probably not a good idea.
And the issue here is not the number of abilities, but their quality; some are fundamentally "amazing abilities," while others are minor.
SRD
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I agree. What I meant was, if we can create a sharp contrast between the tiers based on, for example, initiative and HP, then making the difference in attack/defense, for example, 20, might not be a good idea. Instead, it could be like this:
----------Light Dragon-------------White Dragon---------Elrath Dragon
damage---------30-50---------------------35-60-----------------30-65----
HP-----------200-------------------------230-------------------200-----
initiative-----------10----------------------10----------------------12------
-----------(Child of Light: immune to Blindness, Blinding)-----------
--------------------------------Unwavering Will -----------Purification
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I'm not sure if it's worth creating a new thread for this, and it could be included here. Idea: Free Cities of the East - a human city replacing the orcs. Army: 1 - Tier 3: redesigned creatures based on the Heavens. Tier 4: Priests of Ilat Tier 5: Pegasi Tier 6: Thunderbirds Tier 7: Air Dragons
----------Light Dragon-------------White Dragon---------Elrath Dragon
damage---------30-50---------------------35-60-----------------30-65----
HP-----------200-------------------------230-------------------200-----
initiative-----------10----------------------10----------------------12------
-----------(Child of Light: immune to Blindness, Blinding)-----------
--------------------------------Unwavering Will -----------Purification
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I'm not sure if it's worth creating a new thread for this, and it could be included here. Idea: Free Cities of the East - a human city replacing the orcs. Army: 1 - Tier 3: redesigned creatures based on the Heavens. Tier 4: Priests of Ilat Tier 5: Pegasi Tier 6: Thunderbirds Tier 7: Air Dragons
Nargott
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I agree with you too; I meant that if we can create a sharp contrast between upgrades based on, for example, initiative and HP, then, for example, it wouldn't be worth making the difference in attack/defense, for example, 20, but something like this could work.
Idea: Free Cities of the East - a human city replacing the Orcs.
Army:
1-3 levels: redesigned creatures based on Haven,
4th level: Priests of Ilat
5th level: Pegasi
6th level: Thunderbirds
7th level: Air Dragons
Ment
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Orcs could be given Silat dragons. It seems like Father-Sky gave his dragons for use, but Mother-Earth kept hers to herself.)
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They could also be given Shalassa dragons. According to the scenarios from Tribes of the East, orcs also treat Shalassa with respect.
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They could also be given Shalassa dragons. According to the scenarios from Tribes of the East, orcs also treat Shalassa with respect.
fktifzobr
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I'm not sure if it's worth creating a new thread for this, and it could be included here. Idea: Free Cities of the East – a human city replacing the Orcs.
Army:
1 - Level 3, reworked creatures based on Heavens,
Level 4 - Priests of Ilat
Level 5 - Pegasi
Level 6 - Thunderbirds
Level 7 - Air Dragons
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Orcs could be given Silat dragons. It's as if Father-Sky gave his dragons for use, and Mother-Earth kept hers.
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They could also be given Shalassa dragons. According to the scenarios from Warlords of the Horde, the Orcs also treat Shalassa with respect.
And also some forces that are older and stronger than Askh and Urgash, these forces made Sandro immortal
Ment
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Hmm, well, they came up with that later, of course. In Heroes 5, it's quite clear that Orcs revere Dragons; they simply worship a whole bunch of them, without choosing just one.
Again, I'll mention the scenario in Tribes of the East; as far as I remember, there was a clear hint that it was Shalassa, and not some random water spirit. Correct me if I'm wrong.
fktifzobr
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you’re probably right; in the video, water elementals came to visit the goblin Batu, and he called them spirits, which means that Shalassa is the main water spirit among the orcs.
MasteR
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I'm not sure if it's worth creating a new thread for this, and it could be included here. Idea: Free cities of the East - a human city replacing the Orcs.
Army:
1 - 3 levels: redesigned creatures based on Haven,
4th level: Priests of Ilat
5th level: Pegasi
6th level: Thunderbirds
7th level: Air Dragons
Once, I suggested replacing the Orc models with Orcs from The Lord of the Rings. There are also dragons there - Nazgûl on dragons, Drogo. Or take Balrog. Unfortunately, this idea is not very feasible. At least for me.
Кампании для Heroes V 3.1 (Трилогия):
Пробуждение зла
Нашествие из Преисподней
Смена эпох
Скачать все кампании одним архивом: Яндекс.Диск Google.Диск
You can download the set of 3 Campaigns (English version) here
Одиночные сценарии Heroes V 3.1:
Незваные гости
Красный кристалл
Синий кристалл
Закат тьмы
Мультиплеерные карты для Heroes V 3.1:
Легендарная война
Сердце вулкана
Передел мира
Пробуждение зла
Нашествие из Преисподней
Смена эпох
Скачать все кампании одним архивом: Яндекс.Диск Google.Диск
You can download the set of 3 Campaigns (English version) here
Одиночные сценарии Heroes V 3.1:
Незваные гости
Красный кристалл
Синий кристалл
Закат тьмы
Мультиплеерные карты для Heroes V 3.1:
Легендарная война
Сердце вулкана
Передел мира
fktifzobr
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it's actually interesting; you can use a Nazgûl with a helmet and armor, or a Dark Champion.
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Balrog is very similar to a Dungeon Lord; you can level him up to 7, and Nazgûls to 6. Put them on a horse, repaint a Death Knight, and you'll have a dragon rider that's a bit weaker, but with more health and speed, and better initiative.
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I'm having trouble with the modified models; I'm still just learning the program, and I don't know how to make them move with the added pieces, or where to put the coloring.
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Balrog is very similar to a Dungeon Lord; you can level him up to 7, and Nazgûls to 6. Put them on a horse, repaint a Death Knight, and you'll have a dragon rider that's a bit weaker, but with more health and speed, and better initiative.
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I'm having trouble with the modified models; I'm still just learning the program, and I don't know how to make them move with the added pieces, or where to put the coloring.
psatkha
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I'm having trouble with the modified models. I'm still learning the program, and I don't know how to make them move with the added pieces or where to apply the textures.
What is the specific problem?
Sincerely, Psatkha
SRD
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Nargott was wrong – it's not about the dragons, and I agree that repainted models of the same dragon aren't very good. I just want to show people as they originally were, not what they became after the mess created by the archangels and the faceless ones. It's interesting how this race was reworked in the mod; I'll post screenshots later. I might even share the mod, but I don't know the author – maybe it's not right for me to post it here. Barlog looks like a cave lord and looks very pompous and cool, which is why I want him to be on the 7th level for the demons (check the first page, I posted a table there), and in Heroes 6, he's the highest level of Inferno. Giving water dragons to orcs is completely inappropriate – if the orcs are kept, you can leave them as they are or, for example: goblin, warmonger, executioner, shaman, centaur (something tells me that a half-human, half-horse will be stronger than a simple orc), wyvern, cyclops (you can also swap the last two).
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SRD
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Yes, and a Haven-style city would suit them better – just replace the buildings with angel wings, and that’s it.
Nargott
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Here are the promised screenshots; I especially liked the glow effects, but they are more suitable for the Elrath armies.