Posts from Mafia 101. Disputed Island Auto-translated

So, Gur is blocked by Narik. This means Gur is definitely: * Not Milton, because he can't be blocked. * Not Patient Zero, because he was actively involved. * Not Jen Lee, because her actions aren't being displayed. * Not Crowe, because he would send Narik away. Probably, since Nancy could have abused their abilities: * Not Baba Nyura, because she was working (Where is the second poll then? The old woman was grumbling (we'll find out next night) or the old woman is a Cop, meaning she's in isolation, and the second poll went to Lee. These are all interesting stories, but some percentages are adding up). * Not Doctor, because he was working. * Not Lucy, because she also seems to be involved (Actually, there's no real reason for Nancy to use infection on the first night, so 99% it's not Lucy). Bob? If Richie or Crowe redirected, it's possible, but unlikely. Levi tried, but isolation comes before blocking. So, he can't be eliminated. (There's also a Nancy option here, but the chances are too low, I don't believe it). Rick? Quite possible. Nancy? Why not. Ru? Easily. Cornelius? Nothing seems to prevent it. Kane? Also possible, so Gur is still quite likely to be Mafia. Richie? No factors against. Night Hunter? There's even a factor in favor, as the Mafia didn't kill, but it's still a long shot. I don't know the exact extent of the restrictions on revealing information about myself, so I'll just say it simply: I'm good and kind. Cop is in isolation. This means definitely: * Not Patient Zero, because he was active. * Not Lee, because her actions aren't being displayed. * Not Crowe, because he sent someone away. * Not Kane, because recruitment won't work when the target is in isolation. Probably, {remembering Nancy}: * Not the old woman. * Not Doctor. * Not Lucy. * Not Bob. Levi. Redirected, and all that. Maybe, but it's just... * Rick * Nancy * Ru * Cornelius * Richie * Milton * Night Hunter Doctor hit successfully. Although there's Nancy, and there are redirects (as many as 5). A little bit of armchair detective work. Rick didn't use his ability this night. And some hypotheses. The Mafia wasn't seen. Could it be pepper spray? Or maybe they hit Lee. They could have been sitting and waiting. It's stupid for the Mafia to recruit on the first night. Attacking also seems stupid, as it reveals evidence while you're alone. It's possible that Lee will stay quiet until she recruits someone. After all, the Mafia isn't obligated to kill. Regarding Kane being recruited. In the list of actions, there's a great option: attack with planted evidence. It's too tempting not to abuse it on the second night, so the ability will be available again on the fifth. Be prepared. In general, I'm inclined to think that it's more beneficial for Nancy to use the spy ability on the first night, but it could also have been first aid. I would say that the other townies, who have a choice between aggression and spying, chose spying. But that's not true anymore, since Lucy was infecting. I didn't immediately understand this paragraph, by the way, thanks for the explanation. Update:

Judging by the poll, only roles that can be recruited fit him.

Throw first aid then.

Wow! I believe, **Uran**, that you are a good person. You wrote such a great post. 1. I don't understand why everyone decided that the doctor successfully identified the culprit. Considering the amputation, I would rather say that this was a description of the infection and a burned-out characteristic or an ND (Neutral Defector). That is, with a high probability, one of us is slowly dying. 2. If a block hits a non-blockable target, the block will still be displayed in the newspaper. So, Gur and Ment can be the protector. 3. The old woman is not blockable. So, Ment and Gur could very well be her protectors.

Throw in some first aid then.

Should I post the poll results here? No, I don't want to make the game easier for the negativity. I'll just say that Yashchur probably made a mistake or is just trolling, because there are roles with protection against recruitment for you. Unless I made a mistake in the decryption.

1. I don't understand why everyone decided that the doctor successfully infected someone. Considering the amputation, I would say that this was more of a description of the infection and a burned trait or a neutral development.
That is, there is a high probability that one of us is slowly dying.

The newspaper says that the arm was amputated precisely to prevent the infection from spreading, and it also mentions that one of the attacked was saved.

2. If a block hits a non-blockable target, the block will still be displayed in the newspaper. So Gur and Ment could be the defender.
3. The old woman is not blockable. So Ment and Gur could very well be the ones blocking her.

I agree about Gur being blocked. But isolation is a bit different; the Master wrote that it affects Milton, and if that's the case, then, in theory, the old woman's poll can also be disrupted by isolation.

I'm still thinking about that unclear description. I don't want to believe that Lucy went around infecting random people.
Question for the Master:
When infecting, is the hint about the role given immediately upon the fact of the infection being displayed, or at the moment of death?

Considering the amputation, I would say that this was more of a description of the infection and a burned-out trait or ND.

The infection from Lucy is displayed as a fact. And yes, it is displayed as a fact, without any nickname.
Healing is displayed as a fact in case of success. Everything seems to be fine here.
But the infection from zero is paired with a kill. Doesn't this mean that in case of successful infection, a nickname should be assigned?

I will write about points 2 and 3 later.

I agree about the blocked Ghoul. But isolation is a slightly different thing. Master wrote that it affects Milton, and if that's the case, then theoretically, you can disrupt the old woman's poll with isolation.

Apparently, I missed that. I didn't know that Levi could disrupt the defense. In general, I'll learn so much new stuff about the set as the game progresses.
Master, can the old woman's poll be disrupted with isolation?

The infection from Lucy is displayed as a fact. And yes, it is displayed as a fact, without a nickname.
Healing is displayed as a fact in case of success. Everything seems to be fine here.
But the infection from Zero is paired with killing. Doesn't this mean that in case of successful infection, a nickname should be assigned?

I doubt it; usually, the nickname of the infected person is revealed only after their death. Otherwise, the doctor wouldn't have to think about who to go and heal at night. He would just go to the infected person - that's all. :)
But whether any hint is given about the infected person is also interesting to me. Maybe about their role? Or maybe a clue about the infected player?

By the way, I remembered that I wanted to discuss something in this thread – I wanted to learn how to deduce clues, since the topic is so relevant. So, don't bother the clue-deducers for now. Otherwise, they'll come up with some nonsense about hanging Yаshur. Let's focus on Ment instead.

Oh, now I'll have to become a clue-deducer... what have you done?

Yashur, everything is accessible there. I wouldn't describe a method that doesn't work.

When a player is infected, is there an immediate hint about their role displayed, or is it revealed upon their death?

There are no hints about the role or nicknames displayed during the initial infection. After death from infection, hints about the role, nicknames, and clues about the infecting player are revealed.

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Master, can the old woman's interrogation be disrupted by isolation?

It works the same way as with recruitment. If the old woman is isolated, the interrogation will proceed. If the target of the interrogation is isolated, it will not work. I hope this isn't too complicated to understand.

I don't understand what changed after the move?))
I thought we would temporarily move to another website.
But if we're talking about the topic at hand, I suggest we stick to the traditional approach:D

The master has clarified everything.

So, Gur could be Milton; I didn't know that a non-functional block would be displayed. Ment could have been him as well.

Gur could be a female character; I missed the fact that the phrase wasn't blocked in the ability description.
Ment could be a female character, as he was isolated.

I still believe that a successful heal was performed on the zero-level attacking action, regardless of whether it was an infection or a physical attack.

and let me clarify my vote - NNV

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Maybe the newcomers aren't aware of the tradition.

Suddenly, the newcomers are unaware of the established traditions.

Yashur, everything works there. I wouldn't describe a method that doesn't work.

I wouldn't be myself if I didn't suggest experimenting - instead of deleting and restoring posts, try moving the last visible post in the thread and the invisible tail to a newly created separate thread, fix the error, and move them back.
In general, Kosha, if you need creative moderation advice, feel free to ask :D

It's the same as with recruitment. If the old woman is isolated, the poll will pass. If the target of the poll is isolated, it won't work. I hope this isn't too difficult to understand.

Yes, I understand: if the isolation affects the target of the ND, then the ND fails, but if it affects a non-blocked executor, then it works.

Invisible posts cannot be dragged; you need to mark messages with a checkmark. By the way, does it seem to me, or has the forum really stopped lagging?