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Heroes of Might and Magic 3what are КВ and ДД?ДД is Dimension Door, also known as the Dimensional Door; further, Help can assist you; КВ has two possible interpretations: Book of Air or Book of Water — in games on SoD it's usually the former, since the latter is typically useless and mentioned in reports only if they want to emphasize how unlucky the contents of the Dragon Utopia were.
Here's a question: in Pandora's Box, which is supposed to grant all types of terrain, will it grant them without requiring Wisdom? And if so, can it be used? Also, "c) If any of your heroes receive a corresponding spell in Pandora's Box or a pyramid after visiting a scholar, or in a spellbook (even if that hero does not have enough Wisdom skill to learn the spell)." Will the scholar simply increase the skill level if the spell is already known?
Here's a question: in Pandora's Box, which is supposed to grant all types of terrain, will it grant the terrain without requiring Wisdom? And if so, can it be used?
It won't. But you can use scrolls with Earth spells of levels 4 and 5 without building a Guild Hall.
Wlk77 - who told you that it's allowed??????????. I think it wasn't wise to have your problems, and a player doesn't have the right to use scrolls of level 4 and 5, as the hero didn't actually receive Pandora.
The rules state that heroes specializing in magic (Solmyr, Aislinn, Loïn) can gain the right to use their specialization in this way. But I haven't heard that any hero can use them in this case.
AYMAN, what you consider unimportant is actually important. There are rules that it would be good to read before starting to argue =)
5. Prohibitions and Restrictions 5.1. Prohibited heroes: Sir Mulich. If this hero reaches level 3, he must be dismissed on the same day.
5.2.1. All 4th-level magic specialist heroes, as well as Tant (Raise Dead), can use their respective spells against an opponent in the following cases: a) if the corresponding level of the Guild of Mages (GM) has been built in any of the controlled Castles. If the required level of GM is not present in these Castles, then it is necessary to completely build all levels of the GM in any two Castles that you own. Or capture an opponent's Castle with the required GM already built (it doesn't matter how long the captured Castle will be under your control). It is not necessary to visit this Castle with a hero; b) find and visit the "Sanctuary of Magical Thoughts" with the Raise Dead spell with any hero; c) If any of your heroes are given the corresponding spell in the Pandora's Box, pyramid, after visiting the scholar, or in the spellbook (even if this hero does not have enough wisdom skill to learn this spell). Against neutral monsters, as well as against the computer (if it is present on the map), 4th-level magic specialists and Tant can use their respective spells without the above restrictions.
5.2.2. It is allowed to transfer level 4 spells and Raise Dead from specialists to other heroes, but trained heroes can only use them after fulfilling subparagraphs a, b, c of paragraph 5.2.1. That is, the transferred spells cannot be used against neutral monsters, against the computer, or against an opponent without fulfilling the above conditions.
Well, Valentin is right, we're talking about hero specialists of level 4.
And not about all heroes, or am I misunderstanding again? ))))))))))))
Yes, I forgot (didn't have time) to add that. So, it applies to all heroes, not just magic specialists.
5.8. It is forbidden to use spell scrolls of levels 4 and 5 without having the corresponding level of the Mage Guild (MG) built in any of your castles. If the starting castle does not have the corresponding level of MG, then you must comply with subparagraphs a, c of paragraph 5.2.
They won't allow it. But you can use scrolls with earth spells of levels 4 and 5 without building a Guild.
I didn't quite understand who remained in which positions.
According to the actual rules of Vol, only Specialists at level 4 can use (and only on "neutrals") their special magic, given to them at birth. The rest of the magic, not from "birth," above level 3, Specialists use on a general basis, as described in the Rules. That is, without fulfilling the conditions in the Rules, no Hero can use scrolls higher than level 3 (exceptions - Specialists at level 4 magic, if the found scroll matches the magic they have from "birth" and only on "neutrals"). Magic of level 3 and below can be used by all Heroes without any restrictions.
I didn't quite understand who remained in which positions.
According to the current rules of Volda, only Specialists at Level 4 can use their special Magic (and only on "neutrals") that they were born with. All other Magic, not from "birth," Specialists use on a general basis, as described in the Rules, up to Level 3. That is, without fulfilling the conditions in the Rules, no Hero can use Scrolls higher than Level 3 (exceptions are Specialists at Level 4 Magic, if the found Scroll matches the Magic they were born with, and only on "neutrals"). Magic of Level 3 and below can be used by all Heroes without any restrictions.
Everything is correct. And in the rules, one of the conditions PERMITTING the use of magic against an opponent by spellcasting Specialists of levels 3-4 and the use of scrolls by all heroes is taking Pandora with the corresponding magic, even if the hero does not have the wisdom to learn it. I highlighted it in red specifically.
Here, Valentin and Pasha agree with me. And I was saying that only magic specialists can do it. But in the case described above, they can't. That is, as I understand it, Kirr or Taz cannot use, for example, an explosion scroll if they have captured Pandora with all its lands, but their wisdom did not allow them to learn spells. That is, there is no wisdom in this case, so it's all for naught.
That's correct. And according to the rules, one of the conditions PERMITTING the use of magic against an opponent by spellcasters of levels 3-4 and the use of scrolls by all heroes is obtaining Pandora's Box with the corresponding magic, even if the hero does not have enough Wisdom to learn it. I highlighted it in red specifically.
Valentin, the key word for me here is "will give," because they didn't give magic in Pandora's Box (due to a lack of Wisdom). That is, I would consider it a violation of the rules by the player if he opens an Empty Pandora's Box (let him think that there was a 4th or 5th level spell), and then, with a supposedly "clear conscience," casts a Scroll of Armageddon or Explosion from his backpack... without fulfilling the requirements of the rules.
By the way, I have often encountered situations where I open Pandora's Box with an Expert in Wisdom, and it is empty. Someone might think that there was magic in it and will use scrolls, but there might not be any magic there initially.
In the morning, there was a reasonable post from VLC777, but it disappeared during the day.
5.8. It is forbidden to use spell scrolls of levels 4 and 5 without building the corresponding level of the Mage Guild (MG) in any of your castles. If the starting castle does not have the corresponding level of MG, then it is necessary to act according to subparagraphs a, c of paragraph 5.2.
The question is about the meaning of mentioning subparagraph "c" here. The idea is that if there is no tower, then you need to completely build 2 any towers. But this is subparagraph 5.2 "a". It is unclear why it is possible to gain the right to use a scroll by taking Pandora with a completely different hero, playing as a Stronghold/Swamp/Castle.
Valentin, the key word for me here is "will give," because they didn't give it in the Pandoric of Magic (due to the lack of Wisdom). That is, I would consider it a violation of the Rules by the Player if he opens an Empty Pandoric (let him think that there was a 4th or 5th Level), and then, with a supposedly "clear conscience," casts the Armageddon or Explosion Scroll that he has in his Backpack... without fulfilling the requirements of the Rules.
By the way, I have often encountered situations where I open a Pandoric with an Expert in Wisdom, and it is empty. Someone might think that there was Magic and will use Scrolls, but there might not be Magic there initially.
Pavel, you are once again beating around the bush. So, tell me, why do you think the rules say "even if there is no corresponding Wisdom"? Just for beauty? It's obvious that it can be used; this has been discussed for a long time. The problem is that if, when opening the Pandoric, the necessary Magic is suddenly not found, then, of course, a tech loss occurs. As a judge, you do not have the right to put your personal opinion above the current rules of the tournament. If you don't like the rules, change them, but for now, they are as they are.
If the Pandora's Box turned out to be empty when opened by a hero with maximum Wisdom, it means the hero already knows all the spells that were inside.
