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Can anyone give me a specific answer to my specific question!!!!!

Why are you so opposed to creating new clans???
If you think they won't be viable, they'll disband on their own soon enough. But what if they are??

No one is against creating new clans. We are against creating "empty" clans. We are against every newcomer, as soon as they appear on the portal, creating their own clan - and then disappearing forever after 2-3 visits. This trend is already visible... and quite clearly. This is precisely why a number of restrictions will be introduced - those who REALLY need it will understand and fulfill the conditions... Besides, they are not excessive and not even too complicated. Those who WANT TO will create one. That's all there is to it.

I hope the answer is clear... please refrain from asking similar questions again...

Let's try to bring this idea to completion after all. I have raised the issue of accepting or rejecting the "Clans Regulations" with the Creator; he suggested that I create a consolidated list of grievances and suggestions, taking into account which adjustments will be made to the old regulations and clan proposals. Regarding this topic, I ask that leaders of existing Clans and their official deputies, as well as all members of the League of Clan Masters (LCM), express their opinions. The views of these people will be considered first in this list. Also, I will definitely consider and welcome constructive feedback from ordinary clan members and non-clan forum users. As a reference point, please take another look at the Regulations created by Raper /post/123015/. In principle, this regulation already reflects all the shortcomings of the previous one, but I want you to pay attention to the numbers and dates mentioned in it.

As the leader of the Homo Homini clan, I would like to share my suggestions and concerns (based on Raper's regulations):
1. Regarding the requirements for a person registering a clan: in addition to the existing criteria, there should be a positive rating of 2, and 30 posts on the forum. (These limits do not apply to other members of the clan).
2. If the clan leader is inactive for more than 6 months, the clan will be disbanded. However, if the leader changes (with no objections from the former leader and with the consent of at least 2/3 of the clan members, with a minimum of 4 active participants), the clan may continue its activities. If 70% of the clan members do not appear on the forum within 6 months without giving reasons, the clan will be disbanded.
3. If the number of clan members is less than 4 active forum users, the clan will have 2 months to recruit new members. If, after this period, the number of active members remains less than 4, the clan will be disbanded.
4. Several people (2 for redundancy) should monitor all deadlines, dates, and generally the requirements for a potential leader. I would like these people to be part of the LCM. The procedure could be as follows: a person gathers a team (minimum 4 people), creates an appropriate representative topic, and then these representatives from the LCM must check whether the potential clan leader meets all the requirements and assess all other attributes of the clan. If they meet the requirements, then either directly in the clan's topic, write their conclusion that it was reviewed by the Creator, or through personal messages, inform the Creator and the clan leader about the results of their assessment, and only then, if the clan passes the assessment, the clan leader writes to the Creator requesting registration of his clan.

Let's quickly create a list of wishes and concerns so that we don't abandon this topic again and the Creator often appears on the forum, and finally correct the old Clans Regulations.

So, let's begin: 1. A Clan is a combat/analytical team [Go to section] of like-minded people (players) - what is meant by "analytics"? What should the Clan analyze? 2. A Clan must have a Clan Leader. Requirements for the leader: [Go to requirements] · Any active registered HeroesWorld user with a positive morale balance of at least two "positive ticks" can create a Clan. After recruiting 4 active members (including the Leader), the Clan is registered. · The concept of "Active Forum Member" is introduced. An active member is a leader who must make at least 30 posts over the past 2 months. And only after 2 months will he be able to register his Clan! · The Leader must state the Goal of this Clan!!! Will it be a "COMBAT" or "ANALYTICAL" association? Morale balance - at least three. I'll explain why - I only got the last two ticks, literally, in two weeks, let alone the first two. Number of posts - at least 50 (even 100), because it's too easy to write 30 posts - two posts in polls like "which beast is better, worse" and that's it. Or introduce control over the quality of posts... but who will do that? It's too complicated. Set the deadline not in two months, but three or four. The concept of "Active Member" is absolutely unnecessary. 3. Clan composition: from 4 members. Each member must leave at least 20 posts on the forum and have a positive morale. I AGREE. 4. If the Clan Leader is inactive for more than 5 months, the Clan will be disbanded. However, in the event of a change of Leader (in the absence of objections from the previous leader and with the consent of at least 2/3 of the Clan members, with a minimum of 4 active members), the Clan may continue to function. If 70% of the Clan members do not appear on the forum for 2-3 months without giving reasons, the Clan will be disbanded. I AGREE with Adelaide's option. 5. If the Clan does not participate in the HW portal Tournaments (if the Clan is "COMBAT"), for 5 months, then the Clan is considered inactive and will also be disbanded. I AGREE. 6. In the event of receiving a third warning, the Clan is disbanded, and its Leader is deprived of the right to register Clans for a period of 7 months. After 7 months, the former Clan Leader has the right to submit a request to the LZMС to restore his right to register Clans. · The LZMС should decide whether a post is a violation and how serious it is for issuing a warning to the Clan. Based on the results of the meeting, a resolution may be adopted, either with a recommendation to apologize or a trial period, or it may be more serious, up to issuing a warning to the Clan. I think there should be 10 warnings, disbandment for 6 months. I don't know about the LZMС... 7. The representative topic should contain the Clan's charter. · Main ideological provisions. Plagiarism (using materials from other Clans) is punishable by issuing a warning to the Clan. · The representative topic may contain the Clan's emblem or other Clan attributes, as well as information about the Clan's achievements and its members. I AGREE. 8. Several people (2 for interchangeability) should monitor all deadlines, dates, and in general, the requirements for the potential leader. I would like these people to be part of the LZMС. I see the procedure as follows: a person gathers a team (min 4 people), properly оформляет the representative topic, and then these representatives of the LZMС should check whether the potential Clan leader meets all the requirements and all the other attributes of the Clan. If he meets them, then either write his conclusion directly in the Clan topic, that he was seen by the Creator, or by means of personal messages, inform the Creator and the Clan leader about the results of his assessment, and only then the Clan leader, if his Clan has passed the assessment, writes to the Creator with a request to register his Clan. I AGREE. A small addition: I hope that all this will be implemented and the LZMС will start working, because so far it is only a set of letters, but not an organization (which is why the Clan left) ;)

So, let's start:
1. A Clan is a combat/analytical team of like-minded people (players) - what is meant by "analytical"? What should the Clan analyze?

2. A Clan must have a Clan Leader. Requirements for the leader: [Go to requirements]

5. “REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CLAN LEADER ON HeroesWorld”

· Any active registered HeroesWorld user with a positive morale balance of at least two “positive ticks” can create a Clan. After recruiting 4 active members (including the Leader), the Clan is registered.
· The concept of an “Active Forum Member” is introduced. An active member is a leader who must score at least 30 posts over the past 2 months. And only after 2 months will he be able to register his Clan!
· The Leader must declare the Goal of this Clan!!! Will it be a "COMBAT" or "ANALYTICAL" association.

Morale balance - at least three. I'll explain why - I only earned the last two ticks literally in two weeks, let alone the first two. Number of posts - at least 50 (even 100), because it's too easy to write 30 posts - two posts in polls like "which beast is better, worse" and that's it. Or introduce control over the quality of posts... but who will do that? It's too complicated. Set the deadline not in two months, but three or four.
The concept of "Active Member" is absolutely unnecessary.

3. Clan composition: from 4 members. Each member must leave at least 20 posts on the forum and have a positive morale.
I AGREE.

4. If the Clan Leader is inactive for more than 5 months, the Clan is disbanded. However, in the event of a change of Leader (in the absence of objections from the previous leader and with the consent of at least 2/3 of the Clan members, with a minimum of 4 active members), the Clan may continue to function. If 70% of the Clan members do not appear on the forum for 2-3 months without giving reasons, the Clan is disbanded.
I AGREE with Adelaide's option.

5. If the Clan does not participate in the HW portal Tournaments (if the Clan is "COMBAT"), for 5 months, then the Clan is considered inactive and will also be disbanded.
I AGREE.

6. In the event of receiving a third warning, the Clan is disbanded, and its Leader is deprived of the right to register Clans for a period of 7 months. After 7 months, the former Clan Leader has the right to submit a request to the LZMС to restore his right to register a Clan.
· The LZMС should decide whether a post is a violation and how serious it is for issuing a warning to the Clan. Based on the results of the meeting, a resolution may be adopted either with a recommendation to apologize or a trial period, or it may be more serious, up to issuing a warning to the Clan.

I think there should be 10 warnings, disbandment for 6 months. I don't know about the LZMС...

7. The representative topic should contain the Clan's charter.
· Main ideological provisions. Plagiarism (using materials from other Clans) is punishable by issuing a warning to the Clan.
· The representative topic may contain the Clan's emblem or other Clan attributes, as well as information about the Clan's achievements and its members.
I AGREE.

8. Several people (2 for interchangeability) should monitor all deadlines, dates, and generally the requirements for the potential leader. I would like these people to be part of the LZMС. I see the procedure as follows: a person recruits a team (min 4 people), properly оформляет the representative topic, and then these representatives of the LZMС should see whether the potential Clan leader meets all the requirements and all the other attributes of the Clan. If he meets them, then either write his conclusion directly in the Clan topic, that he saw the Creator, or by means of private messages, bring the results of his assessment to the Creator and the Clan leader, and only then, if the Clan passes the assessment, the Clan leader writes to the Creator with a request to register his Clan.
I AGREE.

A small addition: I hope that all this will be implemented and the LZMС will start working, because so far it is only a combination of letters, but not an organization (which is why the Clan left) ;)

The ice has broken, but I want to add a couple of my thoughts.
You reasoned well, but I disagree with some things, so I'll start.

So, a positive morale is one thing that used to be a stumbling block, I wouldn't focus on it. For example, a large negative morale can also characterize a player well. I have no objections to the post counter, 30 is enough, but more is not serious, because some earn their posts not just with some discussions, but with posts in Tournaments, so this issue needs to be refined.

Secondly, you have too long a waiting period for registration, if a person is serious and has gathered his team, then such a period is a mess.

Next, the absence of a leader, here you should give the deputy the same powers as the leader, just in case something happens, because everyone walks under God (I'm not talking about the Clan of Gods).

Further, Clan remarks, what is this nonsense? After all, each member bears his own cross for his own words, and Clan remarks are an overkill, few will put anything there, Clans are already breathing down each other's necks. In principle, this point should be removed to avoid problems in the future (because smartasses will be found).

Regarding the league supervisors. HM, guys, the league issue has not been resolved yet! You are again imposing your opinion. I think the league should decide on issues related to the Clans that have joined it. And new Clans should be under the supervision of Moderators. If a Clan does not meet the rules, the Moderator will write that something is wrong and that's it, otherwise what you proposed is an overreach.

And, frankly, I don't understand, during the existence of HW, there have not been one-day Clans, so I am, as always, puzzled by what you are trying to prove to whom?

You propose to write a review on the representative topic, which means adding unnecessary clutter to it, I think this point is also superfluous..

P.S. I ask you not to delete or move my post, as it is directly related to this topic and I suggest that everyone express their opinion regarding the Know-how.

must have at least 30 posts in the last 2 months

AGREE.

Balance of Battle Points - at least three. I'll explain why - I only got the last two birds, literally, in two weeks, let alone the first two.

DISAGREE.

Note: Draco, don't judge everyone by yourself, not everyone will get 30 posts in a short time like you, maybe some people are here for the tournaments, so that's a couple of posts per tournament... The same goes for Battle Points, I think it's not a good indicator for creating a clan...

And if you want to make clan creation stricter, increase the minimum number of members to 5, 6 people...

P.S. Nemizida is basically right...

2 Dragons The ten-round tournament named after Van Cunningham is a project by LZMS. And don't pretend to be someone you're not – you're an intelligent person, and it won't be possible to say "I don't know what this LZMS did." Regarding the database, I fully support your suggestion. As for the 10 remarks, are you serious? So, someone can relentlessly spam the forum, and the rest will just stand by and gratefully absorb it? Three remarks are more than enough. They should just have a "shelf life" equal to the disqualification period (e.g., 7 months). P.S. Next time, I will delete a post that significantly differs in font size. No offense. It's very uncomfortable for the eyes. And in internet language, this is called "shouting," and why do we need shouting...?

Everything below is my opinion:
Regarding point 4, about the overseers from the League of Laws and Inter-Clan Council (LZMС): the issue of the League has not yet been resolved!

The issue of the League has not yet been resolved!

However, we can consider the registration deadlines:
If we increase the registration period, for example, to a month from the date of foundation (introducing the concept of an unregistered clan), we can observe how the clan behaves during that month and also see the activity of its members. After a month of existence, the clan can become Registered if it does not fall apart. I think the issue of registration should be considered not by the LZMС, but by the coordinators...

Regarding the number of complaints: I don't think we should rely on this either, because any forum user can issue a complaint for some minor offense, such as "spamming in a topic," thereby hindering the creation of a clan...

If 70% of the clan members do not appear on the forum for 2-3 months without giving a reason, the clan will be disbanded.

In my opinion, the minimum number of people in a clan is 4. So: If less than 4 members of the clan do not appear on the forum for 2-3 months without giving a reason, the clan will be disbanded.

Each member must leave at least 20 posts on the forum and have a positive morale.

I agree that this needs to be carefully considered... A good example is Perpolken; I see that he doesn't write very much...

· The representative topic must contain the clan's charter.

The question is - why? If the clan adheres to the rules of the portal, why is a charter needed? We shouldn't force everyone to conform.

· If the clan is "ANALYTICAL," then from time to time (approximately once every 1-2 months), its work (the results of its activities) will be checked - if such work is not observed, the clan will be disbanded as unnecessary!

I think this is not a good idea. In the future, if a clan of mapmakers appears, this will have a significant impact. We cannot force creative people; otherwise, in this case, we will get a bunch of second-rate maps...
Something like that... I may add something in the future.

2 Qwerty
League of Laws and Inter-Clan Council, not Factory of Tournaments
I don't think organizing tournaments is part of the League's goals...

Well done, the feedback is spot on, except for the charter. In my opinion, the issue is that there aren't just two Clans, and I hope their numbers will grow even after (unnecessary) improvements. And if we don't establish a charter, we should at least promote some kind of ideology to differentiate ourselves in some way; otherwise, the composition and banners don't provide a clear distinction! And here's another point: I recommend specifying the exact responsibilities of the analysts and what benefits or advantages they have, or at least something about their scope of work, because I don't quite understand it.

To systematize what has been said:
1."Some earn their positions not just through some discussions, but through posts in the tournament", "A good example is Perpolken, I see he doesn't write very much..." - these are objections regarding the number of messages. From this comes the question - why would a person who is a good/excellent tournament player need a clan? Is this person (not referring to Perpolken personally) interested in clans at all? I doubt it... The game takes up quite a bit of time and effort, and imagine if they also had to engage in administrative activities...
However, the question of the number of messages is not fundamental.

2.I agree on the registration period: two months is too many. "If the registration period is increased, for example, to one month from the date of foundation (introduce the concept of an unregistered clan), then we can fully see how a clan will behave during the month and the activity of its members can be seen. After a month of existence, a clan can become Registered if it doesn't fall apart." - I agree with SoulDrinker

3.Regarding granting the leader's powers to the deputy (as I understand it, this refers to moderation), I also agree.

4.The issue of warnings is controversial.
"Next, clan warnings—what is this nonsense? After all, each member carries their own cross for their own words, and clan warnings are overkill; few people there will correct anything, clans here are already barely hanging on. In principle, this point should be crossed out to avoid problems in the future (because smart-asses will be found)."
"Regarding 10 warnings. Are you serious? Meaning someone will spam the forum with impunity, and the rest will stand and gratefully absorb it? 3 warnings are just right. They should simply have an 'expiration date' equal to the disqualification period (7 months, for example)."
The conclusion is: we need to precisely determine what warnings are given for. It cannot be the activities of clan members, since they have their own warnings. It turns out they are given for the activities of the clan. But what clan activity can be recognized as harmful to the forum? Give an example. I am struggling, because there have been no such cases.
Furthermore, once we decide what warnings are given for — and this is a fundamental question (punishment cannot exist without a crime) — we can decide on the number. Two options:
- 10 warnings - an analogy with a user (and here warnings are counted regardless of who gave them or for what violation, i.e., if I, for example, cursed in the chat and 10 people gave me warnings - ban, regardless of it being one violation).
- 3 warnings - each warning is valid for 7 months (I wonder why 7?). If a clan commits a violation within 7 months, the previous warning is declared "non-removable", and the new one lasts for 7 months, and so on. If a clan does not commit a violation, the warning is removed after the term expires (7 months). I suggest 6 months instead. And, I hope, Qwerty, is this what you meant by "expiration date"?

5."In my opinion, the minimum number of people in a clan is 4. So: If fewer than 4 clan members appear on the forum within 2-3 months without stating the reasons - the clan is disbanded." I agree. Very reasonable.

6."Regarding league overseers. HM guys, the issue of the league has not been resolved yet! You are imposing your opinion again. I think the league should decide issues related to the clans that have joined it. And new clans should be under the guardianship of the Mods. If a clan does not comply with the rules, the mod will write that something or other is not done correctly and that's it, no question, but what you proposed is, to put it mildly, going too far."
"I think the issue of registration should be considered by coordinators, not the LZMS..."
Before writing this, it wouldn't hurt to check which clans the moderators and administrators belong to... Let's check:
- Pandora - Из многих единое;
- Lu41k - Order of the Phoenix;
- Night - Из многих единое;
- Ley - Order of the Phoenix;
- Qwerty - Order of the Phoenix;
- Kamikaze - Из многих единое;
- Alex Ghost - Человек человеку;
- Hedgehog in the Fog - no clan;
- Inquisitor - Haven;
- Magnus - no clan;
- Supreme - Dark Templars;
- LotR - Storm team;
- Predvestnik - Человек человеку;
- Alex_soldier - no clan;
- Nowizard - Из многих единое;
- Necronix - Storm team;
- Adelaide - Человек человеку;
- Xaker - Soul Catchers;
- VDV_forever - Order of the Phoenix.
Impressive, isn't it. I trust these people at least because they are primarily moderators and administrators (I believe that the work is more important to them), and then members of clans; I believe that the good of the forum is more important to them than local (clan) benefits. Do you trust them?
From here comes the "edge" question (oh, how I don't want to ask it...): who do you trust with control: the moderators and administrators, whose decision you will likely be unable to appeal, or the LZMS, where you will be on equal footing with these moderators, and whose decision you can appeal?... I am asking this question to myself as well :)\br>
Qwerty, I'm not pretending, I really don't know. This is partially my fault. But... where is the promotion of the LZMS brand? Why isn't it written in the most visible place that such-and-such a tournament is organized with the participation of LZMS?

"The League of Laws-Interclan Council is not a Factory of Tournaments
In my opinion, the organization of tournaments is not part of the league's goals..." - strange, it seems to me the opposite, that is exactly what the league should do, but only for clans.

We need to minimize our wishes, because "the further into the forest, the thicker the partisans" — we've already started talking about clan-related remarks, in which I see no practical value. If an individual violates HeroesWorld rules, the ban system kicks in; I think this point is clear and logical.
Reper, in his position, has covered all the key essential points. Let's not complicate things or drag out the resolution of this issue. Instead, let's clearly and concisely tell people: to register a clan, one must:............, a clan is disbanded if:.......... Otherwise, it's hard for me to pick out the significant information needed for the final list from among your posts.
For now, I am providing a consolidated list. I am using average numerical data since we will not reach a consensus or unanimous opinion. I am taking the opinions of the clans "Order of the Phoenix" and "E Pluribus Unum" from Reper's position, the link to which I provided above. (If your opinion on this matter has changed, please correct me.)
1. To register a clan:
- A person must have been registered on HeroesWorld for 2 months.
- They must have 50 posts and 2 positive reputation points (for those who want to argue about this, I'll explain: a clan leader is not just a forum member or a player; they are a socially active person (within HeroesWorld), they must be well-known and respected on the forum. It's clear that posts can be padded, but in cases of malicious padding, going overboard, or non-informative posts, we have our vigilant moderators).
- There should be no requirements for clan members (each clan has its own "kitchen": hierarchy, trial periods, etc. Let each leader decide what their clanmates will be like. And Draco is not entirely right about champion players; Perpolken is not outside clans because he is opposed to the idea of clans — just look at the stellar lineup of the Order of the Phoenix, Homi Homini, Lord Vampyr alone speaks volumes!)
2. A clan should be disbanded if 2/3 of its members have not appeared on the forum for 4 months, if its numerical strength is less than 4 people for 2 months, and if the clan is left without a leader and no replacement is found within 2 months.

I want to clarify regarding the people who will monitor compliance with the rules: the word "overseers" is inapplicable. They will simply be executors who will check the data against the template of clan registration requirements and see whether the requirements are met or not. There is no personal initiative here, no recommendations — just a dry "yes" or "no". If "no", they can explain that a certain requirement does not meet the established norm. As for the LZMS, I just suggested it; I am not insisting. It's just that I personally have more trust in forum members who are on the LZMS council. It could be someone else — I would suggest Reper, since he "cares deeply" about the clan movement. It was suggested that coordinators monitor this, but alas, I'm afraid I personally cannot handle it (I am involved in tournament activities, lead a clan, and do coordinator work... I simply don't have enough time, energy, and perseverance to fulfill any more duties). I won't say anything about VDV and Hacker; if they volunteer, that would be great. As for moderators, their personal consent is also needed, since moderators are not just people with a green nickname — they have their own workload, and this monitoring might be a burden. But in any case, whoever these people are, they must first and foremost be trusted and respected by the forum members.

Let's stick with three bird icons. Draco is right. Regarding the feedback: I insist that this feedback is directed at clan members. Let me explain my position. The clan MUST be responsible for its members. The clan leader should think carefully before accepting someone into the clan. This is even more important when organizing events, let's say, a "mini-flash mob," where the clan coordinates and begins to perform mass actions. In this case, at most 1-2 members will receive feedback, and that's it. But if this feedback starts to affect the clan's overall standing, that's a more serious issue. Regarding the 7-month period, I'm not insisting. It can be 6 months, or even 4. But definitely not less than 3. Regarding tournament players, Adelaide is right. And the devastating impact that the charming Ta, Kotoraya had is further proof of this. Regarding analytical work: We have Mugais in our clan. He doesn't play in tournaments, but he has his own research in the field of updates and other related topics. We have AmberSoler in our clan, who plays here relatively rarely, but his contribution to the third Heroes game is invaluable, I think you'll agree! We have... hmm... me. I write about the second Heroes game and also try to translate foreign materials. Judging by the users' reactions, it has also been useful to someone. And then there are the map creators! This is what I call analytical work. However, I'm not insisting on this either. For me, the two key points are Draco's proposal for three leader bird icons and the inclusion of member feedback in the clan's overall standing.

Then, several questions arise immediately: 1. How exactly will the warnings be taken into account? Does any member receive 3 (10) warnings and the Clan is disbanded? Or does the leader receive that many warnings? In that case, we should be talking about bans (there are three banned members - the Clan is disbanded), but even that is unlikely. 2. Warnings are given for any reason or no reason at all. Which of them will be taken into account? Those related to Clan activities? How can they be found? It's inefficient. Hence: 3. Why should the leader be responsible for what a Clan member says in other topics that are not related to the Clan section? Should the leader control his Clan members? He shouldn't. Otherwise, it will be a restriction of freedom for forum users - and who would want to join Clans? Hmm, I don't want to offend anyone, and please take this calmly; after all, it's a forgotten, past issue, but as an example, I'll mention that a user with the nickname Vanechka, who is currently a member of the "Order of the Phoenix" Clan, violated ethical standards. I have no doubt that this user brings a lot of benefit to the Clan (moreover, I am sure that he is an excellent player and deck builder), however... So, Qwerty, I quote: "The Clan leader should think before accepting someone into the Clan"; "The Clan MUST be responsible for its members." What do you say? I say that you couldn't know how a person will behave, and I can't know it, and no one can know it. I take a person, checking his gaming and creative qualities. And that's it. The rest is revealed later... In general, I'm getting at the fact that a person's actions are his personal responsibility, and he should be personally responsible for them. But the Clan should not be punished; there are enough good people in it. Paraphrasing some people: "Why should we all educate someone?" Once again, please don't be offended. This is just an example. In fact, let's talk specifically about the warnings: if they are needed, then in what form? for what violations? who takes them into account? where are they reflected? for what period? can they be removed? etc. And all of this is a dilemma. I don't even know what to suggest.

It's quite simple here. Only remarks from a certain inter-clan body should be taken into account, and that's it... All interested parties gather, listen to both sides, the accusation and the defense, then the defense can propose a settlement – apologies, post corrections, or a ban, etc. If that is sufficient, the incident is resolved ("resolved," a quote from Mayakovsky). If a remark is issued by a majority vote, then that's how it will be. There will be a hearing in the Vanechka case – the clan will present at least one lawyer. If we can reach an agreement, there will be no remark. If we can't, my clan will receive a remark. Any remark should have an "expiration date," which, as I think, should coincide with the disqualification period. And I, of course, am responsible for the actions of my clan members.

I admit, I chose a bad example... I should have picked something else or avoided being too specific. Oh well, we're still young and inexperienced... And for everyone, perhaps (in large, bold letters): READ THE POSTS CAREFULLY!!! So, firstly, what is this inter-Clan body? If you mean the LZMС, then it is currently facing significant opposition and its influence is limited to the Clans that have joined it. As long as there are opponents of the league, the LZMС cannot perform any administrative functions in relation to all Clans. As a way to overcome these disagreements, we should consider officially legalizing (recognizing) the LZMС at the site administration level (i.e., by the Creator) through a new Clans Regulation, which is probably what is happening. The other body, I suspect, could be a council of Clan leaders, which would be the most optimal option. On the other hand, I understand that it will differ little from the LZMС. For those who are not paying attention, I will clarify - for example, and as an alternative, I named the body this way; there is no talk of creating a council. Secondly, all sorts of trials, courts, lawyers, and the like will only lead to arguments. Getting rid of this problem lies in creating a new section, which will be accessible to Clan leaders (for example, if the inter-Clan body is a council of leaders) or Clan representatives (if it is the LZMС), where a calm discussion is possible. As for lawyers and prosecutors, if a leader is responsible for a Clan, then they are also responsible in court. This is also a fairly optimal option, but, I repeat, it requires creating a section. Thirdly, I agree with the expiration date. Fourthly (regarding everything else), read the first paragraph. In conclusion: the second and third paragraphs of the post, as far as I remember, have already been discussed on the forum in relation to the LZMС. I think it's time to bring them up again. And only after solving these two problems - legalizing the inter-Clan body and creating a section - can we talk about the other points, in my opinion. However, it is not final.

There will be an investigation into the Vanechka case – the clan will provide at least one lawyer. If we can reach an agreement, there won't be a penalty. If we can't, my clan will receive a penalty.
Any penalty should have an "expiration date," which, in my opinion, should coincide with the disqualification period.
And I, of course, am responsible for the actions of my clan members.

And so, new positions are appearing:(. Why complicate things? The perpetrator should be responsible for their actions, but the clan shouldn't suffer!
IMHO, it's nonsense that the entire clan should be penalized because of one person. If you want order, you need to achieve it in a different way!