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#756
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well, in Dota, I was also a strong player at times.

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#757
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This is a small problem, and I don't deny that I'm also part of it. For example, spending a long time playing turn-based games with people tires me out a lot.
Well, I'm against games similar to Heroes for the same reason. Personally, I would play RTS games, MMOs, RPGs, but again, such a relaxed, non-competitive gameplay probably won't appeal to many.
It's not necessary to play for 15 minutes and then stop, but you can set aside a certain amount of time for it and continue playing even if someone from the group drops out for some reason.
I agree with that, of course, but I immediately disliked these kinds of games, so I probably won't be able to help you with that.

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#758
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However, communication in such games is necessary; at least, it sometimes helps.
Besides pings on the mini-map, nothing else is needed.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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#759
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Morning
Nothing is needed except pings on the mini-map.
Amen, bro! Voice chat is only needed to tell stories about your romantic adventures with close relatives of your esteemed comrades.
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Personally, I would enjoy playing RTS games, MMOs, or RPGs, but again, such a relaxed, non-competitive gameplay probably wouldn't appeal to many.
Non-competitive is ideal. As for relaxed, well, at least sometimes there needs to be some excitement, otherwise, what's the point of playing?
 

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#761
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rts, mmo, rpg
Which ones?
I agree with that, of course, but I just didn't like those games right away, so I probably won't be able to help you much here.
Maybe you just haven't given them a chance... And in general, if I played mostly solo instead of in a duo, I would have quit this genre a long time ago.

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Regarding a relaxed experience – well, at least sometimes it needs to be intense, otherwise, what's the point of playing?
I simply don't subconsciously consider any PvE content as "intense," no matter how challenging it may be, while PvP in such games isn't at the same active level as in the games suggested by Revant.
Which ones?
Any of them. Right now, I just typed rts/arpg/mmo into the Google search bar (although the latter is to a lesser extent), and in 50% of the results on the page, I've either played or watched with a positive impression.
Maybe you just haven't given them a proper chance... And in general, if I played most of the time solo instead of in a duo, I would have dropped this genre a long time ago.
I don't know, many of my real-life friends tried to get me into them at one time, I watched streams and videos, but somehow it doesn't even remotely captivate me.

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Well, streams are different; you can't tell if you'll like a game just by watching them, especially if you're going to play with someone else, not alone.
Anything. I just typed rts/arpg/mmo into the Google search bar (although the latter is less relevant), and in 50% of the results on the first page, I either played or watched the game and had a positive impression.
Well, the titles don't really tell me much. I played Generals and a bit of the first StarCraft online for a while, but I don't think they've stood the test of time. And it's not just the specific games, but the genre itself. Playing against bots is uninteresting, and playing against each other requires roughly equal skill levels; otherwise, every game will end the same way, and after a couple of matches, it gets boring. And again, it's Hamachi, Rangers, and all that, unless you play the second StarCraft (which is now free, I think) or something else that's officially supported (but I don't know of any) and doesn't require spending money. I won't say anything about ARPGs – I only played D2, D3, Titan Quest, and half an hour of PoE online, but I'm not eager to try something similar because even playing in pairs was quite challenging the last few times. I'm interested to hear your opinion on MMOs and which ones are still relevant, especially for a group.
Non-competitive – that's ideal.
What do you mean?

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because in recent times, even playing with two people was quite challenging.
What exactly was challenging? Was it due to the reasons mentioned above, simply because it wasn't interesting, or something else?
I'd be interested to hear your opinion on MMOs and which ones are still relevant, especially for a group.
I think I mentioned to you before that there aren't any good ones right now. I just brought it up here too, because it was mentioned in the thread earlier, and I wouldn't mind playing them if something decent has come out recently. But I can't recommend anything myself.
Well, streams are different; you can't tell if you'll like it from them, especially if you're playing with someone else and not alone.
People also said the same thing about shooters))) usually, even a superficial impression doesn't mislead me.

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What exactly is the problem? Is it due to the reasons mentioned above, because it's simply not interesting, or is it something else?
Well, you grind mobs with two buttons for 60 minutes, and then another 180. It's okay to do this yourself, but if you're playing with someone, you need to maintain focus on the game (you wouldn't alt-tab while others are playing), and I personally experience psychological fatigue from this kind of process. MMOs seem to be better in this regard, by the way; maybe it's because of the perception of the engine, or maybe it's just because I haven't played them in a long time. It's hard to say.
People also told me the same thing about shooters))) I'm usually not even fooled by a superficial impression.
Even shooters are different. For example, I never liked Counter-Strike/Half-Life, and I wasn't interested in other shooters, but I liked Overwatch (although I still prefer mobas).

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Well, you grind mobs with two buttons for 60 minutes, and then another 180. It's okay to do this yourself, but if you're playing with someone, you need to keep your attention on the game (you wouldn't alt-tab while the others are playing), and personally, I get psychologically tired of this kind of process. For some reason, it's a bit better with MMOs, by the way; maybe it's the perception of the engine, or maybe it's just that I haven't played them in a long time. It's hard to say.
Yeah, I guess it's like they say, different strokes for different folks. (I'm completely losing it, I'm already forgetting words.) Because after MMOs, I mostly played small groups of 2-3 people in grinding games, and it was quite enjoyable.
Even shooters are different. For example, I never liked Counter-Strike/Half-Life, and I wasn't interested in other shooters, but I liked Overwatch (although I still prefer grinding games).
Maybe. Although, I personally haven't had similar exceptions. However, I just remembered that I had a good time playing Warframe or something like that. Anyway, I'm having a nice discussion here, considering that I have poorly healed eyes and a barely functioning laptop, making me the most useless player :smile20: Okay, if you do decide to play and don't want to drag along just one miserable noob, call me. But I don't want to make any promises.

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Wow, look at all these hardcore gamers, they were playing in groups. Maybe someone even played with Tox?
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Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#769
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I once played against him in HotS (Heroes of the Storm), or maybe it was just someone with the same nickname.
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Yeah, that was a while ago... I haven't played with anyone regularly since around 2014, and the last time I had any contact with anyone other than family was when I created a thread on the Heroes of Might and Magic forum in 2016.

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