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Rick, Doctor, and Negatives

Rick would already be eliminated because both special abilities and the Neutral Dungeon would be destroyed. The Doctor and "patients" are not affected by infection. On the Lich, the infection is not displayed. That leaves Rogue or Maniac.

For informational purposes, you should ban those who are almost not active in the topic.

By the way, I disagree. Banning inactive players just means they'll be replaced, and no one will say anything about it.

Rick would already be dead, as both his special abilities and his neutral ability would be gone. The Doctor and the "patients" are not infected. The infection is not visible on Lee. That leaves Rook or the maniac.

We need to clarify this with the game master. Does death from infection occur when there are no available special abilities or neutral abilities to remove, or as soon as the last legal pair disappears? In other words, will Rick, who has 2 special abilities, a neutral ability, and an ultimate ability (i.e., 2 neutral abilities), survive after 2 nights of infection?

Regarding the Doctor and the first Mafia member, I'm confused; it seems like Lyuska couldn't have claimed them.

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What joy does Jack get from the fact that the Cop locked himself? The town is guaranteed to lose a vote.
At least until the recruitment, the move would definitely be questionable.

NNV.

We need to clarify this with the game master. Does death from infection occur when there are no available abilities or skills to remove the infection, or as soon as the last legal pair is gone? In other words, will Rick, who has 2 abilities, 2 skills, and an ultimate ability (meaning 2 skills), survive after 2 nights of infection?

Actually, yes, I was somehow sure it would follow the first option.

We seem to have a lot of mages now :( Lyuska, who are you playing as, you rascal?

For those who are not aware: I don't remember when we last practiced a blocking strategy that favors white pieces, yet every newcomer considers it their duty to suggest it. No, guys, I'm just a cute little thing.
And I don't understand the city players who have become maniacs. We currently have only about five negative results, and there were three on the first night. Guys and ladies, what's so bad about that?

what about the clue, was someone digging there?
well, I found this navigator, but all the geography except for Finland is fictional.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D1%87%D1%91%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B6%D1%8C%D1%8F

Sesam, there's a whole series of these stories. Geographical locations certainly have their prototypes, but there are just too many of them.

Now that I see the Order's recruitment description, I agree that Lucy infected someone on the first night. This time, it doesn't seem like it. But whoever it was hasn't died yet... Question for the **Game Master**: if an infected person has lost all their special abilities but still has some neutral abilities left, how does the infection work? Does the infected person die? Do they start losing two neutral abilities instead of one special ability? Or does one neutral ability get lost each night? Also, I wanted to clarify something from yesterday: how exactly does isolation affect Milton? Does it work the same way as polling and recruitment, or can he be isolated himself? If the last option regarding the infection is correct, then Ru, the old woman, or the maniac could have been infected. If other options are correct, then only the maniac could have been infected. The newspaper's name and the picture of Jason's mask also suggest that the maniac used his ultimate ability, and there aren't many reasons to do that on the second night. Although... someone from the urban group seemed to be complaining about feeling unwell. Or was the maniac just telling them from the bushes that he wasn't feeling well? :D A crazy thought occurred to me... **Game Master**, could the maniac have used his ultimate ability for recruitment? Or is he only allowed to use neutral abilities from the list of actions for his ultimate? Regarding the latest isolation of Ment. It's not a fact that he's a female character, because isolation protects against recruitment, and Ment definitely wasn't a mafia member and wasn't recruited on the previous night. The isolator could have sacrificed their vote to save Ment from possible recruitment. Dracco was blocked by the recruited Cain; I don't see any other explanations. There could have been a setup with the block, because there are no actions from Zero. I doubt he managed to mess up both recruitment and killing. Although, he could have been stunned by Rick, or Cain's block could have been redirected by Crow to Zero. Regarding the killed Heroist. I'm not sure who he was; for Jen Li, everyone except the Order is expendable. Looking at the role descriptions, it really does seem like it could be Crow. I didn't quite understand the hint about the recruited role; in principle, both Ricci and Nancy fit, and with a stretch, even Milton and Lucy. There's no poll from the old woman; maybe she polled Ment or the Heroist. **Game Master**, can Rick's stunning attack interrupt the old woman's poll, or is it considered a block?

Sesam, there’s a whole series of these stories. Geographical locations certainly have their prototypes, but there are too many of them.

I’ve only found this about traveling by water so far. Although, I have a feeling that we should be looking not at the prototypes of the locations, but at various islands associated with books or movies. I’ll try to search for that now, but knowing myself, I think it’s a pointless task.

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This also supports the idea that the newspaper’s name and the picture of Jason’s mask suggest that the maniac used his ultimate ability, and there weren’t many reasons to do it on the second night. Although... Someone from the urban group was complaining about feeling unwell, right? Or was the maniac telling them from the bushes that he wasn’t feeling well? :D

Actually, you’re probably right. I initially thought that “balance” referred to a 1:1 parity in recruitment, but now I think that the maniac definitely used his ultimate ability. But on the second night? Someone is in a hurry... to balance the balance.

I had a crazy thought... Master, could the maniac use his ultimate ability to recruit? Or is he only allowed to use the non-ultimate abilities from the list of actions for his ultimate?

Even if he can, what’s the point of recruiting fighters for the Mafia?

There’s no poll from the old woman; maybe she was polling Ment or Heroist. Master, can Rick’s stunning attack interrupt the old woman’s poll, or is it considered a block?

In theory, Heroist’s poll would have appeared – the murder happens after the poll. So, either the poll went to Ment, or Rick interfered, or someone pretending to be Rick, for example, the maniac.

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Master, how does the maniac’s ultimate ability work?
If he orders, for example, a murder, will it be placed in the queue where the ultimate ability is (zero priority), or where the original murder order is (from the 13th position)?
Can the maniac use his ultimate ability on an action assigned to the role of “Maniac”?

So, it is assumed that the Man used his ultimate ability.
Let's assume that's true, what action did he use it for? He couldn't heal himself if he was actually infected, and the other abilities aren't much better than his regular ones, even considering that his regular abilities are consumed.
He can't recruit units, I already asked the Master about that in a private message.

Update: Indeed, the main advantage of the ultimate ability is that it applies to the first action in the list. The fact that it's applied to a unit, not a player, is also important, but less so.

That’s what I was thinking – can a “Maniac” apply an action to the “Maniac” role?
We’ll wait for the Master’s comments.

Many questions have accumulated. I will answer them now.

Now I understand why the days here are 48 hours long: 24 hours to reach an agreement on what happened last night, and 24 hours to determine the candidate for hanging. :D

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Ideally, the Heroesist poll would appear – the murder happens after the poll.

But the order of events suggests the opposite.

Actually, somewhere it was mentioned that the list of "achievements" of a recruited character is displayed at the end of the day.

So, what is it? What is the question?

Death from infection occurs if there are no available traits or skills to remove, or as soon as the last legal pair disappears?

When nothing remains at the beginning of the day.

If an infected character has used up all their traits, but still has skills left, how does the infection work?

It continues to consume 1 action at a time until nothing remains.

And I also wanted to clarify from yesterday: how exactly does isolation affect Milton? Does it work the same way as with polling and recruitment, or can he be isolated himself?

It works the same way as with polling and recruitment. I initially gave inaccurate information.

Master, could the Maniac use recruitment as his ultimate ability?

He couldn't. He is a loner.

Master, can Rick's stunning attack interrupt Grandma's polling, or is it considered a block?

He can. It is not a block.

If he orders, for example, a murder, will it be placed in the queue where the ultimate ability is (zero priority), or where the original murder is (from the 13th position)?

The Maniac's action, as well as Nancy's action, occurs half a turn after the original action.

That's what I'm thinking, can the Maniac apply an action to the "Maniac" role?

No. Read the rules