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#991
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Is this assuming there were no defenses?
First option.
Why isn't it a fact?
And the paladin also has a double attack, so even defense won't save you in this case.

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#992
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MasteR
Well, just say it then. He said this and that, so it's unlikely he's that and that.
But what if I also don't want to reveal this "that" mafia member?
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#993
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Drakkoska
A, that is, cries like "I only have one role left in psychology, let's execute!" don't count as leaking information. Okay, I'll remember that for you, the Table is a sacred artifact, and mentioning it a priori confirms any nonsense said.

"He said this and that, only a Mafia member could say/know that. Let's execute him!"

Isn't that a valid option in this case? Regarding psychology

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And what if I don't want to reveal this "someone" to the Mafia?
And if in that case, a peaceful player is revealed, then maybe look for other ways. For example, link evidence to the suspected negative player.

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#994
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Arandor
first option.
OK. There are no defenses, the Cat has revealed herself with a spirit, so killing the paladin = 100% chance of dying from an arrow. If you leave the paladin alive, there's still a chance. Especially with your crazy descriptions. x) Where's the guarantee that the paladin won't want to take out the spirit?
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#995
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I was talking about the defenses of the leader and the elf. The spirit transformed back at night, which means there was a double defense. The elf wouldn't have killed him, nor would the leader, but a paladin could have.

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#996
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In short, the Heroes player chose the best possible option, after considering it thoroughly, so don't argue. In all other cases, the victory would have depended on the decisions of other players, and considering that usually a city gives victory to mages rather than warlocks, the chances of success would have been significantly lower than in the option he chose.

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#997
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Wow, well, congrats to us...
Although, playing as the city was terrible. Seriously, I haven't seen anything like that in a long time, it was awful. But the last day was good; I wouldn't have executed Nera. (although this is purely psychological; I stopped following the newspapers, and they were exposing everyone very well, as I understand it), but you guys decided to do it, and you did the right thing. In a way, this makes up for the previous failures.
I wanted to explain why I didn't strongly resist my execution. Several factors: firstly, I didn't have much time during the day, so I wrote what I could. Secondly, I tried to help with my ideas. Thirdly, my role was incredibly useless; I decided that I wouldn't mind, and the information from my execution might be more useful. Although, I think it didn't end up playing a role, but still, there were things to think about and use, seriously... ;)
 

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#998
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"He said this and that, only a Mafia member could say/know that. Let's execute him!"
Isn't that a valid option in this case? From a psychological perspective.
It's no different from saying, "Well, I'm just considering the possibilities, and based on my calculations, the only Mafia roles left are on him, so let's execute him."
Anyway, I'll send you a private message now, sorry for being so blunt. I don't want to encourage this argument.
А, вот почему.

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#999
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Too bad. We could have gathered a lot of posts for this topic.

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Arandor
In short, the Heroes player chose the very best option, after considering it many times, so don't argue.
I'm not arguing about the Heroes player's choice anymore. But the fact that the city won only because of the percentages is a fact. ;)
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#1001
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Well, otherwise, the city would have essentially lost due to the failed percentage rolls.

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#1002
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Their absence would not have changed anything.

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Heroist
Well, otherwise the city would have lost due to the percentages not working out.
That's correct.
Arandor
Their absence wouldn't have changed anything.
That's incorrect.
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#1004
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I don't know what motivated me to execute Ment at that time. For some reason, I had a strong desire to get rid of the paladin as quickly as possible. Maybe it was some kind of feeling of revenge, I don't know. Ideally, the other town members should have dissuaded me from this foolishness, but in the end, only the Mafia did.
Then, the idea came to mind that, forget about this paladin, the main thing is to get rid of the remaining dark mages and ensure the guardian's invulnerability. And she, in conjunction with the elf, could have carried the game.
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#1005
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And yes, Kosh, I keep forgetting to respond to you about the spreadsheets. My position is this: if someone uses spreadsheets and says something like, "According to the spreadsheet, I only have one role left, so let's execute him!", then they should post the spreadsheet for everyone to see and explain why the other roles were ruled out. Otherwise, it should be considered leaking information obtained through their role and punished with a modkill.
I would say there's some truth to that. Although, Kosh also has a point – any conclusion based on a spreadsheet can formally be attributed to some kind of psychology (which is actually based on the fact that you know your role, or some information, but you present a different justification to the public). And that becomes... leaking information. In general, it's very, very difficult to play Mafia completely honestly, to be frank, if it's even possible at all. What can be done is to limit such things with rules, so that any unfairly obtained information is at least masked and therefore only taken into account by some players. Those who are more observant, at least in this particular case.
 

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