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Tournament
"Новичок-2015. Winter"


Greetings to all fans of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, future participants, and supporters of the traditional "Новичок" tournament. I hope the new season will once again please us with great games and new discovery players.
Trolls registered between 2011 - 2013, please do not flood; otherwise, penalty points for flooding will find their heroes.
This is our traditional twelfth tournament for Новичок.
We have no exact or strict definition of who a "новичок" is. This tournament is for those
- who only recently realized that you can play the beloved old game Heroes over the internet,
- who only recently found out that they aren't the only ones who can easily beat computers and that it's not so simple with a real person,
- who recently started playing with more than one or two heroes and building chains...

We are not inviting fathers and grandfathers, we do not want to see clones, and besides, would a medal obtained in such a dubious way have any value for a strong player?

The main goal of the tournament is to get to know each other and gain experience in communication and gameplay.

Winners of past tournaments:

"Новичок-2014. Summer" - Falcone
"Новичок-2014. Winter" - Aiwe
"Новичок-2013. Summer" - The_
"Новичок-2013. Winter" - высокий
"Новичок-2012. Summer" - twaryna
"Новичок-2012. Winter" - 7z
"Новичок-2011. Summer" - Sky Pioneer
"Новичок-2011. Winter" - Sevensan
"Новичок-2010. Summer" - тенью бездомной
"Новичок-2010. Winter" - Сатир
"Новичок-2009. Summer" - Erdem
Participant Requirements.

1. Players registered on our forum or another gaming resource between 01.01.2014 and 01.01.2015 are eligible to participate in the tournament; applications from players with an earlier registration date will be considered individually.

2. Players who have longer playing experience will not be admitted to the tournament.
3. Players who are already strong enough and have shown decent results in any tournament are not eligible to participate.
4. A tournament participant must play several games in the season or write at least 5 detailed reports in "phantom" according to HeroesWorld rules (games can be played after registration). This is necessary to ensure that you are technically able to play online and have an understanding of the Forum rules.
5. Players wishing to participate in the tournament undertake to provide any additional information requested by the tournament judges.
6. The organizers reserve the right to refuse registration to anyone if they believe there are valid reasons, without a public explanation of those reasons.

Leave applications in this thread. There is a Detailed instruction with pictures FAQ17 on the forum explaining how to do this.
The following steps are required:
1. Check if an ICQ number is entered in your profile; add it if it is missing.
If it is in your profile, a small green daisy — the ICQ symbol — will be visible under the avatar. If not, follow the algorithm.
2. Leave an application in this thread. To do this, click the Sign up for tournament button located at the beginning of this thread and at the top of each page.
3. In the application, specify a convenient time (days and hours) for playing and your time zone.
4. 2-3 days before the draw, you must contact the lead Iamsamstan (IСQ 435-191-039) and confirm participation. Players who disappear from the forum (lack of user activity for a week) will not be admitted to the draw.
Organizational Matters.

1. Leads - Iamsamstan (IСQ 435-191-039), злой_романтик (ICQ 296-524-052), Judges - WiZarDX_576(ICQ 608941846), in the absolute same extreme case, contact Pit for LM (ICQ 471401475).
2. The tournament is conducted according to the Rules of organization, conduct and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. Organizers will make changes to the rules and regulations during the tournament if necessary.
4. For each played game, participants must submit a detailed report and detailed confirmation in this thread. Only then is the game counted. All tournament reports must be written using the automatic report writing system: Detailed instruction with pictures FAQ18.
- To create a report, click the New report button located at the top of each page of the thread and fill in all necessary fields according to the template. After that, write your detailed comments on the game.
- To confirm a report, the second player must find the game report, click the Confirm report button and also write a detailed report.
- It is considered good tone to thank the opponent for the game.
5. All tournament games go into the HoMM3 HW player rating.
6. Technical results are assigned for games not played within the established timeframe.
7. Saves and password files for all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon first request by the leads, tournament judges, or any member of the AC. Forgetting or losing a game password may serve as grounds for assigning a technical defeat in the game.
8. Disputable points, if any arise, are requested to be discussed off-forum. To resolve them, you must contact the lead or tournament judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The same judicial decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If a situation is not regulated by the rules, judges are guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.
9. The tournament winner will be awarded a "Tournament Winner 'Новичок'" medal under their avatar:
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Regulations.

Stage 1. 36 participants are divided into 6 groups of 6 people. A round-robin tournament is held in each group, where everyone plays everyone else once. 1 point is given for a win, 0.5 points for a draw, and zero for a loss. The 2 people with the best results and 4 players who took 3rd place with the best indicators advance from the group to the next stage. Result criteria by order of importance: 1) points earned, 2) Berger coefficient, 3) result of head-to-head meeting. If these criteria are insufficient, a system of tie-breaker games will be offered to the players. If that also does not help, democratic judicial discretion will be applied. All games in the group stage are played on template 2sm4d(3)
Stage 2. Tournament of novices against veterans. NP vs LM. Each play-off participant has the right to choose one person from the LM team; the composition of this team is currently being formed.
Stage 3. Play-off. Starts April 27, 2015. Conducted via an Olympic system with elimination after the second lost match. Each match in the upper bracket is played to two wins, and in the lower bracket to one win. Time limit for 1 game - 1 week. (The loser in the upper bracket moves to the lower bracket and continues playing there. The loser in the lower bracket is eliminated from the competition.)
Templates in the first game are chosen by the player marked in blue, who also chooses castles first. In the second game, you switch places. For the third game, you may toss a coin or contact the organizer for this.
Dates.
Registration - January 29, 2015 - March 01, 2015.
Approval of participant list - March 01-02, 2015.
Group stage draw and start of tournament - March 03, 2015.
Time limit for one game - 10 days.

Rules.


1. Game version. The tournament is conducted on game version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + by mutual agreement
HW_rulez (For correct operation, the patch must be installed for both players.), and by mutual agreement WT.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the rules of online games in Heroes 3.
3. Restarts total 3 days ( 111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113)
4. In the final part of the tournament, template selection is done by drawing from a list of 5 templates: 2sm4d3, jebus Cross, Panic, 8mm6a, mini nostalgia.
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We resurrected, one restart left.
Two Necropolis towns were rolled, Moardin advanced immediately, a Griffin Conservatory is up, Lizard Archers are built, two roads are open. There is something to necromance, crypts are available, the cavalry should come through, the downside is the Stable is far away.
On week 1, day 14 we ran into each other in the adjacent zone, the opponent also has bone dragons, he attacks Eislinn with Meatshields using Vokial. We decide not to restart upon meeting and continue playing.
I have 40 Skeletons and 19 Lizard Archers, a few Faerie Dragons, he has some Grand Elves, 40 Centaurs, 40 bone dragons, and 2 Treants, 10 Dwarves.
We trade blows, I buy back. On my turn I break his horses and attack his main hero. He buys back.
We dance in the adjacent zone, there isn't enough money to build up, but I control the adjacent zone. I barely place stables in the Fort on week 1, day 17, and bring Eislinn with 30 mana and advanced Earth Magic to his Castle. From spells, only Shield from a scroll and Meteor Shower. On week 1, day 21, there is no Citadel - I attack. I have 2 horses and 100 bone dragons, he has 2 Treants and 50 bone dragons. On the second turn, the opponent sacrifices his Treants and bone dragons under Meteor Shower, after casting only a few bone dragons remain.
Thanx for game. This game was too risky, but full of action.
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Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Кейтлин / Caitlin Start Hero Кейтлин / Caitlin
Эйслинн / Aislinn Main Hero Эйслинн / Aislinn
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Gee
Синий / Blue
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Мефала / Mephala Start Hero Мефала / Mephala
Вокиал / Vokial Main Hero Вокиал / Vokial
Map Template
2sm4d(3)
Game Length
121 days
Game Date
3/6/2015
Reported
3/6/2015 7:51 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Loinz 1409 1428 +19 ↑
Gee 1531 1512 -19 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/6/2015 8:35 PM

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Loinz
We re-started, only one restart left each.
Two Necros came in, Moandor advanced immediately, Griffon Conservatory is up, Archers built, two roads. There's something to Necro, Crypts are there, Pegasi should be built, Minus Stable is far away.
On day 114 we ran into each other in the adjacent zone, the opponent also has Bones, he attacks Ayslinn with Vokial and Meat. We decide not to restart over this encounter and continue playing.
I have 40 Skeletons and 19 Archers, single Fairies, he has a few Grands, 40 Centaurs, 40 Bones, and 2 Dendroids, 10 Dwarves.
We trade blows, I surrender. On my turn I take out his Spearmen and attack his main. He surrenders.
We dance in the adjacent zone, not enough money to build up, but I control the adjacent zone. I barely build Pegasi in the Fort on day 117, bring Ayslinn with 30 mana and advanced Earth to his Castle. Spells: only Shield from a scroll and Meteor. On day 121, no Citadel — I attack. I have 2 Pegasi and 100 Bones, he has 2 Dendroids and 50 Bones. The opponent sacrifices Dendroids and Bones under Meteor on the second turn; after the cast, about ten Bones remain.
Thanx for game. This game was too risky, but full of action.
Small area for me, bad idea not to take my last restart. But Vokial came and with Mephala thought I'll manage. 113 go in 4 or 8 zone betating almost 50 wolf raiders. At the start of day 114 I saw Ayslinn with smaller army than mine. I decided to attack, ehen fighting we agree to continue the game. He surrendered gave some money, but coudn't build pegassi because the lack of crystals. Next day with improved army he came at me with Moandor, my turn to surrender. I tried to recover until 121 but he defeated me that day. Thanks for the game.
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Loinz
06.03.2015 Loinz (Red, Castle, Caitlin, Eislinn) def Gee (Blue, Rampart, Mephala, Vokial) 2sm4d(3) 121

We scouted, one restart remaining each.
Two Necromancers came in, Moardin advanced right away, the Griffin Conservatory is up, Archers are built, two roads. There's something to Necro, there are Crypts, the Cavaliers should come, except the Stables are far away.
On 114 we ran into each other in the adjacent zone, the opponent has Skeletons too, he attacks with Vokial on Eislinn with troops. We decide not to restart on the encounter, we continue playing.
I have 40 Spearmen and 19 Archers, a few Faeries, he has a few Grands, 40 Centaurs, 40 Skeletons and 2 Dendroids, 10 Dwarves.
We trade, I buy back. On my turn I kill off his Cavaliers and attack his main. He buys back.
We dance in the adjacent zone, little gold for building, but I control the adjacent zone. I barely place Cavaliers in the Fort on 117, move Eislinn with 30 mana and Advanced Earth Magic to his Castle. From spells only Shield from a scroll and Meteor Shower. On 121 no Citadel - I attack. I have 2 Cavaliers and 100 Skeletons, he has 2 Dendroids and 50 Skeletons. The opponent puts the Dendroids and Skeletons under Meteor Shower on the second turn, after the cast about ten Skeletons remain.
Thanx for game. This game was too risky, but full of action.
Did I miss something, or can Meteor Shower already be used without building the 4th Mage Guild?
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Kamnerub
Did I miss something, or can the meteor shower already be used without building the 4th Guildhall?

The meteor is a built-in ability for Aislinn.
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Did I miss something, or can the meteor shower already be used without building the 4th Guildhall?
Yes, since June 1, 2013.
It can only be used on Panic/Balance maps and with a 200% bonus, but it can be used on Competitive maps.
The meteor is not from a scroll.
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The situation was much better than my opponent's. Müllich was leveling up surprisingly well. Too bad Slow was far away and there was no one to pass it with, Mass Earth wasn't working at full capacity. 2 Dragon Fly Hives (4+6) at the start of the second week. I'm aiming for another one and for breaking through with a Sword +6 and Shield +5 at the start of the 3rd week. But on day 125, the opponent arrives. After trading blows, he sits down to replenish mana in the captured Castle, I decide to finish him off. Day 126 fireball. Out of 14 Wyverns, only one survived. After a series of Hittrans, almost nothing is left of the army. I gather the remaining meat - I break through his town on day 127. He surrenders on day 132.
Thank you for the game, good luck further on.
I confirm. We didn't quite play according to the template. Neither of us noticed that we were playing without the Dungeon. The respawn was tiny and empty, the secondary respawn was also empty, not a single Necromancer, nothing... no money, only Mages and they were unlucky. The Mage Guild level 2 gave Ice Bolt instead of Lightning Bolt. I saved on everything, collected everything that was available. I simply didn't have enough cash to rush with Mages. Having Lightning Bolt, the outcome would have been different, even on such an empty wasteland as we got.
Thank you for the game.
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After finishing all restarts, I wake up in a big zone, and very curly road. Took sawmill in day 4. Took Septiema from tavern, but didn't manage to make to many skelettons. Day 117 went underground and find lava, in 121 took inferno castle. In 125 with last move of Crag took a conservatory and saw Ivor with one pegasus on him, but not enough movement points to reach him. Day 126 my opponent gave up. Thanks for the game!
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Красный / Red
Gee
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Start Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Крег Хак / Crag Hack Main Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Ивор / Ivor Start Hero Ивор / Ivor
Ивор / Ivor Main Hero Ивор / Ivor
Map Template
2sm4d(3)
Game Length
126 days
Game Date
3/7/2015
Reported
3/7/2015 6:21 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Gee 1476 1493 +17 ↑
Blitz 1527 1510 -17 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/7/2015 6:29 PM

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After finishing all restarts, I wake up in a big zone, and very curly road. Took sawmill in day 4. Took Septiema from tavern, but didn't manage to make too many skeletons. Day 117 went underground and found lava, in 121 took inferno castle. In 125 with the last move of Crag, I took a conservatory and saw Ivor with one pegasus on him, but not enough movement points to reach him. Day 126 my opponent gave up. Thanks for the game!
Confirmed.
The first game was great. 4 conservatories on the starting map, 5 crypts, 2 hidden stashes of wood, but there was a restart due to a meeting on day 115 from my opponent.
In the current game, my opponent was superior in terms of map control, but creating a strong stack of wood units turned out to be not the best idea, although it seemed promising, considering the presence of a hidden stash of wood.
And if they hadn't been eaten in the Nagashnik, there wouldn't have been a decent stack left after that, so the group of water elementals gave them a beating. Probably, if I hadn't gone into the Nagashnik, everything would have been different, but Heroes, as we know, don't tolerate hypothetical scenarios:)
Thanks for the game.
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On the second day, I took the minimal Dragon Fly Hive. Then I cleared the eye external dwelling, picked up Inferno and Dungeon, and the mini Dragon Fly Hive in the swamp treasure zone. Shakti Expertised Earth Magic.
At the start of the second week, I thought about buying up the eye, portaling them into two Dungeons, and heading to the opponent, but I had no money at all, so I went to a treasure zone on grass. I messed up badly in fights, but I moshed three Angels, 21 Dragon Flies (I also lost 15 :D, so I didn't go into the Dragon Utopia, but went to another treasure zone).
In the third week, I cleared the second treasure zone, took one Dragon Utopia - it gave some stats and a Captain's Hat, which I proudly put on right away :D
At the start of the fourth week, I took two more Dragon Utopias, which gave full control. I built up a lot of mana and went through ГО straight at the opponent. I reached the town, saw a stack on a horse, attacked and killed it.
Thanks for the game.
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Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Шакти / Shakti Main Hero Шакти / Shakti
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Крепость / Fortress Faction Крепость / Fortress
Тазар / Tazar Start Hero Тазар / Tazar
Галтран / Galthran Main Hero Галтран / Galthran
Map Template
2sm4d(3)
Game Length
143 days
Game Date
3/7/2015
Reported
3/7/2015 6:53 PM
Rating Impact Archived
MikeM 1557 1571 +14 ↑
Jubi-Juby 1527 1513 -14 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/7/2015 6:57 PM

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On the second day, I took a mini Dragon Fly Hive. Then I cleared an external dwelling of the Eye, took Inferno and Dungeon, and a mini Dragon Fly Hive in the swamp treasure zone. Shakti Expertised Earth Magic.
At the start of the second week, I was thinking of buying the Eye, Portaling them into two Dungeon towns, and riding to the opponent, but I had no gold at all, so I went to a treasure zone on grass. I made a lot of mistakes in battles, but I swindled three Angels, 21 Dragon Flies (I lost another 15 :D, so I didn't go into the Dragon Utopia, but went to another treasure zone).
On the third week, I cleared the second treasure zone, took one Dragon Utopia - got a few stats and a Captain's Hat, which I proudly put on right away :D
At the start of the fourth week, I took two more Dragon Utopias, where I got full control. I accumulated a lot of mana and rode through GO with a running start to the opponent. I reached the town, saw the swindlers on the Lich, attacked, and killed them.
Thanks for the game.
Thanks for the game!
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Loinz
yes, since June 1, 2013, it's not allowed to be used only on Panic/Balance maps at 200%, but it is allowed on Chaos maps.
Meteor cannot be cast from a scroll.
It's not allowed on Panic, but it is allowed on Balance.
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I suggest that in the future, we abolish the rule for group stage games that only allows for skirmish mode – it’s pure sadism towards those who don’t enjoy playing in this format.
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I suggest that in the future, the rule for playing only on small maps in the group stage be abolished – it’s pure sadism for those who don’t like playing this map type.
The law is harsh, but it is the law.
You knew what you were signing up for; participate in the group stage and play whatever map is chosen.
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I suggest adding in the description of the next registration, in large letters, that if you are eager to play and find the standard mode boring or unbalanced, and you want to immediately play complex strategies, then welcome to other tournaments – you are clearly not a beginner, and the description at the top is not for you: - for those who have recently discovered that they can play their favorite old game, Heroes, online, - for those who have recently learned that they are not the only ones who can easily defeat the AI and that it is not so easy against a real person, - for those who have recently started playing with more than one or two heroes and building chains... This is not for you. Of course, now, thanks to streams, many beginners have a pretty good level, but this is a tournament for those who are learning to play, and the standard mode in a group and with simple strategies is the best way to learn. I have checked this from my own experience. For a normal, classic newbie from streams, it can be difficult to learn to read strategies in the standard mode, and you immediately want to play XL in a group. Sorry, I just had to say it.
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I suggest adding in large letters to the description of the next registration that if you're eager to play and find the current meta boring or unbalanced, and you want to immediately play complex strategies, then welcome to other tournaments. It means you're definitely not a beginner, and the description at the top –

- for those who have recently discovered that they can play their favorite old Heroes game online,
- for those who have just learned that they are not the only ones who can easily defeat the AI and that it's not so simple against a real person,
- for those who have recently started playing with more than one or two heroes and building chains...

– doesn't apply to you.

Of course, now, thanks to streams, many beginners have a pretty good level, but this is a tournament for those who are learning to play, and the best way to learn is in the skirmish mode in a group and with simple strategies in the Pit of Oblivion. I've checked it myself. Even for a normal, classic newbie from streams, it can be difficult to learn to read strategies in the skirmish mode, and you immediately want to play XL in a group.

Sorry, I just had to say it.
The guys just want to play for about 3 months, have a good time, and play for longer:D

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