New threat. — Maps: Tribes of the East

MasteR

3/17/2013 6:29 PM UTC

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Valerichek

I had 7 Phoenixes there, but they were standing in an empty spot, so I destroyed them out of boredom. The strategy seems okay – I'm not losing much.

I just checked, and the hut is still there; it hasn't disappeared. Maybe you didn't notice it because it's behind a mountain? Just in case, let me explain: the entire above-ground part of the map is divided into 4 levels. The first level is the outskirts and takes the longest to traverse. The border of each level is guarded by a large army of level 7 creatures that require resources to pass. There are only 7 ruins of a human city, and they are all (naturally) located in the Haven territory. 3 are located in the western area on the outskirts (the first level of the map) (if you follow the pointers on the map), and 1 is in the east, also on the 1st level. The remaining 3 are located in the transition zone between levels 1 and 2. 2 of them can be found before encountering the Archangels, and 1 after. You don't need to send the main hero to the first level more than once; upon returning, just complete the quest for the prophet and gather as many peasants as you need. It's better to do all the other work with secondary heroes who are sitting in prison, waiting to be freed.

Also, here's one more important thing: before entering the Dungeon, to avoid having to discard one type of unit in favor of another, the player needs to have the following types of creatures from level 1 to 7 (when upgrading creatures, they may have 2 variants, for example, Stalkers or Assassins. I don't remember all the names, so I'll denote them with numbers):
Level 1 - 3 (Stalkers)
Level 2 - 2 (Furies)
Level 3 - 3
Level 4 - 3
Level 5 - 3
Level 6 - 2 (Shadow Lords)
Level 7 - 2 (Black Dragons)
Some may disagree, but I think this is the optimal way to assemble troops for this playthrough.

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MasteR

3/17/2013 8:07 PM UTC

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Attention! Especially for those who are not very familiar with playing as Dark Elves or for beginners, I am posting recordings of my battles as a guide. If you want to explore the world of Heroes on your own, you don't need to watch these recordings. Here, I show HOW to defeat a substantial group of 7th-level creatures with minimal losses, using one or another spell! I would like to note that all the spells used are available on the map. I could have even played better, but I didn't try very hard. I hope this helps you.

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Player100

3/18/2013 12:20 AM UTC

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Maybe the map is good, but I can't find out. When I try to load a save, either Windows crashes or the computer freezes completely. And without saves, you can't really play your map. In such unusual circumstances, when it's unclear how soon I'll be able to replenish my army, every scout is valuable.

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MasteR

3/18/2013 5:55 AM UTC

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Player100

The map might be good, but I can't find out. When I try to load a save, either Windows crashes or the computer freezes completely. And without saves, you can't really play your map. In such unusual circumstances, when it's unclear how soon I'll be able to replenish my army, every scout counts.

Does this happen with every save? Have you tried changing the graphics quality?

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vadim_t

3/18/2013 4:02 PM UTC

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3 hours?? I must be a REALLY bad player:rolleyes:
I've been playing the latest version since its release... (Well, not all day long, of course;)). In particular, after discovering quests for all peasants and all dwellings, I started replaying, starting from the point where I switch to part 2 of the map.
I found that in a well-hidden village in the north, I can only complete one quest for an artifact. After destroying the undead, it says 0%... Accordingly, no taxes are collected...
I'll try replaying again, but I'm afraid it's a bug...
P.S. Here, I just checked the first house - the quest about the undead - I killed the nearby zombies - progress 0%. And also - the approach to the ore customer is difficult, and I can't get to the zombies near his hut yet...

Player100

3/18/2013 4:24 PM UTC

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Does this happen every time you save? Have you tried changing the graphics quality?

It happens with almost every quick save and 9 out of 10 regular saves. The graphics quality is already set to medium.
Just in case, I'm attaching information about my computer.

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MasteR

3/18/2013 5:12 PM UTC

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vadim_t

3 hours?? I must be a VERY bad player:rolleyes:
I've been playing the latest version since its release... (Well, not all day long, of course;)). In particular, after discovering quests for all the peasants and all the dwellings, I started replaying, starting from the transition to part 2 of the map.
I found that in a well-hidden village in the north, I can only complete one quest for an artifact. After the undead are destroyed, it says 0%... Accordingly, taxes are not collected...
I'll try replaying again, but I'm afraid it's a bug...
P.S. Here, I just checked the first house - the undead quest - I killed the nearby zombies - progress 0%. And also - access to the ore customer is difficult, and it is not yet possible to approach the zombies near his hut...

Yes, you are absolutely right, I noticed this during the second test. This is because I removed a region from the map, but the script using it was not deleted. I have fixed this, and some other minor issues, and I am uploading what I hope is the final version =) Well, 3 hours - mostly not counting the time spent in battles, they just pass very quickly for me. Access to the zombies will be unlocked when you receive the quest from the peasant.

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Player100

With every quick save and 9 out of 10 normal saves. The quality is already mediocre.
Just in case, I'm attaching information about my computer.

Hmm... For now, the only thing I can advise is that in places where you know you will need to save frequently, temporarily set the lowest graphics settings in the game. If a crash still occurs, quickly stop the Heroes application in the task manager and restart the game (this is not a very good option, but it doesn't take much time). Personally, on my computer, it crashes 1 out of 10 times. Try the lightweight version (there are fewer reasons to save). I will test the game on my prehistoric computer, which I turn on once a year, maybe I can come up with some more solutions =)

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It's a pity that due to map errors and other circumstances, almost no one has made it to the middle of the map and met the scout yet =( My last piece of advice is to save when entering the Dungeon. As I said, the game has 2 endings, and everything will depend on your choice.

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vadim_t

3/18/2013 5:36 PM UTC

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I tried loading the game, replacing the map in the \\maps\\ folder with a new one (hard difficulty). I re-cleared all the zombies – the result is the same. Do I have to start everything from the beginning???

Player100

3/18/2013 5:55 PM UTC

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If it crashes, the application closes automatically. But when it freezes, it freezes completely, and no task manager helps (even if you perform a ritual).
The problem is that I don't know which maps require registration and which don't. Besides the battles, which you ideally want to complete with minimal losses, you also encounter surprises.
For such maps, you should also include the minimum system requirements in the description. Although it's strange – my computer is newer than the game, and, for example, Skyrim runs on it at maximum graphics settings.

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MasteR

3/18/2013 6:08 PM UTC

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vadim_t

I tried loading the game by replacing the map in \maps\ with a new one (hard). I re-killed all the zombies – the result is the same. Do I have to start all over again???

I checked the new one; the zombie quest and everything else works. It seems like, yes, you have to start over.

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Player100

If it crashes to the desktop, the application closes itself, but when it freezes, it freezes completely, and no task manager helps (even if you dance around with a drum).
That's the problem: I don't know where the game saves and where it doesn't – besides the battles, which you ideally want to complete with minimal losses, you also encounter other surprises.
For such maps, you should also specify the minimum system requirements in the description. Although it's strange – my computer is newer than the game; for example, Skyrim runs on it at maximum graphics settings.

It seems the problem isn't with the computer. And I don't think the difference is due to my 64-bit OS. Oh, if I had known that such problems could occur, I wouldn't have created such a large map.

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vadim_t

3/18/2013 9:49 PM UTC

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My solution to the save game problem is simple: exit the game, start it again, and only then load the save. Since, fortunately, the save file sizes don't reach their maximum limits, at least before enabling opponents, everything works. It's inconvenient, but what can I do? On the map I mentioned earlier, I tried everything, including adding more hardware. So, the computer isn't the issue. The only thing left is the bitness of the operating system, which I haven't checked because I don't want to part with my favorite compiler...

Player100

3/19/2013 10:28 PM UTC

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You, vadim_t, are a hero. For me, this is masochism (but maybe I'm the only one who thinks so). I don't want to offend the author, but I would prefer to play more playable maps.

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vadim_t

3/20/2013 7:34 AM UTC

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Player100

I don't want to offend the author, but I would prefer to play more playable maps.

But that's a shame. This is one of the few maps that is truly engaging. Personally, I started playing with the very first version, and with each new version, I had to start over. However, once you get used to it, everything becomes tolerable, and you start to enjoy it.
The author is not really to blame: the developers made XXXL maps problematic in the 5th installment from the very beginning. On the other hand, it is on such maps that you can spend a long time exploring the map and, accordingly, remain in anticipation: what else will be new?
So, believe me, the extra "Alt+F4" and a click on the game are not such big costs... I was much more upset not to finish the map because at the end the size of the saves exceeded some address limit. I hope this won't happen with this map! :rolleyes:

MasteR

3/20/2013 2:08 PM UTC

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I don't understand why these problems are occurring. I'm playing the map again, and I've reached the center. Out of many saves and loads, there were only 4 crashes, and even those weren't fatal, as everything loaded normally when I restarted the game.

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Heroist

3/20/2013 3:01 PM UTC

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Juss456

I don't understand why there are so many problems. I'm playing the map again, and I've reached the very center. Out of a bunch of saves and loads, there were only 4 crashes, and they weren't fatal, as everything loaded normally the next time I launched the game.

You are the creator, and the map respects you and doesn't want to crash, it's obvious :D

Whatever