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I would personally shake the hand of everyone who was involved in introducing this ban. There is no discomfort from it, quite the opposite. They could even lower it to 8 PM; they'll drink earlier, and go to bed earlier. :)
I completely agree about the discomfort; they sold alcohol after 10 PM, and they still sell it, and they will continue to sell it, and no law matters to anyone – this is Russia :D
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But what about "a person, their life, and their health are the highest value for the state"?

I don't know where the quote comes from, but the Constitution states: "Man, his rights and freedoms are the highest value." All these laws restrict personal freedom.
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And then, if during or after being drunk, you feel like doing something heroic (which happens in most cases), and you do something? Then it will no longer be your personal business.

I don't know how it is in your case, but in most cases. When I'm drunk, I'm always rational. And I am responsible for my actions, whether I am drunk or not. If a person cannot control themselves under the influence of alcohol, the problem is not with the alcohol, but with the person. And why, I ask, because of such idiots, I can't buy alcohol after 10 pm on a Friday evening? What do I have to do with it?
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I completely agree about the discomfort; they sold it after 10 pm before, and they still do, and they will continue to do so, and no law matters to anyone – this is Russia :D

I personally tried to buy it a couple of times, but they wouldn't sell it under any circumstances. Even in a familiar store, they don't sell it, and they get severely reprimanded for it because the fines are huge.
At "Red and White," they sometimes even ask for my ID, and I'm almost 30 years old. :)
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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This is what crime prevention looks like in action.

So, what has changed after the introduction of this "prevention"? Are there fewer hooligans causing trouble? I doubt it. Are there fewer alcoholics? I don't think so. All of this is useless because the root of the problem is not alcohol, but the people themselves.
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So, what has changed after the introduction of this "prevention measure"? Are there fewer instances of uncivilized behavior? I doubt it. Are there fewer alcoholics? I don't think so. All of this is useless because the root of the problem isn't alcohol, but the people themselves.

Uncivilized behavior has definitely decreased. Don't forget that in a certain state, almost everyone turns into an uncivilized person, and when you go for another drink and they don't sell it to you, you're initially unhappy, but then you end up thanking them because that extra drink is usually unnecessary. :)
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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There is definitely less uncivilized behavior.

Where did you get this information? I personally don't notice any progress in people's awareness.
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Don't forget that under certain conditions, almost everyone turns into an uncivilized person.

It's simpler – uncivilized people always remain uncivilized, whether they are drunk or not. And an adequate person maintains self-control whether they are drunk or sober. Alcohol simply reveals a person's true nature. And if something unpleasant comes out of a person under the influence of alcohol, it will sooner or later come out even without it.
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I personally tried to buy it a couple of times – they wouldn't sell it under any circumstances. Even in a familiar store – they don't sell it, and now they're really cracking down on the sellers because the fines are huge.
At "red and white" stores, they sometimes even ask for my ID, and I'm almost 30 years old. :)
That's strange; I've been living in St. Petersburg recently, I don't have any acquaintances who are sellers, but there are a couple of "no-problem" stores right near my house, and not just near my house...:confused:
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It's simpler than that – a boor will always remain a boor, whether drunk or sober. A reasonable person maintains self-control whether drunk or sober. Alcohol simply reveals a person's true nature. And if, under the influence of alcohol, a person's true nature is revealed to be unpleasant, it will sooner or later emerge even without alcohol.
I disagree. I personally know several people who are significantly affected by alcohol and transform from normal, reasonable people into unrestrained boors. And such people exist in all social classes. And you are wrong about the "dirt" that comes out; it's not dirt, it's the lack of inhibitions and a sudden surge of self-confidence. Alcohol has the property of influencing these things.
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Ihtiandr
Where did you get this information? Personally, I don't notice any progress in the public's awareness.
This is just my personal observation. It's become much calmer in the evenings now. Go out, for example, in the summer to a square or a park closer to night on a weekend and see for yourself. Of course, this ban doesn't solve all the problems, but there are significantly fewer cases of abuse.
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It's simpler – a boor will always remain a boor, whether he's drunk or not. And an adequate person maintains self-control whether drunk or sober. Alcohol simply reveals a person's true nature. And if something nasty comes out of a person under the influence of alcohol, it will sooner or later come out even without it.

Well, you're just too naive, apparently, if you think so. I personally have a lot of experience in this regard, and I can say with full responsibility that almost everyone turns into a boor when they don't know when to stop (I myself, for example :)). Not every time, of course, but I'm sure everyone can recall cases when they were ashamed of their actions in the morning. If you seem "adequate" to yourself at that moment, it doesn't mean that others see you as adequate, especially if those "others" are sober. I've had several times when I was sober in a company of drinking people, who, according to my personal scale of adequacy, score 9 out of 10, and believe me, what I saw there – I'd rather not have seen it. :D
And this was very often related to "additives" – when you're already feeling good, but you want to feel even better (and it turns out the way you know). :)
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That's strange, I've been living in St. Petersburg recently, I don't have any acquaintances who are sellers, but there are a couple of "problem-free" stores right near my house, and not just near my house...:confused:

Come visit us in Tyumen and check it out. ;)
Your sellers probably haven't been given a "talking to" yet. Once a person in plain clothes comes in for a test purchase, and there will be one "problem-free" store less.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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Come visit us in Tyumen and check it out. ;)
Your salespeople probably haven't been given a good talking-to yet. One time, someone in plain clothes will come in for a test purchase, and there will be one fewer "problem-free" store.
"You'll be in Tyumen... No, you come to us instead":)
People have come and bought things, but...
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Not every time, of course, but I'm sure everyone can recall instances where they felt ashamed of their actions the next morning.

Yes, that happens sometimes. But we sometimes feel ashamed of actions we commit not only when drunk. What we do while intoxicated, we would like to do even when sober, but we find the strength to stop ourselves. Alcohol frees us from prejudices, allowing us to be ourselves for a while, without blaming ourselves for it. Many people are afraid to be themselves, which is why they often feel ashamed after being drunk. From my own experience, I can confidently say that I am always myself, regardless of whether I am drunk or not. And if I ever have to use the cliché excuse, "Well, I was drunk, alcohol changes a person, you understand..." - I will stop respecting myself. Because I know that it is not true. Yesterday's me, completely drunk, is the same me as I am now. Therefore, even if we completely give up alcohol, the world will not become better, but will remain exactly the same.
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Ihitandr, you're talking nonsense.
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За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Ihitandr, you're talking nonsense.

It's a pity you didn't understand my point; I wrote it especially for you. I'm going to get drunk out of frustration...))
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Alcohol undoubtedly affects a person, and it affects absolutely everyone without exception, regardless of their willpower. Different types of alcohol affect everyone differently, depending on the individual characteristics of each organism. Over time, a person who drinks learns their limit, their threshold, and so on, and knowing this, they can regulate the amount of alcohol they consume. The difference lies in the ability to listen to one's body and not allow it to exceed that limit, which turns a person into someone who is not in control. Regarding the general situation on the streets, I can confidently say that Omsk has become much calmer. You can walk through all the squares, parks, and streets more safely than before. There are many fewer people with open bottles, and there are also fewer fights and rude arguments. The youth have become much more educated and cultured, and the way they communicate has also changed for the better. During mass events – any sports events or gatherings in parks – people are much more sober than they used to be. Police officers now have a hard time finding the few drunken individuals, and you almost feel sorry for them, as they were just peacefully going about their business. During adolescence, boys often try harmful habits and then give them up, although there are now more girls who drink and smoke, but over the past couple of years, I have noticed that this number is also decreasing. I grew up among a diverse group of acquaintances, friends, and comrades: there were alcoholics, drug addicts, athletes, ex-convicts, and law enforcement officers, i.e., I had to deal with practically all segments of society and navigate between them during my formative years. So, taking the last ten years of my life, seven years of my younger brother's life, and another three to four years from my older brother, I can say that life has changed by about 110 degrees for the better, regarding all conversations about harmful habits and being in public places. These are purely personal observations, but I have no reason to deceive myself, so I am optimistic about the future and support limiting the hours for selling alcohol. As for human rights and freedoms, not everything you want is freedom. Freedom is the right to choose within established rules. Every obligation has its own right, and if there are no restrictions, there will be no freedom, as lawlessness can confine it. P.S. A very drunk person who does something stupid or bad is not the same person as when they are sober. Alcohol acts against a person's will and forces them to act in a certain way, and sometimes a person cannot restrain themselves and commits offenses. What a person does while drunk, they would most likely not do when sober, not only because they restrain themselves when sober, but also because the brain is not capable of carrying out full-fledged mental activity, choosing the right solution. And if they choose wrong actions and decisions, it is quite possible that the person will begin to commit unlawful acts, which is why the law keeps us at home when we are drunk, taking care of us so that we do not do something bad, for which we will have to pay. If a person in a drunken state did what they wanted to do when sober, but was only held back by the fear of showing it in front of someone, then to find out what they really want, they would have to be made drunk. But if we made them drunk and found out that they wanted to rape someone, then we would know that when sober, they actually want to do it. And if we know that they have this in mind, then it looks like intent, planning, and this is a criminal offense. Since this is punishable, it means that the police just need to get someone drunk, listen to what they say while under the influence, and arrest them for everything as a preventive measure against crimes, because they are harboring monstrous plans:D
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STATE STANDARD OF THE USSR
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RECTIFIED ETHYL ALCOHOL TECHNICAL
TECHNICAL CONDITIONS
GOST 18300-72

Official edition
STATE COMMITTEE
FOR STANDARDS OF THE USSR
Moscow
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Approved and put into effect
by the Decree of the State Committee
for Standards of the Council of Ministers of the USSR dated
December 26, 1972, No. 2329

5. SAFETY REQUIREMENTS
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5.1. Ethyl alcohol is a highly flammable, colorless liquid with a characteristic odor, it belongs to potent narcotics, causing first excitement, and then paralysis of the nervous system

All brands of beer, wine, vodka, and all types of champagne sold in Russia contain ethyl alcohol.
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Indeed, what's so bad about voluntarily drinking poison?
Well, you can't fix a hunchback with a grave.
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