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Listen, kid.
You need to learn my nickname well before you start typing. Because you're not ready to butcher it yet.
I'm not "playing around." I'm playing. My nickname is "shnurov," and it's known to practically all serious online players in Heroes 4. That's just how it is.
I only play Heroes 4 because I prefer to play one game well rather than several games poorly.
I only know of two truly versatile players. First, there's CragHack, who was in the top 3 (or even the top 1) in at least all versions of Heroes except maybe Heroes 5. And DVStranger – a very strong player in Heroes 3 and 4. The rest are more superficial.
Your spelling irritates me because it's uncomfortable to read you. And that's what I said. Moreover, in 80 percent of cases, such spelling is a sign of a failing student who likes to "play around" after school, or simply a low level of intelligence in the writer. And neither of those types of people interests me as a conversational partner.

I'm not some kid. And I don't waste time like that. I offered to play. If I messed up, just say so. But you're just criticizing my grammar. Lots of words, little action. I also have work and a bunch of other things to do, and I'm here "begging" a "super-duper" player to play.

Heroes 4 is a strategy game, not an RPG. Just run around with your hero and kill everyone.

Personally, I've played all versions of Heroes.

And believe me, I can appreciate each part for what it is.

This is primarily CragHack, which was in the TOP-3 (or even TOP-1) in at least all versions of Heroes except for the fifth.

Could you provide some historical background: was CragHack an offline or online player? Because if he was an online player, how could he be considered the #1 in Heroes 3, as was said about Antal, and then about the Baevs, when there's no multiplayer in Heroes 1.

It would be even better to play against him in several Tournaments, if he is, so to speak, still active.

Well, what did I say that was so bad? I just gave some advice, that's all. Want to talk about
Her4? Please. Here's what I liked:
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1. Lots of cool spells, like stealing all buffs, hypnosis (hypnosis in part 3 is weak, but here it's great), Hand of Death, etc.
2. Unlike part 3, units can cast spells, like mages, djinn, etc.
3. Caravan - no comment.
4. Lots of cool artifacts, like the Guardian Robe, Ring of Great Resistance, Halberd, Rune Axe, etc.
5. The ability to have multiple heroes in your army, not just one.
6. In the editor, the quest scripts look pretty good, better than in part 3.
7. Guild of Mages:
First, it's cheap.
Second, all Castles have 3 types of magic.
Third, the Guild of Mages at level 5 is good because when you enter a town, all magic is restored, instead of having to wait a day.
So, that's basically it. Now, what's not so good:
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1. Your units and enemy units (I mean warriors) can freely move around the map, but they can't capture Castles, mines, or dwellings. You kill a hero, capture all his Castles, and that's it for him. I've had 1000000 cases where I was weaker than the enemy, but knowing this trick, I always won.
2. As I already wrote, there's no Resurrect spell. It's just not there. Guardian Angel only works on strong units, Call of the Dead is not permanent, and summoning a corpse as a skeleton (or vampire, depending on the spell) doesn't happen where the corpse is, but near the caster. That's stupid; the skeleton will hobble to the enemy throughout the battle.
3. Having multiple heroes in a squad is good, but when there are 4 or 5, it's a complete mess.
4. The choice of what to build, like a vampire or a blowgunner, a griffin or a unicorn.
5. You can only play online; the AI is terrible and stupid.
6. Monsters grow every day, not once a week. This is very inconvenient.
7. Give the barbarians spells like in Heroes V; that would be better.
8. Campaigns. Remember the campaigns in Her3 SOD? All the campaigns were connected by a plot, not like each subsequent one is new. And they're not very interesting.
9. Some monsters are made terribly, for example, the Earth Elemental is AWFUL compared to Her3, and the Goblin Knight... well, what goblin in any game has been strong? They should have made something like... oh, the Black Legionnaire, and that would be a great match for the Champion of the Dark.
10. A barbarian hero can crush armies on his own. That's too much. They should have made it like in HerV, where the hero casts spells and can also attack with a sword.
11. Luck reduces damage - what is this nonsense? There was nothing like that in the first version of Heroes. And morale, whether it's there or not, is also a mess.

That's not everything, but those are the main points. If anyone remembers anything else, let them write it.

1) No one here needs to be given favors.
2) You should have read the rules before registering; there's a point about the actions of the administration. But in any case, if you really need it, I can take the time and go through all the rule violations in YOUR post point by point, with all the consequences that follow.
3) Try to keep your composure and not provoke others.

Yes, I completely forgot, I wanted to add something, but I got into an argument about it:

Cons:
-All heroes are the same, without special abilities - this is very boring and uninteresting. :(

-The same applies to morale. For example (I'm not sure exactly): 2 heroes: 1 - Life, 2 - Chaos, both have the same morale (combat spirit), but in battle, Life has -2, and Chaos has -4. On what basis?:confused:

-Uniformity of castles. All buildings (almost all) for all factions are built in the same place, it's very boring and monotonous.:cool:

-No spells: Flight and Dimension Door. Add them, and Life will become better.

P.S. Please don't criticize if you don't know how to criticize.

Okay, fine, the lack of special abilities is a drawback, but in the same Heroes III, in Tournaments, some heroes are penalized solely because of their special ability. And the progression in Heroes IV is much more interesting – with pure experience, you need 98 levels compared to 24 in Heroes III. And the classes are a great thing.
In my opinion, the most interesting skill system is in Heroes V.

What's the basis for that? Morale is subject to a certain rule: two heroes of different races in the same army incur a morale penalty. I don't remember exactly how it works right now, but if I'm not mistaken, two heroes of neighboring races deduct 2 morale points from each other, and if you add a third hero of a different race from your city to this army, this third hero receives a -5 morale penalty because he will not be adjacent to one of the two initial heroes. And if the races are completely opposite (e.g., undead and life), the penalty is -7, as far as I remember.
And doesn't Heroes III have morale penalties? Explanation for the "experienced player": mixing races always incurs a morale penalty!

This is not important in this game.

In Heroes IV, you can move around the map quite well.

The most interesting upgrade system in Heroes V. The main skill is level 3, and 3 additional skills are level 1. And there is a large variety of combinations. But here, there is just too much variety. And here, you can upgrade and upgrade, but it's monotonous.

I meant that morale in the third game is much more convenient and easier to understand than in the fourth. For example: all have +1, the second factions have 0, the third factions have -1, the undead have -1, and that's it.

Well, yes, of course, if you like playing monotonous games, then it doesn't matter to you, but I love variety.

Yeah, okay, take ballistas or water elementals into your squad and then you'll see.

In general, variety, variety, and more variety!!!!!!!

I meant that morale in 3 is much more convenient and understandable than in 4. For example: everyone is the same +1, 2 races are 0, 3 races are -1, undead are -1 and that's it. Tasty, cheap, convenient, absolutely peerless.

-no spells: fly and dimension door. Add them and life will be cooler.

Regarding the downsides:
-all heroes are the same, without special abilities—this is just completely boring and uninteresting.

Yeah, sure, take ballistas or water elementals in your squad and then you'll see.

In general, variety, variety and more variety!!!

-monotony of castles. All buildings (almost all) for all races are built in the same spot, completely boring, monotonous.

As I already wrote, there is no Resurect (restoration) spell, well, not in its pure form. Guardian angel only for strong ones, call of death is not forever, and raising a corpse as a skeleton (or vampire depending on the spell) raises it not where the corpse is but near the caster, which is stupid, this skeleton will limp toward the enemy the whole battle.

Having not 1 hero in a squad is good, but when there are 4 or 5, it's total nonsense.

.Campaigns. Well, remember the Her3 SOD campaigns, all campaigns are connected by plot, not like each next one is just new. And they aren't interesting at all.

10. Barbarian hero can smash armies alone, that's already overkill, make it at least like in HerV where the hero casts magic and can strike with a sword and that's it.

P.S. Huge request: please don't criticize if you don't know how to criticize.

I agree, the system is more interesting in the fifth game, but again – where did it come from? I’ll tell you – from the fourth.

Really!? As far as I remember (it's been a while since I played), in the third game, you could also lower morale to -3 – have you tried mixing 3-4 races?
What prevents you from studying the morale system in the fourth game – it doesn't work randomly either.

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What ballistae? What Velites? They play for a maximum of a week in the game – they are used to break through mines, etc., and for the initial leveling up. Are you going to take them to the final?
What to watch, the system – GM runner + level 4 (CD/Fen/Angel/Thunderbird) + boots/gloves (or both) + carts/oases/stables – you can run half the map (medium) in one turn!
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Life will become even more boring. Is it really interesting to play when you don't have to break through guards and so on, when you need to calculate everything clearly?
We vote for simplicity! Take the angel's wings and go!

Rather, it's a minus that all the heroes are basically the same, but that's a minor thing:)

That's why people have a brain in their heads. It's needed to think;)

I think the third game is more diverse?
Because there are upgrades!!! And more castles! And...and...I don't even know...as many as 4(!) schools of magic!!! That's cool!

:D do you like playing the game "find the trebuchet"?

Well, never mind with this resurrection, your prayers have been heard and it has been added to the mod (imo, it's a pity:) )
But what's wrong with Guardian Angel and Call of Death.
Guardian Angel is essentially an alternative form of resurrection, with the only difference being that it revives immediately, or rather, it doesn't let you die.
Turn on the game and see what they can do...at least 7 angels (or even less) under this spell, with about 6 charges, if there is a tactician in the army.
(Lars won't deny it, but in our tournament game, this squad defeated his entire army, practically single-handedly:) )
And as for Call of Death.
Let's imagine that it will work after the battle, i.e., all those we "resurrect" in this way will be preserved in the future.
And now let's remember that Call of Death can raise ENEMY troops. We get the following: we level up the mage of death to level 4 in his native magic, give him this spell, some initial army, and go ahead. Nothing can stop him anymore! Cool?

You just don't know how to cook them(s)
Believe me, it's better not to spend money on buying level 1 and 2 creatures, but to buy an additional hero – it will be much more useful;)

If we're talking about the basic version of the 4th game, then even here it's wrong. There are general storylines. At least the intersection of the campaigns about Goldot and Emilia. The first one has links to the second. So, the chronology is clearly observed. And there is no banal takeover of the world by demons/undead, the campaigns are selected to suit every taste: there is a love story, a knightly honor story, and a story about the rise of a queen (a rather large campaign) and so on.

And in conclusion, I will summarize the pluses and minuses that you gave to the 4th game.
Mainly, I got the impression that you like to run around the map, having a huge, powerful army, a pumped-up hero, a full book of the most overpowered spells, and not breaking through any neutrals – in other words, you like to feel like a "dad" on the map, I hope the game is at least with medium-level opponents:) ;)
And you probably don't like to come up with and plan, but just admire the variety of colorful pictures and monster models.
The 4th game turned out to be a little more difficult to master, so you listed everything that made the game more difficult as minuses, such as the "door of dimensions" or "flight":)
It seems to be well-argued:)

I already suggested we play:)
By the way, the castles are not the same; that's just a silly statement.
If you ask whether I've only played Heroes 4 or not... I started with Heroes 1 :) a long time ago. And I've seen Heroes 2 :) and I even know what Heroes 3 is :) and I've played a little bit of Heroes 5...:rolleyes:
Shall we play?;)

Shurick !!!
An offline playthrough of Heroes 4 is currently underway; it's a shame that there are only 4 days left, and you won't have time to complete it. But you can try to play the map at a leisurely pace and compare the results.
shnurov_hl, I don't think he will participate, but you can compare the results with mine. I'm sure that shnurov_hl's results would be no worse.
tournament
P.S. My experience is much more modest than yours. 2 years, but I haven't played for the last 6 months. After the break, this is my first tournament. Beat everyone and I'll brag about it.