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#904
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I'm also curious why you didn't identify this connection yourself if you were actually investigating this clue. I found it in literally 5 minutes.
I wasn't really looking for this clue. I've explained why several times in the thread.
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Is a connection specifically from the article about wood carving to Eddie Dean really necessary? This is no longer part of the wiki chain; it's a direct quote from the quest.
Okay. Let's assume so. The Master searches for "wood carving," goes to the wiki page, doesn't find any names, and then thinks: "Aha, that character in that book liked to carve wood! I should make it a clue!" That doesn't happen. There should be a connection to the article about wood carving.
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#905
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Drakkosha
In reality, this chain of connections is not very strong. Mainly because of Batman, to whom approximately 95% of the clues easily and naturally lead, since Batman is a very popular character with an extensive mythology. Plus, I would start attracting attention by creating similar chains, lol. I'm a bit of a comedian, but not crazy.
Well, the Master couldn't have been unaware of Batman's popularity. The chain of connections clearly works in both directions. I'm not saying that the Master necessarily had to check all possible alternative chains, but rather, the question is whether he could have provided such an easy clue in the very first night.
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I wasn't really looking for this clue. I've explained why several times in the thread.
Could you please provide a link? I don't remember it offhand.
Nebo
Okay. Let's assume. The Master enters "wood carving" into the search, goes to the wiki page, doesn't find any names, and then thinks: "Aha, that character in that book liked to carve wood! I should make it a clue!". That doesn't happen. There should be a connection from the article about wood carving.
Are you sure that doesn't happen? What's the problem with remembering a character's trait? Why must there necessarily be a direct link from wood carving to Eddie? It's the same as saying that the wiki chain must be directly linked to our "quanta" through links, rather than pointing to a specific moment from them.
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#906
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Could you please provide a link? I don't recall it offhand.

/post/1257583/

/post/1257749/

It was evident from the very first day. Later, I repeated this argument several times. Then, I even doubted whether it was evidence at all. Only after Yashur's resurrection did I become convinced that yes, it is indeed evidence. With the clue about the baby, it becomes much easier. It's either Mordred or Eddie.
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Are you sure it doesn't exist? What's the problem with remembering a character trait? Why must there necessarily be a direct reference from the carving to Eddie? That's like saying that the wiki chain should be directly linked by links to our quests, rather than pointing to a specific moment in them.
We can ask the Master for clarification.
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A few questions for the Master: 1. If Jones sends the kraken after player X, is Jones considered to have visited player X? 2. Does the sinking of a ship and a regular kill by the kraken appear the same? 3. If the kraken uses the ship-sinking ability on player X, player Y visits player X, and player Y is healed/protected/guarded. What will happen to player Y?

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Maybe Ples was actually Tye. What do you think?
Yeah... They're sitting in chat on the 2nd night, thinking, "Guys, Mold is very likely a healer, so let's not kill him or block him and let him use resurrection. Just for laughs!". :D:D:D P.S. If this is really the case, then you and Revan need to be executed, you know?

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).

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Evil Lizard
A few questions for the Master:
1. If Jones sends a kraken after player X, is Jones considered to have visited player X?
2. Does sinking a ship and a regular kraken attack look the same?
3. If a kraken uses the ship-sinking ability on player X, and player Y visits player X while player Y is being healed/protected/guarded, what happens to player Y?

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Aha... These guys are sitting in chat on the second night, thinking, "Guys, Mold is very likely a healer, so let's not kill him or block him, and let him use resurrection peacefully. Just for laughs!".

P.S. If this is really the case, then you and Revan should be executed, understand?
1. No
2. They are different
3. He will survive
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#909
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3. He will survive.
And in the case where Norrington is guarding, Norrington will die, is that correct?

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
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Evil Lizard
A few questions for the Master:
1. If Jones sends the Kraken after player X, is Jones considered to have visited player X?
2. Does sinking a ship and a regular Kraken attack appear the same, or are they different?
3. If the Kraken uses the ship-sinking ability on player X, and player Y then visits player X, healing/protecting/guarding them, what happens to player Y?

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Aha... So, these Mafia members are sitting in the chat on the second night, thinking, "Guys, Mold is very likely a healer, so let's not kill him or block him, and let him use his resurrection ability. Just for laughs!"

P.S. If this is really the case, then you and Revan should be executed, understand?

Perhaps the Mafia felt guilty towards you and decided to give you a chance to be resurrected out of personal sympathy for the endangered lizard species.
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#911
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2. They are different.
So, today it was an ultimate move, gentlemen, not just a kill. A simple kill was displayed as a sudden disappearance, but today it was clearly a bloodbath in the newspaper...

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

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#912
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Actually, I used to think that the Kraken's ultimate ability was a devastating attack that no one except a fully upgraded Jones and the monkey could survive. But in reality, it doesn't seem that scary anymore. It has almost the same chance of missing as a regular attack. But if the Kraken hasn't used its ultimate ability yet, it's still dangerous. There aren't many players left, and no one wants to sit around doing nothing for who knows how long.
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AstralLein
Perhaps the Mafia felt guilty towards you and decided to give you a chance to be resurrected out of personal sympathy for the dwindling lizard race.
Yeah, the main lizard-hater of Hv, Mr. Heroist, was eaten alive by his conscience... :D:D:D

Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно.
Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится.

(Закон сохранения).

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#914
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/post/1257583/

/post/1257749/

It was the very first day. Then I repeated this argument several more times. Later, I even doubted whether it was a clue at all. Only after Yashur's resurrection did I become convinced that yes, it is indeed a clue. It’s much easier with the baby clue. It’s either Mordred or Eddie.
Well, in reality, this looks more like lazy excuses for not trying to solve the puzzle than something that actually seemed very confusing to you. Look, I didn't suddenly remember about Croc's killer; I just searched "killer on the swamps" in the wiki search – and the very first result is Croc's killer. I checked if it forms a chain with the Quent – it perfectly matches Koschina. Therefore, there arises a suspicion that either you didn't try to solve it at all, since you didn't even check through a simple search, or you deliberately pretended that it was too difficult for you.
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You can ask the Master for clarification.
Okay. Master, question: if a connection with the Quent is found in a wiki article, does there have to be a specific link from it to the next link in the chain, or is it enough that there is a connection with the article itself? For example, on the previous page, the article about Eddie Dean mentions wood carving, which is also present in Sky's Quent.
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#915
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Evil Lizard

Yeah... these guys are sitting in chat for 2 nights, thinking, "Guys, Mold is very likely a healer, so let's not kill him or block him and let him use resurrection. Just for laughs!".

P.S. If this is really true, then you and Revan should be executed, you know?

Who said they knew Tiy after the first night?
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Frag, please calm down. There is no evidence against me in the newspaper, I swear, I'm 146% sure.
А, вот почему.

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#917
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Well, it looks more like lazy excuses for guessing the clue than something that actually seemed very unclear to you. Look, I didn't suddenly remember about Croc's killer; I just typed "swamp killer" into the wiki search – the very first result is Croc's killer. I checked if it forms a chain with the Quent – it works perfectly with Koshina. Therefore, there's a suspicion that you either didn't guess it at all, since you didn't even check it with a search, or you deliberately pretended that it was too difficult for you. Okay. Master, question: if a wiki article contains something that matches the Quent, does there have to be a specific link to the next link in the chain, or is a connection to the article itself sufficient?
I don't see anyone else trying to guess it except Koshina herself. So, no need to talk about lazy excuses.
I just typed it into Google search...
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#918
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Evil Lizard
So, today it was an ultimate ability, gentlemen, and not just a kill. A simple kill was displayed as a sudden disappearance, but today it was clearly a bloodbath in the newspaper...
Everything is spoiled by Jones' ultimate ability. With it, you can't just make a simple disappearance, because the battle starts anyway, and the main focus of the post is on it. Let's take a closer look:

1. Jones' ultimate ability has top-tier initiative, and that's why its description starts right after the description of Tia's ultimate ability, which can't be used in the heat of battle. And essentially, the whole post is a description of Jones' ultimate ability, which is similar to a movie.
2. The Kraken's ultimate ability is essentially a replacement for a normal attack with the same initiative. In theory, it should have a striking description. Because even Tia's ultimate ability takes up a pretty large chunk of text, while Jones takes up almost the entire post. We have two kills with a normal description. One of them refers to Jones. The other to the Kraken. And I don't see anything similar to a third ultimate ability. Besides, Mold dies without a fight, which is similar to the Kraken's normal attacks from the early nights.
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