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saneok
oh, a 131 timer with 10:5:1 will be perfect for us.

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Al Feyn
Write what timers, in your opinion, should be used.
I suggested to my opponents to add to the starting timer as many minutes as the number of days the Overlord lasted.
True, lately I've gotten used to playing without adding extra time, but I notice that I sometimes need a pause to think through my move better, so about 30 seconds per day of the Overlord should be added.
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saneok
A tower with a library and a Necromancer is generally stronger than any castle that also has a Necromancer, on Hero Level Plus.
By the way, if anyone has ideas for a template pool, feel free to share them.
It's much easier to do this in HotA now. Wick released some good stuff before leaving (not top-tier, but definitely decent).
And Antares is a much better mirror than Diamond. And Nostalgia with its railroads works great. And Boomerang is better than CM.
I'd replace them without hesitation, but none of this works on SoD (plus, SoD draws roads differently than HotA, more like Censored - profanity is prohibited).
I racked my brain and couldn't come up with anything better than this pool of 9 maps. But maybe I just missed something (I've studied Panic, Balance, Skirmish, and 8x8a, so don't suggest those).
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Of course, I was talking about the XL+U templates, of which there are as many as 4, where Tower with Library rebuilding is consistently top-5, ahead of Inferno, Fortress, Citadel, and Castle. In trades with the other towns, there wouldn't be a direct wow rebound either; for example, a red Tower against a blue Conflux on 6lm could have a minimal positive rebound, or even be at 0.
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caliban
Of course, I was talking about the XL+U templates, of which there are аж 4.
In principle, I tried to group the templates into thematic groups.
This grouping is also the only known justification for why this particular pool was chosen (to represent different options).

This is debatable.
I myself am not thrilled with this pool, but I honestly studied the statistics of recent tournaments and the dynamics of the popularity of different templates, and before settling on this option, I personally re-checked that these 11 are the best that exists in SoD.
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Dima Surmay
your message gave me an idea, because particularly principled players saving time, and those who think 150 rubles a month is pocket change - they can create a second account, pay for it and give it to their opponents to play with.
I think this is wrong. If my opponent tells me that for them OH is expensive and the issue is purely about money (you never know someone's situation), then I'm ready to buy it for them. But if my opponent starts evading, making up some excuses, yet is willing to play at someone else's expense - I'm principled and not ready to help or accommodate such a person.
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Though personally, I think that with OH there should also be a different timer for the game.
I have thought a lot about this issue. But I believe that as long as OH is not a mandatory part of the HX rules, it's too early to change the timer for OH. In general, I like the idea of adding one minute for each day of OH. Usually OH costs up to 117, and the extra 7 minutes (14 for both) is perfectly fine.
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Al Feyn
I honestly studied the statistics of recent tournaments and the popularity trends of different map templates, and before settling on this option, I personally double-checked that these 11 are the best available in the SoD.

I agree, nothing needs to be changed here, and haggling over groups of templates seems unnecessary; a simple vote is better.
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Dirty_Player
I don't think this is right. If an opponent tells me that owning an expansion pack is expensive for them and the issue is purely about money (who knows what situation a person is in), then I'm willing to buy it for them. But if an opponent starts making excuses and coming up with reasons, but is willing to play with the expansion pack at someone else's expense, then I'm fundamentally not willing to help or accommodate them.
Actually, it's the opposite: in a tournament where owning an expansion pack isn't mandatory, the one who is accommodating is the one who agrees to play with the expansion pack, even if it's at their own expense. And when the opponent later says something like, "So you're willing to play with the expansion pack at someone else's expense," then there's no need to make concessions to such people.
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At first glance, the simple idea of adding 1 minute for each day of OH seems very promising. I am inclined to include it in the Regulations.
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Dirty_Player
If an opponent tells me that owning an "Overlord's eXpansion" is too expensive for them and the issue is purely financial (given that everyone has different circumstances), I'm willing to buy it for them.
But for me to choose the best tournament rules, I need not just one Dirty Player to be willing to do that for his opponent, but

a clear and reasonable solution that can be applied in 100% of cases.

You might do that, but someone else might not only refuse to do so but also write on the forum something like "here we go again..." and keep bringing it up for the next two years, regardless of the context.
So, sorry – your personal willingness to go the extra mile for your opponent is unlikely to help the overall cause.
However, if you (or someone else) are willing to help the tournament as a whole (and not just this one) without unnecessary fuss (this doesn't preclude public expressions of gratitude), I know how to organize it. Write to me in a private message, and we'll discuss it.
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Dima Surmay
actually, it's the opposite: in a tournament where OH is not mandatory, the one who agrees to play with OH, even if it's at their own expense, is making the concession. And when the opponent later says something like, "So you're willing to play at someone else's expense," there's no need to make concessions to such people.
The fact that OH hasn't been implemented by default in SOD tournaments yet is not just a small concession, but a huge one for those who don't want to play with OH. After reading posts like this, you feel like adding it to the rules right away. Because, roughly, about 90% of users with OH play it.
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Dirty_Player
... in percentage terms, roughly 90% of users play with SoD.
I think this is a rough error based on your own opinion and the opinions of your social circle.
I would like to see the source of information.
According to my estimates (also approximate), if we only consider SoD, the proportion should be closer to the golden mean, about ~62/38.
It may be higher for SoD, but the chance that it's more than 75% is very small.
My source of information is that topic with the poll and discussions in private messages.
Based on them, I can confidently say that even among the list of contenders for the winners' bracket, not one Dima Surmey prefers to play without SoD; there are even top players who would prefer to play without SoD but don't want to publicize their real position
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Dirty_Player
The fact that OH has not yet been introduced by default in SoD Tournaments is not just a large, but a huge concession to those who do not want to play OH. After reading posts like this, there is a desire to write it into the rules immediately. Because in percentage terms, off the top of my head, about 90% of users play with OH.

If you think that this is a huge concession on your part, has anyone even said thank you for it? I think if such a thing happened, it was probably only a few people, and that's how you can "pay" for OH. As for the rest, there's no need to do them a favor if they aren't asking for it. Because they believe they have the right to play without OH.
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Al Feyn
I think this is a gross mistake based on my own opinion and the opinions of my circle of friends.
I would like to see the source of information.
According to my estimates (also just an estimate), if we only consider SoD, the ratio should be closer to the golden mean ~62/38,
it may be higher for Rampart, but the chance that it will be more than 75% for Rampart is extremely small.
My source of information is that very topic with voting and discussions in private messages,
based on which I can confidently say that even among the list of contenders for the winners' bracket, not one Dima Surmay prefers to play without Rampart; there are even top players who would prefer to play without Rampart, but they don't want to publicize their real position.
Only 9 people voted for the option strictly without Rampart. (I’m not claiming anything, but it seems that some of them now play with Rampart). The rest are willing to play with Rampart to varying degrees. Among those who play with Rampart, I don't know anyone who was disappointed and said that it was complete nonsense.
Dima Surmay
If you think this is a huge concession on your part, has anyone ever thanked you for it? I think if something like this happened, it was probably only a few times, and these are the ones you could pay off to use Rampart.
People are just wired that way – they don't know how to say thank you. But when Rampart is introduced by default, they will definitely complain about it. I am sure.
It's not just about me. I know several cases where someone offered/bought Rampart for an opponent.
Dima Surmay
And others shouldn't do favors if they aren't asked. Because they believe they have the right to play without Rampart.
But what should be done with those who believe they have the right to play without restructuring? Or without a chess timer? How about their hurt feelings?
If you remember, there were many opponents of various innovations, but in the end, people were forced to accept them; no one died. And now, no one plays without these options anymore. The same will happen with Rampart; it’s just a matter of time.