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[SIZE] "RUSSIAN TITLE" - "ENGLISH NAME", where: SIZE is the map size (can be T, S, M, L, XL); RUSSIAN TITLE is the full name of the map in Russian; ENGLISH NAME is the full name of the map in English;
An example of how to format the first post is as follows:
Title: Example Map Map name: Example map Map type: Multiplayer Arena Two-level map: yes Number of players: 8 Size: Medium Map author: Random Map Generator Map description: This is a random map based on the S1-10P2-8Z8K2 template, created with the following parameters: size - 0, Dungeon - with, number of players - 3. Initial value - 1204384573.
Recently, there have been discussions on the forum that old maps were posted in the section, and people who played them were disappointed. I don't see any problem with old maps, but if confusion is possible or it is inconvenient for someone, why not create a poll? Also, atlant108 noted that sometimes it is difficult to find information about what type the map belongs to: single player, multiplayer, campaign.
I suggest revising the principles of formatting topic titles with maps, equipping them with important information and removing unnecessary details. As an additional option, you can create new sub-sections in the maps section.
What are we talking about here? Let's go through the survey items.
Change title: add map type This is clear. It applies to single player/multiplayer/campaigns.
Change title: add number of players It's kind of a sub-item of the previous item. Instead of a simple "multiplayer" label (or similar short one), there will be a specific number of players, indicating teams. This will make it easier to search for specific multiplayer maps.
Change title: add date of map creation This way, old maps can be filtered out. However, there are few old maps, and in ~95% of cases this tag will simply equal the date of the topic creation...
Change title: add map author An alternative to the previous item (that is, they will not be used simultaneously; there is no point). Not to filter out old maps, but immediately indicate the main author. Those who have played old maps by this author will immediately understand what's what.
Change title: remove English name of the map In my opinion, it's time to do this. These things lengthen the title and don't carry any semantic load. Of course, for originally English-language maps, this name remains (there is no Russian version). But there are very few of them.
Change title: remove map size A more controversial item, but worth considering. Usually, the type of map is more important than the size when searching, and keeping a zoo of tags is also not very good.
Add sub-sections: sub-sections by map type An alternative to item 1. Instead of new labels, introduce sub-sections and search for maps of the desired types based on them. Perhaps that would be more convenient.
Add sub-section: sub-section "old" maps An alternative to item 3. It can be combined with item 7, but rather they are alternatives to each other (too heterogeneous division into sub-sections). If you vote for this item, immediately suggest dates (for example, "maps up to 2010 inclusive").
Add sub-section: sub-section "other people's" maps Maps that are uploaded to the forum not by the author of these maps, but by another person. In principle, such an option is possible.
I created a poll specifically within this section because it seems to have the most maps on the forum. It is unlikely that these changes will be needed in other sections.
Well, that's about it. Let's vote.
If possible, I suggest merging the 3 map sections into 1, as 3 maps fall on 2 adjacent sections.
In most cases, the map author is the same as the topic author, meaning they are listed separately below the title.
Антон Туров
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I'd like to share my thoughts on the topic. I agree with the author: these innovations are only relevant for the Tribes of the East section, as there are few maps for the other factions, and it simply doesn't make sense. Now, let's go through each point:
1. Change the title. I'm all for it. If the title includes the map type – Multiplayer, scenario, campaign – it will simplify the search.
2. Add the number of players. This will also add clarity. Sometimes, you specifically look for a map with a certain number of players.
3. Points 3 and 4 are not needed in the title because they are already in the map description (I suggest adding the map creation date to the description – there isn't such a field yet).
4. Remove the English title. I agree, but leave it in the description (for our international colleagues).
5. Remove the map size, but leave it in the description.
6. Add a sub-section by map type. This is possible. It will make it easier to find, but then the map type in the title should be removed to avoid duplicates. If I had to choose between 1 and 7, I would choose 7 – it's better and clearer.
7. Yes, it would be nice to add a sub-section for old maps – up to and including 2010.
And also, it would be good to add a new sub-section: maps that won contests. All winners from the entire forum period (2006-2017) could be added to it
Справедливость превыше всего, но милосердие превыше справедливости (Ольга Брилёва)
Ment
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If possible, I suggest combining 3 sections with maps into 1, since 3 maps fall on 2 adjacent sections.
Well, this isn't necessarily required. Yes, there are almost no maps there, in other sections, but here's the problem: people who play the original game do still show up. And for them, such a combination would be counterintuitive (that is, 99% of the maps they try to download will be for the wrong version). But, if many people express the same opinion, we can think about it.
Points 3 and 4 are not needed in the title, as they are in the description of the map itself (I suggest adding the date of its creation to the map description - there is no such item yet)
Hmm, that's possible. But it's not difficult, plus you need to understand that you can already add any amount of information to the map description in the first post. At the discretion of the topic/map author.
And also, it would be nice to add a new subsection: maps that won contests. All winners for the entire forum period (2006-2017) can be added to it.
Interesting idea. If we decide to implement point 8, we can create such a section at the same time.
You, Ment, must be reading my mind:eek: - I was just thinking about asking the moderators about this the other day. It is definitely necessary to introduce three sections (or even four).
Sections:
1. Multiplayer maps
2. Single-player - scenario
3. Single-player - campaigns
And as an option, another section (personally, it would be convenient for me, probably... I don't know how it is for the others):
4. Map-mods. That is, if a map is also a mod, then let it be in a separate section, but it would probably be better to require mapmakers to indicate this in the first post.
... И древний лес, роскошен и печален, Блистает там воздушностью прогалин. Но между кедров, полных тишиной, Расщелина по склону ниспадала. О, никогда под бледною луной Так пышен не был тот уют лесной...
AstralLein
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! True. But in my opinion, whether it's a mod or a map should be stated in the description.
Here is an example of my first post:
Title: Example Map
Map name: Example map
Map type: Multiplayer Arena
Two-level map: yes/no
Number of players: 8
Number of teams: 8
Size: Medium
Map idea: Original/Remake
Map creator: GSC/Nickname
Map description: This is a random map based on the S1-10P2-8Z8K2 template, created with the following parameters: size - 0, dungeon - with, players - 3. Initial value - 1204384573.
... И древний лес, роскошен и печален, Блистает там воздушностью прогалин. Но между кедров, полных тишиной, Расщелина по склону ниспадала. О, никогда под бледною луной Так пышен не был тот уют лесной...
Here's an example of the first message from me: Title: Example Map Map name: Example map Map type: Multiplayer Arena Two-level map: yes/no Number of players: 8 Number of teams: 8 Size: Medium Map idea: Original/Remake Map creator: GSC/Nickname Map description: This is a random map based on the S1-10P2-8Z8K2 template, created with the following parameters: size - 0, dungeon - with, players - 3. Initial value - 1204384573.
I mentioned this above, so I didn't write it here, but in general, yes, this should be included if the maps and mods aren't moved to a separate section. Creating three sections would be ideal. Of course, you could limit it to two: 1. Multiplayer 2. Single-player (single scenarios and campaigns)
... И древний лес, роскошен и печален, Блистает там воздушностью прогалин. Но между кедров, полных тишиной, Расщелина по склону ниспадала. О, никогда под бледною луной Так пышен не был тот уют лесной...
AstralLein
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The campaigns section is convenient; otherwise, it's easy to get lost.
1) Change the title: add the map type Definitely yes! 2) Change the title: add the number of players I agree, this is an important point. It will definitely make it easier to find maps. 3) Change the title: add the map creation date There is no point in changing the title, but it would be worth adding it to the description.
4) Change the title: add the map author It is better to leave it in the description.
5) Change the title: remove the English name of the map Remove it from the title, but it is better to leave it in the description.
6) Change the title: remove the map size It is worth removing it from the title, but it must be in the description, and there should be a single standard for indicating the size.
7) Add subcategories: subcategories by map type (alternative to point 1. Instead of new tags, introduce subcategories and search for maps of the desired types based on them. Perhaps this will be more convenient. If you have to choose, 7 is preferable.
8) Add a subcategory: a subcategory for "old" maps Which map should be considered old? Perhaps 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010 inclusive.
9) Add a subcategory: a subcategory for "foreign" maps It doesn't make sense, as the author will be indicated in the description.
Okay, I will also take your opinion into account...
I think so, although the rules created by Lux in tenebris (/topic/7514/) are a bit outdated (even though the message there is from me, he was the one who wrote them), but I don't see much point in changing them. The problem with the forum is in the categories. If they existed, no sections would be needed.
In general, the ideal option for the topic title is: Map type (single player/campaign/multiplayer) - Map name in the original language of the map - Map size as a single letter - Map author
For example: Scenario: Journey [L] - Dyrman
If you remove the sections, it would look like this: Game version - Map type (single player/campaign/multiplayer) - Map size as a single letter - Map name in the original language of the map - Map author
Ment
AstralLein
