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Scouts
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Hunters
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Mercenary Archers
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And who will be on slots 2, 6, and 7?
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Dear moderators, please delete this message if necessary, but I can’t stay silent – I’m fed up: I don’t understand people who, in their message, quote someone else’s message that is half a page long just to leave a smiley or one or two words (this applies not only to this topic).
... И древний лес, роскошен и печален,
Блистает там воздушностью прогалин.
Но между кедров, полных тишиной,
Расщелина по склону ниспадала.
О, никогда под бледною луной
Так пышен не был тот уют лесной...
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And who will be on tier 2, 6, and 7?
Tier 2 - thieves:smile28:, I don't know what they will look like, ideally it won't be an assassin, personally I want to make it a ranged unit, but with two knives, or hang knives on a belt, the attacks will be combined (left hand from the crossbowman and right hand from the archer)
Tier 6 - ??? (most likely a ballista)
Tier 7 - maybe a thunderbird, but there is already one in NCF, if it is related to phoenixes and firebirds, then it is better to put it on level 6, and on level 7 you can make a dragon

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I don't think so, although both have a chaotic mess, in this screenshot you can see that the legs are not made of stone, like in the screenshot above, and the sword hilt is made of wood.
I think he was in the scenario.

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I think the Rangers should be in the stable, and the mercenaries in armor (swap the upgrades).
Maybe make the Thieves into Shamans?
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Will deserters be next? Will they add upgrades for them?
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Will deserters be next? Will they add upgrades for them?
Yes, one will be a townsman (cowardly guys with spears), and the upgrade will be a volunteer (a guy in tattered chainmail with a rusty helmet).

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I think rangers should be in the stable, and mercenaries in armor (swap the upgrades).
Maybe make thieves into shamans?
Ranger-swordsmen are a tribute to Stronghold 3 :D + rangers are always guys who keep order, so rangers got armor like city guards (well, also because guards in Dark Messiah are simultaneously archers and swordsmen).
I was thinking of making thieves into archers, but giving them a thin body without mega gauntlets.
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Swordsmen-hunters are a tribute to the game Stronghold 3
In my opinion, it’s better not to take anything from other universes; only Ashan!
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Tier 6 – ??? (most likely a ballista)
Tier 7 – maybe a Thunderbird, but there is already one in NCF. If it is related to phoenixes and firebirds, then it would be better to put it on level 6, and you can make a dragon for level 7.
A ballista could work, but not the one that appears on level 7 in one of the mods – it's some kind of nonsense; it’s just a repainted catapult:smile17:
Tier 7 – As far as I understand, there are no air dragons in the Free Cities at all, and in general, this is the only dragon that has never been shown in any of the games about Ashan (there are drakes for Elrath, Malassa, Arkath, Shalassa, and Silanna, but not for Ilat), but I think they still exist in Ashan anyway, so I don’t think we should associate them with the Free Cities, but as a separate neutral unit of the seventh tier, it will quite fit (like the golden dragon, which does not live in the cities of the Griffin Empire).
I also don’t think Thunderbirds are appropriate – they can rarely be found, and they usually appear as a result of being summoned from the world of spirits by some desperate mage.
We need to find more information about Ilat and potential units associated with him; at least priests of Ilat and Wind Swords already exist (by the way, Landsknechts among humans in H7 are actually Tier 7 – so why couldn’t Wind Swords be placed there? - although I am inclined to put them on level 6)
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we also know that the Crimson Mages of the Fallen House of Chimera have gone to the Free Cities (one of the four houses that ruled in the Seven Cities before the Silver League appeared in their place) http://ru.ashan.wikia.com/wiki/Серебряные_ГородаAdded after 4 minutes
the ballista could be similar to this one /post/1009374/
you can take a regular ballista as a basis and add a dwarf to it – they will shoot with a ballista, and fight in melee combat with a dwarf
... И древний лес, роскошен и печален,
Блистает там воздушностью прогалин.
Но между кедров, полных тишиной,
Расщелина по склону ниспадала.
О, никогда под бледною луной
Так пышен не был тот уют лесной...
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In my opinion, it's better not to take anything from other universes, only Ashan!

A ballista is okay, but not the one from level 7 in one of the mods – it's just nonsense, basically a recolored catapult:smile17:
Tier 7 – As far as I understand, there are no air dragons in the Free Cities, and in general, this is the only dragon that has never been shown in any of the Ashan games (there are drakes for Elrath, Malassa, Arkata, Shalassa, and Silanna, but not for Ilath), but I think they are present in Ashan anyway, so I don't think they should be associated with the Free Cities, but as a separate neutral unit of the seventh tier, they would be quite suitable (similar to the golden dragon, which does not live in the cities of the Griffin Empire).
I don't think Thunderbirds are appropriate either – they are rarely encountered, and they usually appear as a result of being summoned from the spirit world by some desperate mage.
We need to find more information about Ilath and potential units associated with him; at least Ilath's priests and Wind Blades already exist (by the way, the Landsknechts of the Humans in Heroes 7 are actually tier 7 – so why can't Wind Blades be there? – although I personally lean towards putting them on level 6)

We could have made Thunderbirds and put them instead of Phoenixes, and moved Phoenixes to the neutral units, but this is a mod for adding creatures, not replacing them...
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It would be possible to make thunderbirds and replace the phoenix with them, and move the phoenix to the neutral faction.
The phoenix is already neutral – we are talking about NCF, and this mod does not replace units from the city, meaning the phoenix remains a neutral unit.
And I already explained why it's not worth taking thunderbirds – we need those who actually lived in the free cities.
... И древний лес, роскошен и печален,
Блистает там воздушностью прогалин.
Но между кедров, полных тишиной,
Расщелина по склону ниспадала.
О, никогда под бледною луной
Так пышен не был тот уют лесной...
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if we create a ballista and give it the "guard-engineer" command, we'll have to set its movement speed to 0. Thunderbirds can be of any size and strength (in Heroes 6, it has been reduced to the size of a parrot), and they are summoned by mages and priests of Ilat.
The Spirit World is divided into elemental worlds, each of which is inhabited by special types of spirits and elementals, the most powerful of which are dragons. The thunderbird, known in the writings of the Seven Cities as the Roc, is one of the greatest spirits of Air. Being bound to the material world, the thunderbird causes storms and hurricanes with each flap of its mighty wings. Most often, birds are summoned by mages or priests of Ilat through a complex ritual, but sometimes a Roc egg appears on its own in the place where lightning strikes the ground.
The Free Cities are not such a religious faction that they should be given a dragon.
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I agree with you (a dragon isn't needed as a unit for the Free Cities, and if it is added, it shouldn't be tied to a specific city, but rather be an independent neutral unit).
And why is the speed 0? Won't it be possible to play the animation of the genome's movement?
... И древний лес, роскошен и печален,
Блистает там воздушностью прогалин.
Но между кедров, полных тишиной,
Расщелина по склону ниспадала.
О, никогда под бледною луной
Так пышен не был тот уют лесной...
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I'm focusing specifically on archers: the first is a ranger, I haven't come up with a name for the second, and the third will either remain a mercenary archer or become a Black Fang archer or something else. The second will have no penalty in melee combat, with high damage and the ability to shoot from above. The third will lose its sword but gain maneuverability + precise shot.

Could you please provide a description of all three archers?
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Could you please provide a description of all three types of Archers?
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Could you please provide a description of all three Archers?
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