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#73087 5/4/2025 3:43 PM UTC

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A Chip and Dale 3, or maybe it's not called the third part, but it's the one where they no longer threw boxes and other objects (as in the second part, and at enemies), but walked around with weapons.

If I had a console, I would have played it 25 years ago.

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#73088 5/4/2025 4:36 PM UTC

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Yes, this is a hack for another game about Vietnam. The Chinese simply replaced the characters with Chip and Dale, and there you have it – the third part) It's a meme game.

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#73089 5/4/2025 4:57 PM UTC

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For the reasons mentioned above, I don't really understand console games; thank me that I can at least tell the difference between Sonic and Mario. People just make a lot of memes about how difficult and impossible the game is.

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#73090 5/4/2025 5:22 PM UTC

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At the end of the 90s, I was given a Dendy, and a few years later a PS1. My computer appeared around 2005. Later, when I started earning some money on the side and saved up a bit, I bought myself a PS2 (by that time the PS3 was already out, but it was expensive, and I wanted a PS2). In high school, I also played on a PSP, which, by the way, managed to survive to this day in working condition, and I still have it. On it, you can run PS1 games (I actually replayed many of those games on the PSP later), so if I ever feel like reliving my childhood, I can do without emulators 😎

So, those were all the consoles I had; after that, I switched fully to PC. The guys from the neighboring entrance got computers a bit earlier, so I sometimes went over to their place, and before that, we used to go to internet cafes together, 100 rubles an hour. They had all sorts of Serious Sam, Max Payne, Quake, Counter-Strike, but we mostly played GTA Vice City, because we had a printed sheet of paper with cheats, so we could conjure up weapons and cars and go cause mayhem.

And on consoles, I played a lot of stuff — I didn't get into everything, of course, but some familiar games popped up here:

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Chip and Dale, Battle Toads Double Drаgoon, Power Blade 2, RoboCop, Mario

Familiar, played them. Surprised the famous tank game on Dendy isn't mentioned — I used to play that one even with my parents

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DuckTales, The Little Mermaid

Never played those, only watched the cartoons

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beat Felix the Cat on a Dendy emulator, and Yoshi's Island on a Super Nindend'ы emulator

Now that's unfamiliar to me

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got Battle Toads to the last level, almost all the way to that woman.

I played through that too, don't remember if I finished it or not, but I got pretty far — I remember the cutscene with her annoyed sprite after completing some level. Overall, I mostly played Double Dragon — those were simpler, and I beat 2, 3, and 4 multiple times without any trouble. Don't remember the first one; I think I never had it. As for 4, by the way, I'm not sure it wasn't some kind of hack either, because it differed stylistically and in combat, and overall was a whole lot more boring.

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A Chip and Dale 3, maybe it's not called the third part, but it's the one where they no longer threw boxes and other items (and in the second part, enemies too), but walked around with weapons.

I don't know about the third one, but the first two were fun — I remember there were all sorts of cartoon bosses, including ones from the cartoon, like that cat after the clockwork level. By the way, Chip and Dale could also throw each other, I think. I remembered how I played some platformer with a friend, where we goofed off by picking up the heroes and throwing them into the abyss — I think that was Chip and Dale, although you could mess around like that in other games too

And of course, speaking of the Dendy era, I'd also recall another classic. Years later, everyone started calling CS "Contra," but there are still those who remember that the real Contra is this.

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a video game is being played and the numbers 1p and ii are on the screen

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#73091 5/4/2025 6:31 PM UTC

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I just listed the games that I completed. But I've played many more games, of course. And, of course, I also played tanks! Contra and Final Mission seemed very difficult to me.

Chip and Dale could throw things at each other, but there was no point in doing so. The one losing a life wasn't the enemy, but the chipmunk being thrown. Unless I remember correctly, there was one instance in the second part where you had to throw the second chipmunk into a gap so that he could open a passage to throw a basketball.

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And in Battle Toads, I didn't even know that I was already almost at the end, and, as I understand from the video, passing that level is much, much easier than passing the level with the boss at the very end of Battle Toads Double Dragon. In Battle Toads Double Dragon, it was really tough. I only managed to pass it on the last square with all my remaining strength!

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#73092 5/4/2025 7:13 PM UTC

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There are many memes about how difficult and impossible Frogger is.

That's true, there are two parts, and one is significantly easier (in comparison). But the advantage of these games is that they have normal controls and understandable mechanics. There are games that are difficult precisely because of their flaws, etc., but they are less well-known.

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Serious Sam, Max Payne, Quake, Counter-Strike

What about MMOs?

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The famous tank game on Dendy wasn't mentioned.

If we start writing about that, then we'll have to write about the other 9998 games on that cartridge. It's a pity that there usually weren't even any single-screen arcades or puzzles. And I only played the first Mario, which was on those cartridges, but it turns out there were two more parts, and they were quite good. As for me, I'm familiar with all these games, but I didn't get to play them all. I didn't have DuckTales, but for some, it's a childhood game and a classic. But I played other Disney games (although some turned out to be ports from Sega), and The Little Mermaid can be completed in 20 minutes. I also played Felix, a fairly easy and enjoyable game. I don't remember Robocop, my neighbor had Power Blade, as well as Terminator. Tiny Toon is memorable, and there were many ninja games (not just Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles). I'd also like to mention Little Nemo: The Dream Master and Solomon's Key. But I definitely preferred beat 'em ups, like Double Dragon (the second one was, in my opinion, the best of the three) and especially Mighty Final Fight, which is really great. I played them a lot. And of course, my favorite, Bucky O'Hare, which was a pirated version, and that's why you died with the first hit. Perhaps this game developed my patience for difficulties in games.

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Contra

Which console is this from? There are three versions on Dendy, one regular, then Super and Force. I played all of them, but I liked the last one the most, despite the 10fps, which I only realized relatively recently. And of course, I played the Sega version of Contra, which is probably the best. One of the versions also has only one hit point, by the way, not three. I have such a cartridge at home right now, maybe my neighbor had this version when I was a kid.

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Yoshi's Island

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This one is unfamiliar.

Probably Yoshi's Island. I didn't play it either.

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And I didn't even know that I was already almost at the end in Battle Toads.

It's interesting how you got through the ice level, the snake, and especially the underwater level and the tower at the end

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#73093 5/4/2025 7:30 PM UTC

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Actually, these are all the consoles I had; after that, I switched to playing on a computer. The guys from the neighboring building had computers a little earlier, so I would sometimes go to their place. Before that, we would go to computer clubs together, paying 100 rubles per hour. They had games like Serious Sam, Max Payne, Quake, and Counter-Strike, but we mostly played GTA Vice City because we had a printed sheet of paper with cheat codes. We could conjure up weapons and cars and go cause mayhem.

Computer clubs were another wonder of childhood for the average kid in the 2000s, which I didn't experience. In the end, it's just stupid to pay 100 rubles per hour when you have a whole bunch of games at home (2/3 of which I don't even know what they are, because I didn't even open or install them). But everything listed above was definitely there; I even played the third Quake myself. But, if you believe my husband and some other acquaintances, there was something special about these clubs that I will never understand.

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I also remember that in the year it was released, my dad brought home a Morrowind disc and started playing it actively, and I somehow declared that it was some kind of ugly game. I'm a little embarrassed about that now, even after all these years.

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My husband just said that the computer club cost 15 rubles per hour for a computer and 5 rubles for a PlayStation. That's quite a markup from what you paid, Frag.

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#73094 5/4/2025 7:41 PM UTC

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For me, gaming clubs were more of a social gathering place. Although some people played solo, we usually gathered in groups because our computers were weaker than those in the clubs (some people didn't even have one). It was also cheaper and possibly more convenient to go at night. I didn't usually go, considering my age, and who would pay for me constantly, haha. But I did go a few times, even to different clubs. There were two main advantages: 1 - online games, 2 - new games. With the start of each "shift," almost everyone would play Counter-Strike, playing for about 3 hours, then they would split up to play other games or watch movies, and towards the end of the "shift," they would play Counter-Strike again. Then, the internet and MMOs appeared, which merged into one big and only advantage.

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some kind of ugly game. Even after years, it's a bit embarrassing.

Loken still says that now.

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#73095 5/4/2025 7:43 PM UTC

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Computer clubs were for those who had restrictions on playing at home, and whose parents didn't monitor where their children went after school. In my case, it was the opposite.
Of course, they were also for fans of Counter-Strike, but in high school, the computer lab started to become a competitor in that area.

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#73096 5/4/2025 8:09 PM UTC

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Everyone knows and understands Counter-Strike, so that’s what we played. If you had more knowledgeable friends, you could play something else. My brother used to work at a club, and they often played Diablo 2, some Warcraft (maybe it was Dota 1?), and Cossacks there. I also played all of those games once, but I didn’t get to play Alien vs. Predator. Then Ultima came out, but it’s not certain that anyone other than my brother played it. And yes, the main problem with single-player games was that you weren’t the only one using the computer, and by the time you came back to the club, your save could have been overwritten. That’s why my brother and his friends copied their Diablo characters to a flash drive and took them home. The rest could only be pitied and advised to play the same strategy games or something else. And it was good if the game had several save slots, like in GTA 3, which I was trying to play through at the club. Maybe I also saved over other people’s saves, although I already understood the implications of this and tried not to do it.

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computer science classroom.

We had NFS and strip chess 😏 I bet they came up with “fast chess/checkers” during computer science breaks

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#73097 5/4/2025 10:41 PM UTC

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I'm even curious how you managed to complete the ice level, the snake level, and especially the underwater level and the tower at the end.

Yes, it was all difficult! And I didn't even reach the tower at the end, although I was already close! I don't remember the ice level very well now. I played it around 1997. With the snakes, you have to experiment and memorize where they come from and where to jump; and, as far as I remember, the sounds of their movement help. There's a lot of difficult stuff there. For me, the most difficult part was the vehicles that you had to use to navigate obstacles, jump over barriers, and cross gaps between sections of the surface. It required lightning-fast reflexes! And you also needed to calculate everything!

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#73098 5/5/2025 12:30 AM UTC

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And in Battle Toads, I didn't even know I was almost at the end, and as far as I understand from the video, this level is much, much easier to complete than the final level in Battle Toads Double Dragon. Battle Toads Double Dragon was really tough. I only managed to beat it once, with my last bit of strength, on the very last attempt!

I don't even remember fighting her, maybe I just didn't get that far. I remember that you had to destroy her spaceship or something like that... In general, I didn't often get very far, I struggled for a long time during the scooter races, and in the end, everything was remembered and completed, but it took a certain amount of time, and of course, you need good reflexes.

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What about MMOs?

WoW was definitely one of them, but for some reason, no one played it, and I didn't either... Usually, everyone played GTA and CS, and less often other shooters.

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Which console is this? There are three versions for the Dendy, one regular, then Super, and Force. I played all of them, but I liked the last one the most, even though it had 10 FPS, which I only realized relatively recently. And of course, I played the Sega version of Counter-Strike, which might be the best. One of the versions also had one HP instead of three, by the way. I have a cartridge like that at home right now, maybe my neighbor had this version when I was a kid.

I had two cartridges, Contra 3 and Super Contra. I only played the Sega version at a friend's house because I didn't have a Sega myself, but not very often. As for which one was better, I'm not sure, but I definitely know that playing any of them with a friend was more fun, although playing alone wasn't boring either.

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Computer clubs are another childhood wonder of the average child of the 2000s that I didn't experience. In the end, just paying 100 rubles per hour when you have a whole ton of games on disks at home (2/3 of which I don't even know what they are, because I didn't even open or install them. But all of the above was definitely there, and I even played the third Quake myself). But, if you believe my husband and some other acquaintances, there was something special about these clubs that I will never understand.

You could say that it was mostly a pastime for a group of friends, as already mentioned. In general, I sometimes went alone, but usually, if we couldn't get together, I would just go home and play Dendy/PlayStation, whatever I had at the time.

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I remember that in the year it came out, my dad brought home a disk with Morrowind and started playing it actively, and I somehow said that it was some kind of ugly game. It's a little embarrassing now, years later.

Well, to be fair, when I looked at its screenshots after many hours in Oblivion, which is how I got to know the Elder Scrolls series, I didn't feel like playing it anymore. After all, the leap in graphics between the two games is quite significant.

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My husband just said that the computer club cost 15 rubles per hour for a computer and 5 rubles for a PlayStation. Frag seems to be overpriced.

I think it depends on the time and place. In our area, there were few of them, and they were very popular. It was rare for less than half of the computers to be occupied. I remember a couple of places, that's it. Moreover, they were located in not the most obvious places, one in a basement, the other in a community center (!).

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Computer clubs are for those who were restricted from playing at home, and for whom no one controlled where the child goes after school. I had the opposite. Well, also for fans of CS, of course, but in high school, the computer science class started to compete with it.

That's true, at first, I was only allowed to use the computer for an hour and a half, after which I was kicked off. And then I peeked at the password and started playing secretly when no one was home. In our school, computer science was a favorite subject for many because at the beginning, they gave us a task, and then the teacher would do her own thing for the rest of the lesson and not pay attention to the fact that we were all playing CS the whole time, and 5 minutes before the end, we would all quickly copy the solution from the nerds

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#73099 5/5/2025 12:57 AM UTC

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I don't remember much about the ice level right now.

If you played with warps, it's not surprising. Although, as a child, it was difficult to find them, except perhaps on the 3rd level in the races, you could accidentally end up there.

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I had two cartridges, Contra 3 and Super Contra.

Well, in the GIF, it seems to be the SNES version or something else.

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Still, the leap in graphics between the parts is quite significant.

It's a pity that the gameplay leap was in the opposite direction. Well, at least they improved the physics, that's the main plus.

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#73100 5/5/2025 6:44 AM UTC

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Graphony in Morrowind isn't that bad to begin with, and if you want, it can be easily fixed with mods, of which there are plenty on Nexus. But the gameplay is overrated. I started it twice and dropped it both times after about a third of the main quest, simply because I got tired of having to kill every single creature for an hour, because out of ten attacks with any weapon or magic, only two would hit. There are some good ideas, and I would like to see some of Morrowind's features in Oblivion or Skyrim, but the tedious combat system should be reworked, like in Daggerfall.

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#73101 5/5/2025 7:25 AM UTC

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That's exactly why my brother and his friends copied their characters from Diablo onto a flash drive and took them home. And the rest could only be pitied, and advised to play the same strategy games or something else. And it was good if the game had several save slots, like in GTA3, which I tried to play through at the club. Maybe I also saved on other people's saves, although I already understood the point of it and tried not to do it.

Did he also let you copy his saves, as a favor?

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You guys had some pretty cool computer labs. We didn't have anything on our computers except "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire," "Field of Wonders," and Mario, which wasn't even on all the computers and ran intermittently. There was no talk of CS or even strip chess. After completing the assignment in class, we had nothing to do.

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