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Yeah. It's a pity that there's a schism between KillAndAction and everyone else.

I'm against the Vip.rus idea in the part that concerns calculating the rating based on the last 4 tournaments and the formula itself.
I'm trying to convey my thought that the discussion should involve not just 2-3 people, but the majority of the community.
Dear HoM[M]ie, please clarify against whom "everyone" I am going. :confused:
Otherwise, please don't write things that aren't true...

Well, isn't it obvious that people don't care?) Therefore, it's impossible to have a discussion with the community. Unless you force people to participate. And by "everyone," I mean everyone who has posted in this thread.

I don't think anyone will intentionally express their opinion, but if we create a thread with an attached poll, people will easily vote.

I'm up for any kind of competition, except for a hunger strike. The ranking is essentially only needed for seeding in cup tournaments, so that the bracket is more or less balanced.

I vote for VIP to manage the ranking. I like his idea in general; we may disagree on the numbers, but I think we essentially agree.

Since we are already voting, I am FOR Vip's idea. Let him lead and follow the formula he proposes. As I mentioned before, I can provide technical assistance in maintaining the ranking if needed.

I will support Vip, because there are so few of us, and since someone has appeared who is willing to take on the task of calculating the rating, we should definitely support this initiative. Perhaps in the future, he will reconsider his decision and calculate the rating for more than 4 tournaments, but!!!! it is better to start now.
And then, efforts need to be made to make Vip's initiative official.

the thing is, maintaining a ranking doesn't require a specific person; the ranking will be calculated automatically after the introduction of an automated system for creating tournaments, confirming reports, etc., in Heroes of Might and Magic V. The ranking will be calculated by a machine, which offers only advantages.

regarding the duplication of the league system from the last four tournaments, my opinion is: apart from its current questionable relevance, there are no other advantages.

if, after discussion, we decide to base the ranking calculation on the last four tournaments, then we should also discuss the formula proposed by VIP.

my suggestion is: why reinvent the wheel?
it's no secret that the online community for Heroes of Might and Magic III is much more developed than for Heroes of Might and Magic V in many respects. So, we can simply take their formula for calculating the ranking in Heroes of Might and Magic III, which is outlined on the third page of this thread.

I didn't understand it back then – if a bot can manage the rating, why hasn't it been doing so yet? Let it use any formula. Personally, the rating itself isn't very important to me, but since someone (a VIP) came up with this initiative, I'm all for supporting it.

I didn't understand it back then – if an automated system can maintain the ranking, why hasn't this automated system been doing it yet? Let it use at least some formula.

I raised this issue with the Creator in January 2015, but at that time, he refused.
Now, permission has been granted to use an automated system. In order for it to work, I sent the Creator information about the report format, lists of factions, templates, and heroes. All that remains is to decide on the ranking formula. After that, everything can be put into action.
However, this has already been discussed in this thread, including information about the automated system from the Creator.
It feels like they haven't read the entire thread :D

Is the creator the owner of this website? So, to make a decision like implementing a ranking system, his consent is required?
In Heroes of Might and Magic III, they obtained his consent (or so I understand – it was a while ago), and that's why they maintain the ranking?
And we've been trying to maintain an up-to-date ranking since January 2015, but haven't, because we didn't have his consent?
I must be missing something...

In my opinion, Vip is great for thinking about this and posting his scoring system. A rating is definitely needed. As for counting all the years... I think it wouldn't hurt, but who will do it? Starting a new one would be perfectly fine. As for automating the scoring, I think it's a quite necessary and convenient thing). Regarding the League rating — it's irrelevant here. A League is a league, and HeroesWorld is a separate rating. Just like on HeroesPortal, there is its own rating. Why not indeed take a working system from the third game. In my opinion, a perfectly good idea.

Is the creator the owner of this website? So, to make a decision like maintaining a ranking, his consent is required?
In Heroes of Might and Magic III, they obtained his consent (as far as I understand, a long time ago), and that's why they maintain the ranking?
And we've been trying to maintain an up-to-date ranking since January 2015, but we haven't, because we didn't have his consent?
I guess I'm missing something...

The creator needs to implement a system for automatically registering the results of matches (this system is what allows the ranking to be calculated automatically in Heroes of Might and Magic III).
P.S. How to calculate it is irrelevant to me.

Thank you all for your support!
Soon, I will calculate the rating for the first tournament that concluded this year and will continue to maintain it according to my system, even if it's unofficial (although I received the Creator's blessing to do so).

Where did everyone get the idea that I'm going to calculate the rating for the last 4 tournaments? I already agreed to calculate the rating for all completed tournaments; the only thing that might be a point of contention is the previous rating, which I will disregard.

At that time, I didn't understand – if an automated system can maintain the ranking, why hasn't this system been doing it yet?

Here's an important clarification: the automated system cannot calculate the ranking for tournaments that have already been played or are currently being played. If it isn't specifically modified for this purpose, which is not a simple task, of course.

I read the forum, but I didn't delve into the details. Try creating a separate rating for each player. In any case, "old" players shouldn't be ranked higher in the current rating than "active" players (if a player, for example, played 2 years ago), because it's impossible to determine their current strength. Ideally, there should be two ratings (as was done in RTA): a current rating with a gradual (rather than a sharp, as in the League) decrease in the rating of inactive players, and an "all-time" rating where players' ratings are calculated based on their wins in all tournaments. I understand that the second option will only be interesting to enthusiasts, but in general, create both options and show how they would look in the end. For current tournaments, Vip's rating is quite suitable.