Mafia 101. Disputed Island — Mafia

Злобный Ящур

10 years ago

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In general, after reading all this, I came to the conclusion that there are no facts, and there probably won't be any until the "duplicates" of the roles die out. And without facts, I won't accuse anyone.

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10 years ago

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Gur was having fun with some weed, and Ment was most likely isolated because, after Baba Nyura's advances towards Uran, it was written that Ment ended up in a similar situation – meaning he was also being harassed. Zero tried to kill someone, but the target was healed. As a second action, he recruited – successfully.

“You know, I feel really uneasy. I feel like something is wrong inside me. It's like I'm burning from the inside!”
I immediately suggested that he seek help from a doctor, to which he replied with a sharp refusal. “Ah, I knew I should have used protection…,” he said and went back to his worries.

I don't quite understand what this is. Master, does the newspaper give any hint about the result of the isolation? Like, did someone visit a man or a woman?

Someone tried to escape from the infected deep into the jungle, but they ran into someone they definitely didn't expect to see there.

A date with a maniac, most likely. If so, then someone's physical defense failed.

“He saved her for the last moment, apparently sensing that things would turn out this way. Now she will be useful to him.”

I agree with Drakoshka about this. It seems the detective has become the second second mafia member. It's hard to say anything about the first mafia; it seems like there's no information about them. They might have tried to recruit someone who couldn't be recruited, or the recruitment might have been thwarted by first aid. They might have failed to kill someone because of natural defense. The option of blocking or isolating a mafia member is definitely out, because then these actions wouldn't have been displayed. Skipping a turn, like mana in the previous mafia game, is pointless, considering the above, plus consciously not going for recruitment on the first night is not a very good move. Therefore, Ment and Gur are not mafia members, because there is an attack from the second mafia member that wouldn't have happened if they were isolated or blocked. Regarding the poll, I think: Are you negative? No Are you local? No Do you have more than four possible night actions? No Lying on the first question – peaceful, not local. Lying on the second question – some kind of local townie. Lying on the third question – impossible. Although, with the third question, there could be a Vishmaster option, but I have the same doubts about that. The Master needs to clarify. Another question for the Master:

Protection from Cornelius / Protection from Milton / Protection from mafia (displayed as a fact in case of success)

Does this display only apply to mafia protection, or to all protection?

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MasteR

10 years ago

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Sesame

considering the amputation, it seems someone is in trouble.

I didn't understand what happened with the meeting in the jungle.

Master, does "date" only kill those who come to the target, but not the target itself? Or does it also affect the target? Is he only invulnerable at night if this special ability is used? Or is he invulnerable at night with any other special abilities as well?
If a role that performs several special abilities during the night is in a block, can it not perform any of its special abilities? Or is only one of them blocked?

“Date” does not kill the target itself. Only in the case of this special ability. The block applies to all actions.

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Sesame

10 years ago

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MasteR

Each team has its own set, and they don't depend on each other.
On odd nights, members of Haven go first, and on even nights, the infected do. This applies to recruitment as well.

I might be asking a silly question, but... does this only apply to recruiting the same target? And if two factions are recruiting different targets, should there be two recruited members in the morning? Is that correct?

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10 years ago

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The forum won't let me access page 9; if there's a triple post from me there, please ask a moderator to delete the extra ones.

SnowmanV2

10 years ago

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So, she just sat quietly so we could place a marker on the map? lol

Especially considering that actions performed on the Asian faction are not displayed.

MasteR

10 years ago

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Alone in the Void

April 14

It has already been 37 days since we arrived on this island, which became our last refuge. We were lucky to make it here, though far from all of us did, and I dare say that life has gradually begun to stabilize. ~~Former r~~ I wouldn't say we've returned to our previous lives... No! That same daily hustle that accompanied us almost since birth... The rat race, living at a frantic pace for the sake of incomprehensible goals and false values... All of that is in the past, and soon it will be forgotten like a bad dream. People have gradually begun to come to their senses after those terrible events. Not long ago they were ready to tear each other's throats out, seeing every stranger as a threat, but now they are learning once again to trust one another and combine their efforts in order to survive.
Meanwhile, the dangers facing us have not diminished. Yes, we are no longer surrounded by huge hordes of infected, as in those cities where we had to take shelter for a long time, but the jungle surrounding us provides excellent cover for our enemies, and any sudden attack on their part could result in serious losses for us. Wild animals, diseases, the infected who have overrun the entire eastern part of the island, and then there are these... people obsessed with some incomprehensible ideas, calling themselves an order. We pose no threat to them, yet they want to slaughter us and refuse any negotiations! And this is in a situation where every survivor's life is so precious in the struggle against the infected! In short, we have enough headaches as it is, and our leader is making every effort to secure and strengthen our camp. However, we haven't made much progress in that regard yet. Camouflage and cans hung on wires around the perimeter are unlikely to solve our problems in the long run...
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Today didn't seem to promise anything bad at first. Finally, the heavy rains gave way to clear weather, which allowed us to significantly replenish our supplies of food and firewood. But soon an inexplicable feeling of panic gripped the residents of our camp, and everyone was rushing from side to side as if preparing to repel an attack by hordes of infected. In their haste, some messed up the tasks they were given, which seriously agitated those around them. Gur didn't even help others; instead, he ran around the camp shouting "Fus Ro Dah!" at the top of his lungs into the void. And our "everyone's favorite" critic of the youth, who initially watched everything from the sidelines and muttered something under her breath, decided to pressure the already angry Uranium235, constantly getting in his way and asking completely inappropriate questions. I was only able to overhear some of them:
- I don't recall seeing you among us before, dearie! Or are you an enemy who has slipped into our ranks?
- At your age, I wouldn't rely on my memory, especially one like that! I saw sclerosis pills in the doctor's bag; it's time you started taking them! – Uranium235 replied angrily, his whole demeanor showing he was not in the mood for conversation.
- Stop messing with my head! I can see right through people like you! You sat here waiting for us to arrive just so you could kill us all later!
- Stop talking this nonsense! I arrived here on the same flight as the others!
- I don't believe it! You can't be one of ours! They say you're a jack-of-all-trades, that you clearly have more than 4 talents, while we've got nothing but butterfingers over here who can't do anything!
- Stop listening to these idiotic rumors! There isn't a grain of truth in them! – Uranium235 exclaimed and hurried away from the nagging old woman before another question flew his way.
Something similar happened to Ment. He was under increased scrutiny, which he clearly did not want.
Gradually, as night fell, all the agitation subsided. The camp residents, realizing nothing threatened them, returned to their daily chores. Having finally eaten their fill, everyone lay down to sleep, leaving one person on watch. I couldn't fall asleep and kept tossing and turning. Turning over to my other side once more, I noticed that my neighbor was also suffering from insomnia. Something was clearly bothering him. I tried to ask what happened, but he didn't answer for a long time, being lost in his thoughts. Finally, he broke his silence with a quiet whisper:
"You know, I feel very uneasy. I feel like something is wrong inside me. As if I'm burning from within!"
I immediately suggested he seek help from the doctor, to which he responded with a sharp refusal. "Sigh, I knew I should have used protection...", - he said and sank back into his distress.
It was already deep in the night when suddenly a piercing scream rang out. I rushed out of the tent and saw my friend before me, trying in vain to fight off an infected who had clamped onto his neck. The infected bit off a piece of flesh and loosened its grip slightly, allowing its victim to break free and crawl away. Someone tried to hack them back in revenge for their comrade but was bitten on the arm by another infected. Someone tried to flee from the infected deeper into the jungle but stumbled upon someone they certainly didn't expect to see there. Fortunately, he managed to hide from the stranger in time, as a meeting with him clearly promised nothing good.
Finally, the attack of the infected was repelled. Without any delay, one of the wounded was placed on the operating table. It was decided to amputate the arm before it was too late to prevent the infection from spreading through the body. The operation was generally successful, and there are decent chances that at least one person will be saved.
The second was far less lucky. Everyone around, and he himself, understood perfectly well that with such injuries, hoping for salvation was pointless. The bitten man managed to get on his feet somehow and glanced at those around him. They silently looked away. Finally, he turned and walked out of the camp without saying a word, taking only a couple of his things. Everyone understood perfectly why he was doing this...
After these events, there was no question of sleep. Everyone sat in silence before the campfire until someone finally broke the stillness to speak about the one who had left us. With the words "He cherished it until the very end, apparently sensing that everything would turn out this way. Now it will be useful to him," he finished his speech, after which everyone slowly dispersed to their tents.
In the morning we still tried to find him, but our search was unsuccessful.

Fighting for survival:
1. Anguilla - Gekasan_RU
2. Bora Bora - Heroist
3. Jamaica - Dagr
4. Aruba - Uranium235
5. Laccadive Islands - Fragment
6. Cuba - Gur
7. Lofoten Islands - Zlobny Yashchur
8. Malta - Ment
9. Corsica - Alexeagle
10. Nusa Lembongan - Kent305
11. Seychelles - Drakkoshka
12. Singapore - Sesame
13. Fiji - WishmasteR
14. Maldives - Last_Hero
15. Zanzibar - SnowmanV2
16. Maui - KindShaman

THE DAY BEGINS

Sesame

10 years ago

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Congrats on the move!

And I have good news – Ment is not a maniac.
I read it in the newspaper.

Although, no. I need to read the Non-Aggression Pact more carefully. Ment might be a mage. That’s a bummer :(

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10 years ago

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Good thing I have a habit of saving a post before sending it; I didn't have to retype it.

Ghur was having fun with the weed, and Ment was most likely isolated because, after Baba Nyura harassed Uran, it was written that Ment ended up in a similar situation – that is, he was also harassed.
Zero tried to kill someone, but the target was healed. As a second action, he recruited – successfully.

“You know, I feel very uneasy. I feel like something is wrong inside me. It's like I'm burning from the inside!”
I immediately suggested that he seek help from a doctor, to which he sharply refused. “Ah, I knew I should have used protection…,” he said and again immersed himself in his worries.

I don't quite understand what this is. Master, is there a hint in the newspaper about the result of the isolation? Like, did someone visit a man or a woman?

Someone tried to escape from the infected deep into the jungle, but ran into someone they definitely didn't expect to see there.

A date with a maniac, most likely. If so, then someone's physical defense has been burned.

“He saved her for the last moment, apparently sensing that things would turn out this way. Now she will be useful to him.”

I agree with Drakkosha about this. It seems that the detective has become the second second mafia.

It's difficult with the first mafia; it seems like there's nothing from them. They might have tried to recruit someone who couldn't be recruited, or the recruitment might have been thwarted by first aid. They might have failed to attack due to natural defense. The option of blocking or isolating the mafia is definitely out, because then these actions would not have been displayed. Skipping a turn, like mana in the previous mafia, is pointless, given the above, plus consciously not going for recruitment on the first night is not a very good move. Therefore, Ment and Ghur are not mafia, because the second mafia has an attack that would not have happened with isolation or a block.

Regarding the poll, I think:
Are you negative? No
Are you local? No
Do you have more than four possible night actions? No

Lying on the first question – peaceful, not local.
Lying on the second question – some kind of local townie.
Lying on the third question – impossible.

Although there might be a Vishmaster option with the third question, but I have the same doubts about it. The Master needs to clarify.

Another question for the Master:

Protection from Cornelius / Protection from Milton / Protection from the mafia (displayed as a fact in case of success)

Does this display apply only to mafia protection or to all protection?

Sesame

10 years ago

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I didn't quite understand what this is. Master, does the newspaper give a hint about the result of the isolation? Like, did someone come to the man or woman?

Isolation from Levi? But it's shown with the player's nickname. And here, it's either a fact about some unclear non-player character, or a literary piece.

Злобный Ящур

10 years ago

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Lying on the first question means peaceful, not a local.

If the answer to the first question is a lie, then the mafia has less than 5 night defense. That is, this option is actually impossible.

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Therefore, Cop and Doctor are not mafia, because there is an attack from the second mafia that would not have happened with isolation or a block.

But they can be the first mafia?:smile08:

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Ah, they can't. Night defense is not displayed for this friend...

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isolation from Levi? But it's shown with the player's nickname. And here, it's either a fact of some unclear non-disclosure agreement, or a literary element.

Well, yes, it was displayed with the nickname "Menta." As a literary element, it looks very strange, but in reality, the non-disclosure agreement more or less fits only as a hint at the gender of the isolated role and the result of the isolation in the sense of depriving/adding a voice.

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If the answer to the first question is a lie, then the killer has less than 5 non-disclosure agreements. That is, the option is actually impossible.

It depends on the wording of the question. If, as I assumed, it implies that available ultimates are also included.

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MasteR

10 years ago

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Does this display apply only to the Mafia protection or to all?

to all

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I didn't quite understand what this is. Master, does the newspaper give a hint about the outcome of the isolation? Like, does someone come to the man or woman?

no

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MasteR

10 years ago

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I didn't quite understand what this is. Master, does the newspaper give any hint about the outcome of the isolation? Like, does someone come to the man or woman?

no

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10 years ago

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Hmm. Then it's unclear what this is. I thought Lucy might have infected someone, but to infect them on the first night, when there are so many creatures...

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