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Posts from Mafia 101. Disputed IslandAuto-translated
Alright, I've made up my mind. I'm signing up. But I have at least ten newbie questions, and I'm not even sure if I should post them, as I might scare people off with the volume and not get an answer.
I made some minor adjustments to the setup and added an additional condition for recruitment: the number of mafia members in the group should not be greater than or equal to half the number of townspeople plus the number of serial killers.
I would like to clarify: are Jen Li and Zero's ultimates available on the fifth night and after, or only on the fifth night? If it's the second option, then if Zero is blocked or isolated on that night, does he lose his ultimate? Is the Hunter's ultimate available on any night except the fifth? It would be funny if I get the Night Hunter again for the second game in a row.) Ru
- Trap. Digs a pit in front of the target's house. If, subsequently, a killer goes to the target, they fall into the pit, and the assassination attempt fails.
Does it only work with physical attacks, or also with psychic attacks and infections?
I would like to clarify, are Jen Li and Zero's ultimates available on the fifth night and after, or only on that night? If it's the second option, then if Zero is blocked or isolated on that night, does he lose his ultimate? Is the Hunter's ultimate available on any night except the fifth? It would be funny if I get a Night Hunter for the second game in a row)
Only on the 5th night. If they are not used for some reason, the ultimates disappear. Fragment
Does it only work with physical attacks, or also with psychic attacks and infection?
With physical attacks and attacks on the mind, i.e., with ND (Damage) types.
Clues are given based on quents — what does that mean? As I understand it, an action of type (U) is formatted as a non-linear reference to the player's forum profile/Wikipedia article specified during the recording, which increases the chance for the perpetrator to be executed the following day.
The most important question! Does the effect depend on the existence of the source? That is, can someone who was killed/blocked/etc. before their turn do anything? If the hunter is spying on Nancy, they won't be able to kill tonight, even if their (U) is placed higher than the (I) action that activates the "pepper spray" trigger. The logic of a preemptive strike, as I see it, is to hit the killer, thereby saving yourself, rather than dying along with them.
Can the ultimate ability be used once per game?
Now regarding the characters.
Preemptive Strike. A trigger ability that activates at any moment, with no limit per night? Will it trigger if Rick and the hunter both ult in one night and the hunter ults Rick with an ND of type (U)?
Authority. Is this one ability that generates two effects? Meaning, if it is lost as a result of, for example, Jen Lee's ult, will both effects disappear?
Stunning Blow. On the following night, the target repeats this action. Does it repeat instead of their new action or in addition to it? And is the target of the repeated action preserved or can it be a new one?
Generally regarding double and zero votes. In my mind, the results look like a list of those wanting to execute — and a total at the end. If there are non-single votes, can the total differ? Or are holders of a zero vote unable to vote at all and won't appear on the list?
Special Attention. Is this a one-time ability or does it work every night? Does it activate if the defender/doctor is already dead/blocked/etc? Generally, how do multiple redirection effects interact? For example, Nancy is infected and in the same night there is a physical attack on the doctor. Who does he eventually heal and why?
Tactical Maneuver — performs any city action. Is a city action any action available to the survivor group characters? A list will be needed here to avoid confusion. Is a negative action something like (-)? Or is type (U) also included?
A spear is a contact weapon, right? Just in case it's considered long-range.
Is the trap one-time? Or can it catch multiple killers?
Professional Gaze. Does it heal from a psychic attack? Or does it only replace the "mentally ill" status with "mentally healthy"? Or does it replace it only if it was changed, while starting "psychos" remain psychos?
Persuasion. How is this implemented? It is the only daytime action. Do you need to reveal yourself or send information secretly?
Hot Trail. Is this private information or is it added for everyone as long as Cain is alive? If the target was killed by the night hunter using a physical attack, what weapon info will be provided? And will psychic attacks result in "no" for the weapon type or the target's weapon type?
Surveillance. If the target has multiple actions, are all types shown?
Healing. If the target's first status was changed due to infection, it changes it to "Physically healthy". What information will the doctor receive via the examination ability if they healed an infected person? Cannot heal mental disorders. Does it save from a psychic attack of type (U) or not?
Infection. Does the burning of actions and traits begin this night or the next? The question is irrelevant due to recent changes.
Physical Might. Cannot be blocked. Is Levi's isolation a block, or can Milton be isolated?
Loyalty. If Richie was killed tonight, will the recruitment that comes later in the list still work?
Private Conversation. How is the type (+/-) displayed for Cain? Can a recruited Nancy use private conversation? Will a double vote override Jen Lee's zero vote ability?
"I don't give a damn" If this ability is removed at night, will the immunity to execution be gone during the day? Irrelevant due to recent changes.
Rumors, Gossip. This is implemented privately, I understand, and the player chooses which question to lie about.
Endless Grumbling. The next day the target... does this mean the next night? Does it attack the first visitor or all visitors? What type of attack will the target have?
How is successful recruitment displayed for the mafioso? For the recruited? For everyone else?
Assault. Does Jen Lee choose whether the attack is physical or psychic? Or are these two attacks of both types simultaneously on each target?
Again regarding the burning of abilities and actions. Does the target find out about this openly? Or privately? Or not at all. Maybe the fact is open, but the specifics are private.
Bite. Twice as fast means 2 actions and 2 abilities? And those who don't have 2 of at least one type will die immediately.
Paranoid Balance Balancing. Any role. But if the role is already out of the game, will they find out about it?
Regarding the order of actions. It is not displayed, that's clear. But what does "displayed as a fact" mean, and how are actions without a marker displayed?
Note: The fact that there are many questions is not a joke.
Upd: if the night hunter goes to kill Jack Richie, and the latter tries to redirect him — then a) Jack Richie will be killed, as the maniac is not redirectable b) The maniac will be blocked, because in the case of an action (u) targeting Richie, he blocks the target instead of redirecting.
Clues are given based on quents - what does that mean? As I understand it, an action of type (K) is formatted with some non-linear reference to the player's forum profile/wiki article specified during recording, which increases the chance for the perpetrator to be executed the next day.
Each player chooses a number with a quent before the game. In this game, it is a link to a Wikipedia page about some island. If a player commits a murder, some information is taken from the Wikipedia page corresponding to their quent and a chain is built. The final link of this chain is published in the newspaper. Peaceful residents can figure out the killer during the day by correctly solving this very chain. Uranium235
The most important question! Does the effect depend on the existence of the source? That is, will someone who was killed/blocked/etc. before their turn be able to do anything?
Yes, it does. If a player's action, for example, occurs after they have been blocked, then the action fails. If before - it succeeds, provided there are no other obstacles. This applies to everything. Uranium235
If the hunter is spying on Nancy, he won't be able to kill tonight, even if his (K) action is higher than the (I) action that activates the "pepper spray" trigger.
In this case, Nancy's Pepper Spray is a trait. Traits are not in the order of actions; they trigger as soon as their conditions are met. In this instance, the hunter visits Nancy and is immediately blinded. Uranium235
The logic of a preemptive strike, it seems to me, is to hit the killer, thereby saving oneself rather than dying along with them.
If Rick kills an attacker with a preemptive strike, he saves himself. If the killer has protection, they kill Rick. Uranium235
Can the ultimate ability be used once per game?
Yes, unless stated otherwise Uranium235
Now about the characters.
Preemptive strike. A trigger ability that works at any moment, without a limit per night? Will it work if Rick and the hunter both ulted on one night and the hunter ulted into Rick with a (K) type action?
That's correct. If Rick ults and the hunter goes to kill him, the preemptive strike does not trigger because he is already lost during the maniac's arrival. Uranium235
Authority. Is this one ability that generates 2 effects? That is, if it is lost as a result of, for example, Jen Lee's ult, will both effects disappear?
Yes, both will disappear Uranium235
Stunning blow. On the next night, the target repeats this action. Does it repeat instead of their new action or in addition to it? And is the target of the repeated action preserved or can it be a new one?
Instead of their own action and the target is preserved, even if they are already dead Uranium235
Generally regarding double and zero votes. In my mind, the results look like a list of those wishing to execute - and at the end, a sum. And if there are non-single votes, can the sum differ? Or do holders of a zero vote simply not be able to vote and won't appear in the list?
Everyone can vote. At the end of the day, the number of votes is displayed as equal to the number of voters, i.e., as if everyone had 1 vote. But if a zero or double vote directly affects the outcome of the day (for example, 7 votes are needed for execution, 7 people voted, but in fact there are only 6 votes), then the actual number of votes is displayed in the results. Uranium235
Special attention. Is this a one-time ability or does it work every night? Does it activate if the protector/doctor is already dead/blocked/etc?
Important question. It's a one-time trait. If the protector/doctor is dead, blocked, doesn't perform a ND action, etc., the trait does not trigger. Uranium235
Generally, the interaction of several redirection effects. For example, Nancy is infected and on the same night there is a physical attack on the doctor. Who will he end up healing and why?
Who the doctor heals depends on the order of actions. He will heal whoever is attacked first. Uranium235
Tactical maneuver - performs any town action. Is a town action any available to the characters of the survivor group? A list will be needed here to avoid confusion. Is a negative action like (-)? Or is type (K) also one?
Any town action except ultimates. Negative is an ND of type (-). Uranium235
A spear is contact own weapon, right? Just in case it's considered long-range.
Contact Uranium235
Is the trap one-time? Or can it catch several killers?
One-time) Uranium235
Professional gaze Does it heal from a psychic attack? Or only replace the "psychically ill" status with "psychically healthy"? Or does it only replace if it was changed, while starting "psychos" remain psychos?
It heals specifically from an attack. Starting psychos remain psychos) Uranium235
Power of persuasion. How is this implemented? It's the only daytime action. Do you need to reveal yourself or send information secretly?
During the day, the player secretly informs the GM whether they want to use DD and exactly how to use it. Uranium235
Hot trail. Is this private information or is it added for everyone as long as Kane is alive? If a night hunter killed the target with a physical attack, what weapon info will be given? And will psychic attacks return "no" for weapon type or the target's weapon type?
Only Kane receives this information. If killed during a date - machete; if by a shiv to the throat - accordingly, a shiv. Psychic attacks will also reveal the killer's weapon type, even though it's not entirely logical. Uranium235
Surveillance. And if the target has several actions, all types?
If the target has several NDs, information is given only about the very first one in order. The same applies to redirection. Uranium235
Healing. If the target's first status was changed due to infection, it changes it to "Physically healthy" What information will the doctor get via the inspection ability if they healed an infected person? Cannot heal psychic disorders. Does it save from a (K) type psychic attack or not?
The one that was there before the status change. It does not save from a psychic attack. Uranium235
Infection. Does the burning of actions and traits start this night or from the next? The question is irrelevant due to recent changes.
The current one Uranium235
Physical power. Not blocked. Is Levi's isolation a block, or can Milton be isolated?
Isolation and blocking are different actions. He can Uranium235
Devotion. So if Richie was killed this night, will the recruitment that comes later in the list still work?
It will work Uranium235
Private conversation. How is the (+/-) type displayed for Kane? Can a recruited Nancy use private conversation? Will a double vote override Jen Lee's zero vote ability?
If you added a vote to someone - action of type (+), if you lost your own vote - (-). Nancy cannot use it. Jen Lee will have a single vote for 1 day. Uranium235
"And I don't give a fuck" If this ability is removed at night, will the immunity to execution be gone during the day? Irrelevant due to recent changes.
It will be gone Uranium235
Rumors, gossip. This is implemented privately, I understand, and the player chooses which question to lie about.
Yes, they choose themselves Uranium235
Endless grumbling The next day the target... Do you mean the next night? Attacks the first visitor or all visitors? What type of attack will the target have?
Next night, attacks only the first visitor with a physical attack. If the visitor survives, both survive the night. Uranium235
How is successful recruitment displayed for the mafioso? For the recruited? For everyone else?
The mafioso and the recruited are informed of the successful recruitment. The recruited person is added to the mafioso chat. For others, there will be a hint in the newspaper about a successful recruitment and the role of the recruited, without mentioning the nickname Uranium235
Assault. Does Jen Lee choose if the attack is physical or psychic? Or are these 2 attacks of both types simultaneously on each target?
Both types on each target Uranium235
Once more regarding the burning of abilities and actions. Does the target find out openly? Or privately? Or not at all. Maybe the fact is open, but the specifics are private.
Someone whose protection burned out, for example, will not find out. If someone was infected, they will find out. Uranium235
Bite. Twice as fast means 2 actions and 2 abilities? And those who don't have at least one of each type will die immediately.
Yes, exactly so Uranium235
Paranoid balance balancing. Any role. But if the role is already out of the game, will he find out?
If they choose a role that is no longer in the game - they waste their action Uranium235
Regarding the order of actions. It's not displayed, that's clear. But what does "displayed as a fact" mean and how are actions without a mark displayed?
Displayed as a fact - a hint is given in the newspaper that this action was performed, but no hints are given regarding roles or specific players subjected to this action. Those without a mark - are displayed in the newspaper with the nicknames of the players they were applied to. Uranium235
Y: Regarding there being many questions - it's not a joke.
During the game, someone would have asked them anyway) You're doing the right thing by asking
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Upd: if the night hunter goes to kill Jack Richie, and he tries to redirect him - then a) Jack Richie will be killed, as the maniac is not redirectable b) The maniac will be blocked, because in the case of an action (k) going into Richie, he blocks the target instead of redirecting.
Thank you for the quick responses. I was especially surprised that the second action of the psychologist
is the same as the first action, but provides more information. Or, more likely, I misunderstood the answer.
It's very good that this question arose. There are 2 nuances here:
1) Mages may have an ignore healing effect when attacking, which means that only defense can help the victim. 2) If Cornelius comes out specifically to defend, and a psychic attack is used on Nancy, then her special ability will activate, and the defense will be redirected. But if Cornelius uses the second action, this will not happen.
Funny set... :D You can completely eliminate the team of Necropolis creatures in 2 nights if you get lucky... :smile34: Let's choose the **Lofoten Islands**... :smile04:
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
Master, what about my question...? I'll add a little more:Lucy
- First Aid. Removes all negative effects (-) targeting the target during the current night.
Can it save from recruitment? From a date with a maniac among other visitors targeting the target? How does it work with isolating a male character and infection? Does it heal the infection or just temporarily suspend its effect?