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Tournament «Новичок – 2015. Summer»
We welcome all fans of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, future participants, and supporters of the traditional "Новичок" tournament.
This is already the thirteenth traditional tournament for Новичок. We hope it will please us with great games and new discovery players.
The main goal of the tournament is to get to know each other and gain experience in communication and gameplay.


Winners of past tournaments:
"Новичок-2015. Winter"Socrat
"Новичок-2014. Summer" - Falcone
"Новичок-2014. Winter" - Aiwe
"Новичок-2013. Summer" - The_
"Новичок-2013. Winter" - высокий
"Новичок-2012. Summer" - twaryna
"Новичок-2012. Winter" - 7z
"Новичок-2011. Summer" - Sky Pioneer
"Новичок-2011. Winter" - Sevensan
"Новичок-2010. Summer" - тенью бездомной
"Новичок-2010. Winter" - Сатир
"Новичок-2009. Summer"Erdem

Participant Requirements:

1. Players who registered on heroesworld after 31.05.2014 are invited to participate in the tournament.
2. A tournament participant must have played several official games in a seasonal tournament or another official tournament on HeroesWorld, or at least 5 games for which there are detailed reports in the fan games thread on heroesworld (games can be played and reports written after registration).
3. Players who have taken prize-winning places or participated in 2 or more tournaments from the Новичок series are not allowed to participate.
4. Questions regarding the admission of relatively experienced players or those with an earlier registration date on heroesworld will be considered by the organizers in coordination with the AC.
5. The participant must be able to play 1 game per week - priority time for games is considered 19-24 MSK on weekdays and 12-24 MSK on weekends.
6. If it is discovered during the tournament that a player provided false information, they will be disqualified from the tournament, and the materials will be forwarded to the AC.

Submit applications in this thread:

There is a Detailed instruction with pictures FAQ17 on the forum explaining how this is done.
You need to do the following:
1. Check if an ICQ number is entered in your profile; add it there if it is missing.
If it is in your profile, a small green daisy - the ICQ symbol - is visible under the avatar. If not, you must follow the algorithm.
2. Leave an application in this thread. To do this, click the Sign up for tournament button located at the beginning of this thread and at the top of each page.
3. 2-3 days before the draw, you must contact the lead skd (IСQ 593626431) and confirm participation. Players who disappear from the forum (lack of user activity for a week) will not be admitted to the draw.

Organizational Issues:

1. Leads - Iamsamstan (IСQ 435-191-039), skd (ICQ 593-626-431), Judges - Redwhait HP (ICQ 658339987); in the absolute same extreme case, contact Dirty_Player (ICQ 408722873).
2. The tournament is held according to the Rules for organization, conduct and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. The Regulations and Rules of the tournament will not change during the course of the tournament.
4. For each game played, participants must submit a detailed report and a detailed confirmation in this thread. Only in this case is the game counted. All tournament reports must be written using the automatic report writing system: Detailed instruction with pictures FAQ18.
- To create a report, click the New report button located at the top of each page of the thread and fill in all necessary fields according to the template. After that, write your detailed comments on the game.
- To confirm a report, the second player must find the game report, click the Confirm report button, and also write a detailed report.
- It is considered good tone to thank the opponent for the game.
5. All tournament games go into the HoMM3 HW Player Rating.
6. Technical results are assigned for games not played within the established timeframe.
7. Saves and password files for all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon first request by the tournament leads, judges, or any member of the AC. Forgetting or losing a game password may serve as grounds for assigning a technical defeat in the game.
8. Disputed points, if any arise, are requested to be discussed off-forum. To resolve them, you must contact the tournament lead or judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The same judicial decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arose is not regulated by the rules, the judges are guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.

Regulations


Tournament Format.

The tournament is conducted according to the following scheme: Qualification. Group Stage. Play-offs – Double Elimination.
In the Qualification round, participants are distributed into pairs and play for entry into the group stage. The match is best of 1. The winner of the match proceeds to the group stage; the loser goes to reserve, i.e., as a substitute (during the group stage, a substitute player will have the opportunity to take the place of a withdrawn or disqualified player).
Group stage – groups of 6 people each. Players who take the first 4 places advance from the group to the Play-off round.
The main criterion for advancing from the group is the number of points earned (3 points for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss). If several players earn the same number of points, additional indicators come into play (in order of priority):
a) Berger Coefficient;
b) Head-to-head encounter;
c) Total number of game turns in games where the player won (priority is given to the player who spent fewer turns to win. Point “c” applies only if players have the same number of wins in the group).
d) If priority cannot be given by additional indicators a, b, c, a tie-break game on the Panic template is held between the players.

Play-offs – upper and lower brackets. A player who loses in the upper bracket moves to the lower bracket; a player who loses in the lower bracket is eliminated from the tournament. Play-off games are best of 1. The final of the upper and lower brackets is best of 2. The Grand Final is best of 3 without an advantage for the player advancing to the final via the upper bracket, on one map. The player who reaches the Grand Final via the upper bracket will be given the opportunity to strike out 2 game templates that will not be used in the final games.

Dates.

Registration August 2 – August 15
Draw and group formation – August 16
Tournament start: August 16
Qualification: August 16 - August 22
Group stage August 16 – September 30
Start of Play-off Round – October 10

Tournament games must be played within the established timeframe. For violation of game deadlines, by decision of the tournament organizers and judges, a player may be penalized up to disqualification from the tournament.

Rules.

1. Game version. The tournament is held on game version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + by mutual agreement of players HW_rulez (for correct operation, the patch must be installed for both players). By mutual agreement, games may be conducted on HotA version 1.3.8 (according to a vote held among participants).
When using the HW rulez mod, the default setting options are: 01110.
That is, obelisk ban – disabled; fort on hill, cartographer, keymaster tents ban – enabled; permanently built level 2 in city – disabled. Players may agree on other setting conditions.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the rules of online games in Heroes 3.
When playing on the HotA version, HotA tournament rules are used.
3. Total restarts: 3 days (111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113).
4. The choice of color for the first generation is given to the first player in the pair. After each subjective restart, players switch colors.
5. The selection of the starting city is done by striking out. Players alternately strike out 3 cities, after which the starting city is chosen. The player listed second in the pair starts striking out cities and chooses the starting city first.

Templates.

1. Qualification and group stage games are played on templates: Skirmish M-200%, Balance L-U, 2sm4d(3), Diamond, Jebus Cross. (According to a vote held)
2. In the Play-offs, one of the group templates will be removed by participant vote, and Panic, Mini-Nostalgia, 8mm6a will be added to the remaining four templates.
3. The template for the qualification game is chosen by striking out from the 5 group templates. In the group round, players are to play one game on each of the templates. In the play-off round, the template for the game will be chosen by striking out from a list of templates. Grand Final participants will alternately choose the game template. The order of selection will be determined by the player who advanced to the Grand Final via the upper bracket.
4. Information about templates and recommended settings can be found in the corresponding section.
5. When choosing a template by striking out, the second player in the pair starts.
6. Games are conducted on a chess timer. For more comfortable gameplay, chess timer setting options have been increased.
Skirmish - 10:00+05:00+01:15
Panic/ Balance - 19:00+07:00+01:15
2sm4d(3) - 21:00+08:00+01:30
Diamond/ Mini-Nostalgia - 24:00+08:30+01:30
8mm6a - 24:00+09:00+01:30
Jebus Cross - 28:00+09:30+01:45
By mutual agreement of the players, the game is conducted on the chess timer established by heroesworld rules.

I wish all participants luck, a hard-fought struggle, and beautiful victories! The tournament winner will be awarded the "Winner of Tournament 'Новичок'" medal under their avatar:

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Battle Report Accepted
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Кайри / Kyrre Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Поражение / Lose Поражение / Lose
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Шакти / Shakti Main Hero Шакти / Shakti
Map Template
2sm4d(3)
Game Length
121 days
Game Date
10/12/2015
Reported
10/12/2015 7:21 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Jelen117 1590 1571 -19 ↓
Uranium235 1484 1503 +19 ↑
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 10/12/2015 7:43 PM

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Decision regarding the match between Jelen117 (red Rampart) and Uranium235 (blue Dungeon), template 2sm4d(3), played with the ХВ Rules 1.38 patch.

On day 121, red bought reinforcements in the Castle and passed the troops along the chain to Kir, who advanced through the neutral secondary zone and saw the blue hero exiting the underground gate with a horde of troglodytes and several harpies (the blue's main force). Red attacked on day 121, which violated rule 2.1.1, point "b":
On all templates, except for XL+U templates, red-rush is prohibited:
The player playing red is prohibited from attacking on the first day of the week with reinforcements (i.e., troops that appeared at the beginning of the new week in the dwellings of the player's cities (towns) or in cities (towns) captured on that day from a human or computer opponent) purchased on that day for the blue hero, if the presence of reinforcements can affect the outcome of the battle or losses in the battle for either player.

Given that red attacked with the main force and reinforcements on the blue's main force on day 121, and given that the ХВ Rules patch warns about red-rush, the following decision was made:

1. The match will be recorded as a technical defeat for Jelen117.
2. The following result will be set: Uranium235 def Jelen117 (tech. def.)

Decision about the result of the game between Jelen117 (red) and Uranium235 (blue):

1. Count a technical defeat for a player Jelen117.
2. Set following result: Uranium235 def Jelen117 (tech. def.)

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1. Count a technical defeat for player Jelen117.
2. Set the following result: Uranium235 def Jelen117 (tech. def.)
Is this the judge's decision? (redwhite or dirty?)

лето 2012.
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Is this the judge's decision? (redwhite or dirty?)

This is the decision of the Organizer and the tournament host (i.e., mine).

The tournament is held according to the rules of tournament organization; let's open and review them.
Specifically, let's look at Section 5:
1. Disputed situations arise when the rules of the game are violated, due to disconnections, desynchronization, software glitches, etc.
2. Disputed moments during the tournament are decided by the Organizer.

6. If a disputed situation arises in a match, the tournament participants must contact the Organizer, the Tournament Judge, or the Arbitration Committee and present all the necessary information...

The participants contacted me to make a decision.

Players can appeal this decision, according to

7. The decision is made by the Organizer; it can be appealed by the dissenting party to the Tournament Judge and/or the Arbitration Committee.

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I ran up to the 3 heroes, 1 angel Conservatory and 4 roads inspire hope restart not taken. In fact there was no money, shakti ran with the angel is not there. 121 Kyrre attacks Level 1 character with troglodytes. And it redrash, otherwise it would be defeated without a chance. Jelen117 built 1, 3-6 lvls in the castle, I buy up almost nothing. Random victory because of a carelessness to the rules of the opponent.
Tfp.
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It is a somewhat hard decision in a newbie tournament. As long as he didnt get any important information by attacking, you could also decide to load the game and correct the mistake. Mistakes happen, an instant loss is a high price.
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It is a somewhat hard decision in a newbie tournament. As long as he didn't get any important information by attacking, you could also decide to load the game and correct the mistake. Mistakes happen, an instant loss is a high price.
I was informed about the red-rush by a player who was watching the stream, meaning Jelen calmly red-rushed and passed the turn without realizing he had violated the rules. If he had realized it at the moment of the attack or before the end of his turn, then I believe we could have considered the option of loading the game. But as it is, it could have been a victory achieved through a violation of the rules.

About the red-rush, I received a message from a stream viewer. Jelen finished his turn even without remembering about this rule. He had enough time to think; they were playing with the 1.38 HW_rules patch, which reminds them every week "don't forget about red-rush."
Considering all that, it could be a win with a flagrant violation of the rules.

That's why I made this decision.

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Fierce jabber. He gave away all three restarts, I just didn't like anything — sometimes there were annoying blocks, sometimes one hero had 35 pikemen in the army and that was it. The opponent gave away two restarts (I think he didn't take the third to avoid giving Red). The spawn was good: an Angel external dwelling taken on day 115, two Griffin Conservatories (tier 3 and tier 1), a couple of Hives with 12 Vivi, and a double Dragon Utopia at home. Father Tazar in the tavern. I didn't tempo-rush, collected the Conservatories, and planned my push for day 124. ГО — Bone Dragons (33 of them) or Archangels (around 15). I scouted the Bones and found out that the Archangels couldn't be bypassed, and right behind the Archangels stood 7 Black Dragons. I was upset, of course, and decided to build my own Archangels, so I went to the Dragon Utopia — it turned out to be a double, took it without issues. And here I am, looking good on day 131 with 12 Archangels, marching into the center and just steamrolling everything in sight. I see the opponent is in his Castle, his army is barely worth mentioning, and Tazar breaks in — GG! Thanks to the opponent for the game!
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Battle Report Accepted
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Кейтлин / Caitlin Start Hero Кейтлин / Caitlin
Тазар / Tazar Main Hero Тазар / Tazar
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Мефала / Mephala Start Hero Мефала / Mephala
Мефала / Mephala Main Hero Мефала / Mephala
Map Template
Jebus Cross
Game Length
133 days
Game Date
10/13/2015
Reported
10/13/2015 3:54 PM
Rating Impact Archived
sShreKs 1461 1481 +20 ↑
unq_flipmo 1599 1579 -20 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 10/14/2015 6:19 PM

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Decision regarding the match between Jelen117 (red Rampart) - Uranium235 (blue Dungeon), template 2sm4d(3), played with patch ХВ Rules 1.38.

On day 121, red bought reinforcements in the castle and passed the troops along the chain to Kir, who advanced through the neutral secondary zone and saw the blue hero exiting the underground gate with a horde of troglodytes and several harpies (the blue's main force). Red attacked on day 121, which violated rule 2.1.1, point "b":
On all templates, except for XL+U size templates, red-rush is prohibited:
The player playing red is not allowed to attack on the first day of the week with reinforcements (i.e., troops that appeared at the beginning of the new week in the dwellings of the player's cities (towns) or in cities (towns) captured on that day from the opponent-human and computer players), purchased on that day for the blue hero, if the presence of reinforcements can affect the outcome of the battle or losses in the battle for either player.

Given that red attacked with its main force and reinforcements on the blue's weaker hero with the main force on day 121, and given that the ХВ Rules patch warns about red-rush, the following decision was made:

1. The match will be recorded as a technical defeat for player Jelen117.
2. The following result will be set: Uranium235 def Jelen117 (tech. def.)

Decision about the result of the game between Jelen117 (red) and Uranium235 (blue):

1. Count a technical defeat for a player Jelen117.
2. Set following result: Uranium235 def Jelen117 (tech. def.)

And this person (Jelen117) was still talking to me about honesty. The hypocrisy is astounding
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And this person (Jelen117) was still talking to me about honesty. The hypocrisy is astounding.

He could have continued to not understand that he had violated the rules until the very end.
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If he remembered about the Rampart, he wouldn't have attacked while in his right mind; at most, he might have remembered it during or after the battle.
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What nonsense is this? The player violated the rules! The player was rightfully penalized; what other questions could there be? If the player believes that the penalty was unfair, they can appeal to higher authorities. Also, anyone who wishes can create a petition regarding the unfair penalty and submit it to the Tournament Judge.
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Don't make a fool of yourself. You tried to draw a game without playing to get out of the group. What a shame.

I streamed it and one of my viewer informed me about the problem (silenthill). I instantly wrote to opponent and judges. Dunno, maybe you are robot not forgetting about anything. I don't understand what I could have gained on this "cheating" if I was streaming it and around 50 people were watching the game, chance to get away with murder was rather low, you should admit. I know the rules so I accept the loss and have nothing more to add.
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There’s nothing shameful about a prearranged draw that doesn’t really decide anything, but rather saves time. And if it weren’t for the coincidence, when a player competing in the winners’ final against Maretti, who hadn’t lost a single match in the group stage, suddenly loses to a player in last place, I would have also withdrawn (I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a prearrangement there too).

Prearranged matches aren’t prohibited by the rules, but you considered it unfair, and you yourself knowingly violated the rules, and that would have worked if it weren’t for the viewers of the stream. So, judging by your double standards, I doubted your high moral principles.

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