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Tournament «Новичок – 2015. Summer»
We welcome all fans of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, future participants, and supporters of the traditional "Новичок" tournament.
This is already the thirteenth traditional tournament for Новичок. We hope it will please us with great games and new discovery players.
The main goal of the tournament is to get to know each other and gain experience in communication and gameplay.


Winners of past tournaments:
"Новичок-2015. Winter"Socrat
"Новичок-2014. Summer" - Falcone
"Новичок-2014. Winter" - Aiwe
"Новичок-2013. Summer" - The_
"Новичок-2013. Winter" - высокий
"Новичок-2012. Summer" - twaryna
"Новичок-2012. Winter" - 7z
"Новичок-2011. Summer" - Sky Pioneer
"Новичок-2011. Winter" - Sevensan
"Новичок-2010. Summer" - тенью бездомной
"Новичок-2010. Winter" - Сатир
"Новичок-2009. Summer"Erdem

Participant Requirements:

1. Players who registered on heroesworld after 31.05.2014 are invited to participate in the tournament.
2. A tournament participant must have played several official games in a seasonal tournament or another official tournament on HeroesWorld, or at least 5 games for which there are detailed reports in the fan games thread on heroesworld (games can be played and reports written after registration).
3. Players who have taken prize-winning places or participated in 2 or more tournaments from the Новичок series are not allowed to participate.
4. Questions regarding the admission of relatively experienced players or those with an earlier registration date on heroesworld will be considered by the organizers in coordination with the AC.
5. The participant must be able to play 1 game per week - priority time for games is considered 19-24 MSK on weekdays and 12-24 MSK on weekends.
6. If it is discovered during the tournament that a player provided false information, they will be disqualified from the tournament, and the materials will be forwarded to the AC.

Submit applications in this thread:

There is a Detailed instruction with pictures FAQ17 on the forum explaining how this is done.
You need to do the following:
1. Check if an ICQ number is entered in your profile; add it there if it is missing.
If it is in your profile, a small green daisy - the ICQ symbol - is visible under the avatar. If not, you must follow the algorithm.
2. Leave an application in this thread. To do this, click the Sign up for tournament button located at the beginning of this thread and at the top of each page.
3. 2-3 days before the draw, you must contact the lead skd (IСQ 593626431) and confirm participation. Players who disappear from the forum (lack of user activity for a week) will not be admitted to the draw.

Organizational Issues:

1. Leads - Iamsamstan (IСQ 435-191-039), skd (ICQ 593-626-431), Judges - Redwhait HP (ICQ 658339987); in the absolute same extreme case, contact Dirty_Player (ICQ 408722873).
2. The tournament is held according to the Rules for organization, conduct and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. The Regulations and Rules of the tournament will not change during the course of the tournament.
4. For each game played, participants must submit a detailed report and a detailed confirmation in this thread. Only in this case is the game counted. All tournament reports must be written using the automatic report writing system: Detailed instruction with pictures FAQ18.
- To create a report, click the New report button located at the top of each page of the thread and fill in all necessary fields according to the template. After that, write your detailed comments on the game.
- To confirm a report, the second player must find the game report, click the Confirm report button, and also write a detailed report.
- It is considered good tone to thank the opponent for the game.
5. All tournament games go into the HoMM3 HW Player Rating.
6. Technical results are assigned for games not played within the established timeframe.
7. Saves and password files for all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon first request by the tournament leads, judges, or any member of the AC. Forgetting or losing a game password may serve as grounds for assigning a technical defeat in the game.
8. Disputed points, if any arise, are requested to be discussed off-forum. To resolve them, you must contact the tournament lead or judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The same judicial decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arose is not regulated by the rules, the judges are guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.

Regulations


Tournament Format.

The tournament is conducted according to the following scheme: Qualification. Group Stage. Play-offs – Double Elimination.
In the Qualification round, participants are distributed into pairs and play for entry into the group stage. The match is best of 1. The winner of the match proceeds to the group stage; the loser goes to reserve, i.e., as a substitute (during the group stage, a substitute player will have the opportunity to take the place of a withdrawn or disqualified player).
Group stage – groups of 6 people each. Players who take the first 4 places advance from the group to the Play-off round.
The main criterion for advancing from the group is the number of points earned (3 points for a win, 1 for a draw, 0 for a loss). If several players earn the same number of points, additional indicators come into play (in order of priority):
a) Berger Coefficient;
b) Head-to-head encounter;
c) Total number of game turns in games where the player won (priority is given to the player who spent fewer turns to win. Point “c” applies only if players have the same number of wins in the group).
d) If priority cannot be given by additional indicators a, b, c, a tie-break game on the Panic template is held between the players.

Play-offs – upper and lower brackets. A player who loses in the upper bracket moves to the lower bracket; a player who loses in the lower bracket is eliminated from the tournament. Play-off games are best of 1. The final of the upper and lower brackets is best of 2. The Grand Final is best of 3 without an advantage for the player advancing to the final via the upper bracket, on one map. The player who reaches the Grand Final via the upper bracket will be given the opportunity to strike out 2 game templates that will not be used in the final games.

Dates.

Registration August 2 – August 15
Draw and group formation – August 16
Tournament start: August 16
Qualification: August 16 - August 22
Group stage August 16 – September 30
Start of Play-off Round – October 10

Tournament games must be played within the established timeframe. For violation of game deadlines, by decision of the tournament organizers and judges, a player may be penalized up to disqualification from the tournament.

Rules.

1. Game version. The tournament is held on game version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + by mutual agreement of players HW_rulez (for correct operation, the patch must be installed for both players). By mutual agreement, games may be conducted on HotA version 1.3.8 (according to a vote held among participants).
When using the HW rulez mod, the default setting options are: 01110.
That is, obelisk ban – disabled; fort on hill, cartographer, keymaster tents ban – enabled; permanently built level 2 in city – disabled. Players may agree on other setting conditions.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the rules of online games in Heroes 3.
When playing on the HotA version, HotA tournament rules are used.
3. Total restarts: 3 days (111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113).
4. The choice of color for the first generation is given to the first player in the pair. After each subjective restart, players switch colors.
5. The selection of the starting city is done by striking out. Players alternately strike out 3 cities, after which the starting city is chosen. The player listed second in the pair starts striking out cities and chooses the starting city first.

Templates.

1. Qualification and group stage games are played on templates: Skirmish M-200%, Balance L-U, 2sm4d(3), Diamond, Jebus Cross. (According to a vote held)
2. In the Play-offs, one of the group templates will be removed by participant vote, and Panic, Mini-Nostalgia, 8mm6a will be added to the remaining four templates.
3. The template for the qualification game is chosen by striking out from the 5 group templates. In the group round, players are to play one game on each of the templates. In the play-off round, the template for the game will be chosen by striking out from a list of templates. Grand Final participants will alternately choose the game template. The order of selection will be determined by the player who advanced to the Grand Final via the upper bracket.
4. Information about templates and recommended settings can be found in the corresponding section.
5. When choosing a template by striking out, the second player in the pair starts.
6. Games are conducted on a chess timer. For more comfortable gameplay, chess timer setting options have been increased.
Skirmish - 10:00+05:00+01:15
Panic/ Balance - 19:00+07:00+01:15
2sm4d(3) - 21:00+08:00+01:30
Diamond/ Mini-Nostalgia - 24:00+08:30+01:30
8mm6a - 24:00+09:00+01:30
Jebus Cross - 28:00+09:30+01:45
By mutual agreement of the players, the game is conducted on the chess timer established by heroesworld rules.

I wish all participants luck, a hard-fought struggle, and beautiful victories! The tournament winner will be awarded the "Winner of Tournament 'Новичок'" medal under their avatar:

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I checked your rating, and it wasn't impressive. I don't feel like playing with you, no offense. It seems like you talk more than you play, which is exactly what you're doing.
And I wasn't planning on playing with you anyway. I was just expressing my opinion about the changes in the tournament rules, and you started trolling me. Conversation over. :cool:
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Roma, I agree with you about HotA. Regarding the "single-map" format, the situation is that many people don't like it, and streamers rarely play it. But, in my opinion, they should have still created a template for it.
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I'm not asking to be registered for the tournament.

Sorry for interfering, but what do comrades Heroin, Vatya, Roger, and others have to do with this topic? Why do they allow themselves to discuss the actions of the tournament judge, in which they are not participating? And they are also acting arrogant like Heroin and showing off, saying things like "Who are you, and who have you beaten?". What a top player you turned out to be, it's laughable... :D
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For information!
Since the player Makiavelli has been reinstated in the Novice Winter 2015 tournament and won another round in the lower bracket, and therefore continues to participate in the tournament, his application to participate in the Novice Summer 2015 tournament is canceled.

08/16/2015 Makiavelli (Red, Stronghold, Kreg Heg, Kairie) def MikeM (Blue, Fortress, Tazar, Tazar) Jebus Cross 212

There is no need to play a qualifying match in Match 4.
The player tun7gus7 advances directly to Group 2 and can await his opponent (the winner of the qualifying Match 3).

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I'm not asking to be registered for the tournament.

Sorry for interfering, but what do comrades Heroin, Vatya, Roger, and others have to do with this topic? Why do they allow themselves to discuss the actions of the tournament judge, in which they are not participating? And they are acting arrogant like Heroin and showing off, saying things like "And who are you, and who have you beaten?". What a top player you turned out to be, it's laughable... :D
Regarding "acting arrogant," it's everyone's personal right; let the public and moderators judge that. But as for discussing the tournament rules, we have every right to express our opinion.
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I'm not asking to be registered for the tournament.

Sorry for interfering, but what do comrades Heroin, Vatya, Roger, and others have to do with this topic? Why do they allow themselves to discuss the actions of the tournament judge, in which they are not participating? And also act arrogant like Heroin and show off, saying things like "And who are you, and who have you beaten?". What a top player you turned out to be, it's laughable... :D
Laugh at yourself, for example, how you criticize the game itself and the Heroes players, and then you just play Heroes and play with the same people you criticized, as if nothing happened. Being arrogant is your thing, you don't see the bigger picture. And where did you see that it was written that I am a top player? I ask you not to make the situation worse; everyone who is registered here has a relationship with the tournaments held on HW, regardless of whether they are a beginner or a veteran.
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I'm not asking to be signed up for the Tournament)

Sorry for butting in, but what do the comrades Heroin, Vatya, Roger, and the like have to do with this topic? Why do they allow themselves to discuss the actions of a tournament judge in a tournament they are not even participating in? And on top of that, acting tough like Heroin and throwing around boasts like "And who the hell are you and who have you ever beaten?" Look at this, a top-player found, I'm laughing my ass off... :D


With all due respect to Jurist as a player and as a person (for his actions during the Maidan), I must disagree.

The Новичок Tournament is NOT SKD's PRIVATE tournament, but is one of only 3-4 regular tournaments on the HeroesWorld site (Новичок, Lyubimchiki, OFB, and possibly M200), so any changes should be made according to a specific system (discussion on the site, a vote, adoption of changes).

Consequently, the introduction of RADICAL changes ARBITRARILY by SKD (who has essentially been on the site for five minutes) caused outrage among people who are NOT INDIFFERENT to the life of the site!

MikeM is undoubtedly a player of at least average level (I had the opportunity to see this firsthand), but he has also been on the site for five minutes (or perhaps longer, but under a different nickname — that's my theory), and therefore showing disrespect to players who have been on the site for many years and presenting his ideas as indisputable is not good form, let alone engaging in a quarrel instead of a discussion.
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Dear forum members,
The Tournaments topic was opened on August 2nd; it initially contained the following provision:
"In the group stage, players must play one game on each of the templates." This is my idea, and some experienced forum players are not refusing to assist in its implementation. During registration, only 1 person expressed their dissatisfaction, which served as a basis for voting in the topic. As can be seen from its results, most supported these changes. Therefore, before the start of the tournament, this provision has not been changed.

Regarding Hota – my message #12 in this topic dated August 2nd; during registration, no one raised any objections. Initially, there was no point about Hota in the regulations, but the players themselves asked to add it. The voting results were in favor of Hota.
The first tournament on Hota was held in March 2015; therefore, using this version in previous Новичок tournaments was simply impossible; now it is relevant.

Regarding your objections in the tournament topic after its start: this is nothing more than spam; participants may not notice informational messages regarding the tournament; therefore, I ask you to stop. If you have objections, please contact the АК (Arbitration Committee).

The tournament regulations contain the following provision: "The Regulations and Rules for conducting the tournament will not be changed during the tournament." The tournament has started, and the participants did not express any objections regarding the rules; therefore, I will not change them on my own initiative. If the members of the Arbitration Committee decide that the innovations are unnecessary, then I will make the necessary changes at their direction.

I would like to add that any changes can either be positive or negative, but until they are tried out, it is not worth drawing conclusions. During the Novichok winter-2015 tournament, it was already suggested to hold a Novichok tournament once a year. If everything remains as it is and nothing new is tried, which will primarily be interesting for its participants, the Novichok tournament – an official regular one – will become a tournament that used to exist on ХВ.

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Dear forum members,
The Tournaments topic was opened on August 2nd; it initially contained the following provision:
"In the group stage, players will play one game on each of the templates." This is my idea, and some experienced forum players are not refusing to assist in its implementation. During registration, only one person expressed dissatisfaction, which served as a basis for voting in the topic. As can be seen from its results, most supported these changes. Therefore, before the start of the tournament, this provision did not change.

Regarding Hota – my message #12 in this topic from August 2nd; during registration, no one raised objections. Initially, there was no point about Hota in the regulations, but the players themselves asked to add it. The voting results were in favor of Hota.
The first tournament on Hota was held in March 2015; therefore, using this version in previous Новичок tournaments was simply impossible; now, it is relevant.

Regarding your objections in the tournament topic after its start: this is nothing more than spam; participants may not notice informational messages regarding the tournament; therefore, I ask you to stop. If you have any objections, please contact the АК (Administration Committee).

The tournament regulations contain the following provision: "The Regulations and Rules for conducting the tournament will not be changed during the tournament." The tournament has started; the participants did not express any objections to the rules; therefore, I will not change them on my own initiative. If the members of the АК decide that the new features are unnecessary, I will make the necessary changes at their direction.

I would like to add that any changes can be either positive or negative, but until they are tried out, it is not worth drawing conclusions. During the Novichok winter-2015 tournament, it was already suggested to hold a Novichok tournament once a year. If everything remains as it is and nothing new is tried, which will primarily be interesting for its participants, the Novichok tournament – an official regular one – will become a tournament that used to be on ХВ.

Having a desire to make changes to the REGULAR ХВ Novichok tournament and not having the opportunity to make changes (lack of time) in the standard way - discussion, voting, making changes, it was necessary to enlist the support of at least most of the members of the Administration Committee; otherwise, this is an adventure. Holding a tournament on Hota is something else entirely. That is, on a site where ALL tournaments are held on SoD (Hota or VT were only played by mutual agreement between both players), beginners play on Hota? There should be SoD available upon request from at least one opponent.

I am writing to the АК with a request to investigate and, until a decision is made by the АК, I believe that starting the group stage tournament is IMPOSSIBLE!
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Wanting to make changes to the REGULAR HeroesWorld Tournament Novice and not having the ability to make changes (lack of time) through the standard method of discussion, voting, and implementation, it was necessary to secure the support of at least the majority of the AC members, otherwise this is an adventure. Holding a tournament on HotA is something else entirely. That is, on a site where ALL tournaments are held on SoD (on HotA or WT we only played by mutual agreement of both players), are beginners playing on HotA? There should be SoD if at least one opponent wishes to play on it.

I am writing to the AC with a request to sort this out, and until the AC makes a decision, I consider the start of the group stage tournament IMPOSSIBLE!

Rules.

1. Game version. The tournament is held on the game version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + by mutual agreement of the players HW_rulez (for correct operation, the patch must be installed by both players). By mutual agreement, games may be held on the HotA version 1.3.8 (according to the vote held among participants).

HotA is an additional version and is played only if both players agree to play it. Familiarize yourselves with the regulations first, before shouting.

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Rules.

1. Game version. The tournament is held on game version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + by mutual agreement of the players HW_rulez (for correct operation, the patch must be installed for both players). By mutual agreement, games may be held on HotA version 1.3.8 (according to the vote conducted among participants).

HotA is an additional version and is played only if both players agree to play it. Please read the regulations first before shouting.

That's good.

But AK should still figure out the procedure for making changes to REGULAR tournaments and the organizers' right to make such changes at their own discretion.
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That's good.

But the Tournament Committee should still sort out the procedure for making changes to REGULAR tournaments and the organizers' right to make such changes at their discretion.
Goodness, this is a common practice. Just like it was written before, that with mutual consent, players can play in the Weekend Tournament.
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The Tournament Новичок is not a PERSONAL tournament of the SKD, but is one of only 3-4 regular tournaments on the HeroesWorld website (Новичок, Lyubimchiki, OFB and possibly M200), therefore introducing changes should be done according to a specific system (discussion on the website, a vote, adoption of changes).

Accordingly, the introduction of RADICAL changes UNILATERALLY by the SKD (essentially a newcomer to the website) caused indignation among people who are NOT INDIFFERENT to the life of the website!

Why is everyone attacking the organizer? In all tournaments, there used to be a clause allowing playing TB by mutual agreement; this clause is even present in the rules of the winter Новичок, which hasn't ended yet. Now HotA is gradually replacing TB in this clause.
Regarding making changes to the rules of regular tournaments - it's simply laughable, start with Romantik then, who runs OFB and FB with a new set of rules each time.
As for different templates, I think that overall this is bad; it's better for a beginner to play just one. This is important, for example, to avoid getting confused with the rules when having little practice. But I highly doubt that SMKA should remain that one template.
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But I highly doubt that the SMK should remain limited to just this one template.
The main thing is that it shouldn't be Jebus... you can still recover from SMK, but DGM (Jebus-induced brain damage) seems incurable...

Regarding Hoty - in almost all tournaments, there's a rule that "players can mutually agree to change the game rules." Sometimes, instead of Heroes, they would settle disputes in poker, and a voluntary coin toss is a standard solution when time is short. So, the host didn't introduce anything new here.

Regarding "you can't unilaterally change the official rules of official tournaments" - I completely agree, but since official rules for Novichok don't exist in nature (AK promised to present a new set of rules for Hv in September, let's wait...), it's still too early to argue.

It would be better if skd participated in the development of official rules for Novichok (if he plans to continue working on it).
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I've already played the game. How do I add a report???:smile32: :smile32: :smile32: :smile32: I can't find the "New Report" button. What should I do? :smile41:

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