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Offline Fireball
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Just don't forget the topic; we're talking about the ultimate ability, not a 10-minute skirmish. Admit that "fight to the last" will be completely useless to you after 1 month of gameplay, and time will have been wasted. I prefer developing things that will be used until the final victorious battle, rather than fighting for defeat.
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Admit it, obtaining an ultimate has 3 problems: time, the drop rate of necessary skills, and the need to sacrifice good abilities. So, the question of how useful it is for developing necessary abilities is very relevant. IMHO, "fight to the last" is actually quite decent. After all, the living don't have ghosts that you can easily use to shield skeletons from powerful high-level creatures. And a single unit that always survives is a serious tactical asset. Plus, the subsequent stubborn defense stemming from it isn't useless either. It's a shame, of course, to give up evasion, but it's not critical.
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I agree, there are three problems with obtaining the ultimate skill: time, the probability of getting the necessary skills, and the need to sacrifice good abilities. So, the question of the usefulness of developing necessary abilities is very relevant. In my opinion, fighting to the last is quite good. After all, the living don't have ghosts, which you can easily use to protect skeletons from large, high-level creatures. And having one unit that always survives is a serious tactical advantage. And the subsequent solid defense is also not useless. It's a pity, of course, to give up evasion, but it's not critical.
That's what I'm talking about; some people take more extra skills, and some take fewer. Necromancers, besides acceleration, don't really need anything else. Of course, it's a pity to give up mass slowing, but potentially, with a war cry, massiveness isn't really needed, unlike other factions, where you take luck, archery, etc.
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Offline Lord Vampire
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Like beauty, this ability requires sacrifices, but I would only develop this ability for Elves and Mages, maybe also for Dwarves. As for other factions, I don't think it's worth sacrificing good skills and developing this ability so much:cool:.
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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I never try to achieve it. But in general, it doesn't really interfere with the overall development path of Elves, Demons, and Necropolises.
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I don’t even use abilities.
Эльф Даниель-сила,безстрашие,честь.

Прикольный хитрый влюблённый рыцарь-арбуз который поднимает настроение и стоит на стороне эльфов=)
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I don't even use abilities.
What are you doing? How do you disable them?
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Overall, it's a great ability, and it's good for all factions, especially for Dwarves and Elves, but it's useless for Humans.
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I don't even use abilities.
But how do you play without them?
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Overall, it's a great ability, and it's good for everyone, especially for dwarves and elves, but it's useless for humans.

How do you play without it?
Elves don't have the best ability, of course, it's good that they always deal double damage, but with a high luck stat, it often fails. The best ability is for mages :smile20:
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Elves don't have the best ability; it's good that they always deal double damage, but it often fails with an upgraded luck stat. The best ability belongs to mages.
It seems to me that your assessment is somewhat biased. You can't cast all spells in battle, and where will you get the attack from? The ultimate ability won't give the mage that much, especially compared to self-made artifacts, and it can't compete with constant disarm and skipping a turn; by that time, the army is already large.
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Tell me, as an uneducated person, does the mage ability give the hero all mass spells?
If yes, then it should be in third place; if not, then it's terribly bad, a disgrace to the entire mage race.
Worse than knights, though, they can't be disgraced any further...

This idea has already been discussed here in every possible way about fifty times, but I'll repeat: the best super abilities are for elves and dwarves.
С Пути сбивают мелкие достижения, а изощрённые суждения скрывают смысл слов. И вот уже возникают "правильное" и "неправильное"...
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Offline Lord Vampire
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Tell me, an uneducated person, does the mage ability give all mass spells to the hero?
If yes, then it is in third place, if not, then it is terribly bad, a disgrace to the entire mage race.
Worse than knights, although they can't be disgraced further...

This thought has already been discussed in every possible way here about fifty times, but I will repeat: the best super abilities are for elves and dwarves.
Firstly,
It does not give mass spells to the hero if the hero does not have the corresponding skills.
Secondly,
Although it does not give mass spells, it does give everything it does (all spells) and they are cast at an EXPERT level, even if you don't have that magic at all.
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There is nothing in the dwarf and elf abilities, because these abilities are NOTHING without a large army! But the mage ability, on the contrary, allows you to run around without an army and defeat everyone:smile24: :smile24: :smile24:
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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Offline Magnus
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Seems to me that your imperial majesty is somewhat biased. You can't cast all spells in battle, and where are you supposed to get the attack from? Ultimate won't give a mage that much, especially compared to home-brewed artifacts, and it doesn't stand a chance against constant disluck and turn skipping, as armies are quite large by then.
On the other hand, when obtaining this ability, you don't need to level up magic, as they start at expert, and the mage mostly wipes everyone out with magic—hypnotizing some of the enemy units, or summoning a phoenix, resurrecting squads, etc. For elves it's not that great, although constant luck is good, but it happens often even without the skill. But on the other hand, it's useful; the dwarf ability is wonderful, but useless against mages:)
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The Gnome and Elf abilities don't offer anything, because these abilities are WORTH NOTHING without a large army! But the Mage ability is the opposite; you can run around without an army and destroy everyone:smile24: :smile24: :smile24:
Dude, are you seriously going to run around without an army and destroy everyone at level 30???? What a stroke of luck.
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But when you get this ability, you don't need to level up magic skills, and they are immediately at the expert level. Besides, a mage mainly defeats everyone with magic. For example, he can hypnotize enemy units or summon a phoenix, resurrect units, etc. The Elves aren't very good, although having constant luck is a plus, but it often happens even without the skill. But on the other hand, it's good. The Dwarves have a remarkable ability, but it's useless against mages.
I imagine a battle between a level 35 mage hero with an army of one gremlin against a Necromancer with 30 Archliches and other units. It's obvious...:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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I present a battle: a level 35 hero of magic against an army consisting of a single gremlin, versus a necromancer with 30 archliches and other units... obviously... :rolleyes::rolleyes:
A level 35 hero doesn't go around with just one gremlin. :cool: IMHO, the best single-unit armies are for Mages, Elves, and Dwarves. Necromancers and Demons also have good ones.
P.S.: You can achieve a good single-unit army with any race, even at level 30. :p
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