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Posts from Mafia 95. The Wardens' campaign against Urubaen.Auto-translated
I’ve been thinking about it for a long time, and finally, I had an epiphany! How could we all have been so blind? Now it’s perfectly clear to me that we need to introduce a few vital rules into the games:
1) Before each game, every GM must ask Tox what role he wants to play. It would be good to give him a couple of extra defenses, and even better to make his role invulnerable and unpunishable. 2) Players are prohibited from performing actions in the game that might seem like hints about Tox’s role. This is especially true for those who are not playing on the same team as him. 3) During the game, it is strictly forbidden to deviate from Tox’s established patterns. Freedom of thought and originality are strongly discouraged. 4) For every action he takes, the “maniac” must consult with Tox.
Only by fulfilling all these conditions, and if the planets in the sky align, will Tox deign to show us his brilliant game, which we will remember for the rest of our lives. And until that moment, injustice, corruption, and GM tyranny will continue to flourish on Hv!
1) I never complained about my deaths in Might & Magic, it was even fun.
2) I wasn't the only one who felt that way, just so you know. I just took it upon myself to openly express this.
3) This is the same as a "bug exploit." It doesn't do anyone any good.
4) Well, the guy decided not to listen to me and lost. Good for him.
Tox, oh Tox. Do I need to remind you how hard you tried in Mafia 88, desperately trying to expose the investigator?;) Sure, there was a fake investigator named Tox, but that doesn't change the essence of the matter... Or do you think that only mafia members are allowed to expose themselves as investigators?
Ничто не возникает из ничего и ничто не пропадает бесследно. Если где-то чего-то убудет, то в другом месте добавится. (Закон сохранения).
Who would have thought that Tenshi and Ment are Mafia???
To be fair, I seriously hoped that a couple of townies wouldn't consider me Mafia for one reason or another. Of course, you, Master, would never miss Kosha's remarks about me... But still. I think it's perfectly normal to give hints. When Tenshi was executed, everything happened exactly as I would have done if I were in Kosha's place. Tenshi has one and a half roles, and I occupy one of them -- so, of course, one could say "I think Tenshi is Mafia." Any Mafia player could do the same, it's logical. Under the right circumstances, of course. Regarding the bet -- well, that's not cool. Seriously. It's not that it changed anything (it didn't change anything in the end), but still.
Ment, Kosha is offended here and wants to ban me, saying that I went too far. What do you think?
Toxic, we have a ban on swearing, delete it.) Well, yes, emotions are emotions. Come on, we played and played. It's just that in the future, there will be some kind of precedent, the rules will be improved, and so on. There's no need to get so upset, there's nothing to be upset about.
If you had eliminated Toxic after his first execution, it would have been -1 Mafia and -3 townies. I don't know why you rejected this idea, so don't whine about balance.
I think I was sending an ND then... Well, how can I put it, Shaman, I usually try to consider the worst-case scenarios, when your opponent acts most logically... And that everyone would rush to Toxic -- that would have been strange in my opinion. I expected that only Arya, as a lone killer, would stop by.
Tox, I’ve said it many times before what I think about this. Read the thread more carefully, okay.
By the way, you haven’t acknowledged any of your mistakes. Except for that nude photo. And even then, it was just “for fun” for you. So, I don’t think it’s necessary to apologize to you. I apologized to the normal players.
Thank you all for the game, and a special thanks to Shaman for the setting. We won the city, and despite the fact that all the riders were "de-dragonized," we successfully took Urubaen! and defeated Galbatorix! I don't quite understand why the Mafia thought that Arya would be the only one to go to Toks, and that they would just heal him... I thought they would at most shield him, so I shot to break his shield and let Oromis and Glaedr finish him off.
I didn't understand at all why Nefela asked that, and I was a little confused. I answered in a way that wouldn't accidentally reveal any unnecessary information.
Why? To become one of the cats! Actually, I was interested in how many sources the players use to get information about the meeting, so that I could 100% eliminate the possibility that Toks would have more than one role.
Being blatantly obvious about Ment's cheating is just... well, it's just too much. Like an elephant in a china shop. You didn't even try to be subtle.
ToX
Lol.Tox
A win is a win. What difference does it make how you achieve it? Even if it's through ADEPTUS MECHANICUS. Again, it's your mentality that demands a challenge.
Double lol.
Where do we go? Where do we end up when we save the world?
This was the first game where I didn't have to make any substitutions. Hooray!
My internet connection and I really gave you and Larisa a headache. Sorry about that. I'll write about the game later.
Added 12 hours and 3 minutes ago Drakkosha
We should definitely team up Nebka and Heroist...
They only recently played Sailor Moon Mafia together.)
About the game. Snow, sorry we couldn't protect you. My partner and I hesitated for a long time, but we ultimately decided that killing Tox was a higher priority than protecting you. In general, my partner and I experimented a lot, even if not always successfully, but it was fun. Lorelei, thank you for the game. Man played carefully and killed Ment (thank you for that). Overall, he played well. Thank you, Vish. Heroist and Neb had a philosophical argument, which was also entertaining. One of the most memorable moments of the game. So, Heroist, your game wasn't that bad.) Master did a good job organizing the town, but before advising other roles, read the setup and think about whether they can follow your advice. This is advice for the future. We've discussed the betting topic enough, but I'll add that it doesn't always work. For example, I really don't like being blackmailed in this way, and my reaction to such a proposal could have upset you greatly. So, I'm glad that this topic won't come up again. Nefela played well, revealed herself moderately, and made good observations. Overall, a good game. Tox, what got into you that you did what you did? Based on the Forest Kingdom, I got the impression that you know how to play Mafia and not get caught. Ment, why did you come to me anyway? I'm also curious whose idea it was to visit me on the first night. Thank you again to Larisa for agreeing to substitute for me if necessary.
Thank you to Shaman for the game. In my opinion, the setup was balanced. The only drawback is that there were too many terms. I kept getting confused about what each night role was called. Next time, let's give them simpler names.)
Added 17 minutes ago KindShaman
Darza's mass attack kills anyone who successfully reaches the target, regardless of the order in the queue. If you had blown up Tox after his first execution, it would have been -1 Mafia and -3 town. I don't know why you refused this idea, so don't complain about the balance.
But here I disagree. Since you tie the joint attack to the dragon, in this case, in my opinion, the dragon should have been the one to explode, not the pair. However, I'm glad that this is just a theoretical discussion.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк.. Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов. Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
but before advising other roles on what to do, read the setup and consider whether they can follow your advice.
I didn't predict Arya correctly, that's true. But with Oromis, it wasn't entirely clear. There was no action from him on the second night. In any case, if my plans confused the Mafia in any way, that's already a good thing.