Mafia 88. Corruption — Mafia

MasteR

11 years ago

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Personally, I think it's better not to eliminate anyone without any information in this game. The peaceful roles are very strong, and it's better not to lose them just for the sake of information. Besides, the probability of someone dying is still low.
Sorry if this question has already been asked or if the answer is somewhere – if someone dies after being infected by a corpse, will there be a clue on the corpse?

Larisa

11 years ago

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No clues are found on the corpse /topic/at/762492/

I'm not advocating for execution, and we won't execute him anyway. The usefulness of this execution is indeed highly questionable.

MasteR

11 years ago

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I fundamentally don't vote for NNV, so Execute Sezam. Because she suddenly changed her "principles" and became interested in "clues and everything else."

Небо

11 years ago

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Does the sky, infected by a corpse, know that it is infected?

It does not know.

Larisa

11 years ago

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In that case, there’s no point in waiting for any hints about the corpse.

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MasteR

11 years ago

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Larisa

No clues are given for corpses /topic/at/762492/

I'm not advocating for execution, and we won't execute anyone anyway. The usefulness of this execution is indeed very ambiguous.

Since no clue is given for corpses, those without protection against infection should avoid wandering around too much. It’s better not to stumble upon a corpse now; the ND (Negative Dungeon) from one of the city dwellers who removes corpses from the game is still quite useful

Happy Life

11 years ago

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Morning, instead of killing with armor penetration, wouldn't it be better to use a check that carries the risk of losing protection, especially in the Mafia role?

Yes.

And I didn't understand your reasoning about probabilities. Haynes is suitable for 8 peaceful roles and 4 Mafia roles, so the probability of randomly hitting a Mafia member when she is executed is 4 / (4 + 8) = 1/3. And for the others, it is 5/16, which is slightly less.

Clear.

And yes, she could easily be a blocked killer.

No. Because, based on your theory, combined with the votes and their justifications, it gives off a bad vibe to me.

Larisa

11 years ago

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Since there’s no clue given on the body, those without immunity to infection should avoid wandering around randomly.

The Mafia have redirection, and the body only infects the first person to arrive. Therefore, either don’t go at all, or it doesn’t matter.

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Morning, how is checking the Mafia better than killing them?
The idea to execute Hainess wasn’t even mine originally. Although, I probably would have come up with it. And many others would too. The idea is questionable, and that’s why I’m skeptical. In this case, I would be more wary of confidence and persistence than doubt. I can withdraw my vote if it’s important. For me, it doesn’t matter, because Hainess probably won’t be executed anyway.

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Злобный Ящур

11 years ago

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Sesame

Rats cannot be blocked, so blocking Her Highness cannot be considered an accusation of her being a rat.

I wasn't accusing her of being a rat. In my opinion, she's just someone. For the Mafia's third role, either a faceless rat (but her role isn't known) or someone who can break through healing was a candidate. I assumed the Mafia chose the option of breaking through healing (in which case, the possibility of Tox being a member of the Mafia should be considered :smile08:), but they ended up getting blocked.

However, considering

Olam Hével

doesn't appear if it fails (for example, if they block an infector, or the role has immunity).

, even this is no longer a certainty.:smile32:

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Morning

I interpret the actions as: check, redirect, bite-bite.

Why check someone if you can just kill them?:confused:

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Larisa

Her Highness fits 8 peaceful roles and 4 Mafia roles.

Actually, 3 Mafia roles. She can't be the Infector or the Dead if I understand correctly.

Larisa

11 years ago

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Yashur, why can’t it be a corpse?

Happy Life

11 years ago

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Why check someone when you can just kill them?

Because you can infect someone instead of killing them.

Morning, how is checking better than killing for the Mafia?

Because three out of five council members are unkillable, the fourth is immune to infection, and the fifth survives one assassination attempt. Also, the Mafia doesn't have many secondary night actions.
It's not a big deal to me. In this case, my vote expresses my position on your theory and my overall impression of you. If you hadn't suggested it, yes, it would be true. But there's no guarantee that Yashur isn't Mafia or a Cop, or Ursula. And it doesn't even matter. Anyone can cast a vote, and there's already a formal justification.

Злобный Ящур

11 years ago

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Well... it seems like Vol'ior was the one who blocked her. If she's dead, then he should have "stumbled upon some remains" instead of "holding the door shut."

Фывлргшкпива

11 years ago

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Yes, it's a terrible situation. There's no information, so the decision to execute me seems quite logical.
However, it's obvious that the city has many non-displayed buildings, or their temporary absence.
A vote based on guesswork seems very undesirable.

Larisa

11 years ago

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The fact that three out of five council members are unkillable, the fourth is immune to infection, and the fifth survives one assassination attempt.

Well, yes, you can of course first check, and then kill with the right method. But isn't it better to try to kill right away? If it doesn't work, well, okay, try another method later. But it might work!

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Well... it seems like Vol'ior was blocking her. If she's dead, then he should have been "running into someone's remains" instead of "holding the door."

As far as I understand, running into a corpse is displayed as a fact, without nicknames. That is, it could have happened that one event was displayed twice - once with a nickname (block), and the second time without (fact of running into a corpse)? Nebo, is that correct?