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#271
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BuglerV, I have almost no doubt that you are either a Townie or a Mafia member. Townies don't play like that. I'm trying to act in the most correct and safe way for the town right now; it's mathematically calculated, not based on some "psychology" that you use to make absurd accusations against me. If you've decided to play the psychologist, think about it: does it really make sense for a Townie to get into an argument on the very first day and make enemies? And then try to help the town make the only correct decision right now, instead of disappearing into the night like always.
Meaning 1 --- The Mafia gets into arguments and makes enemies, only to later say that it didn't make sense for the Mafia to do so.
Meaning 2 --- Mr. X is actually an informant, and the Mafia has learned something about Vistyr, which makes her specifically dangerous to the Mafia.
Meaning 3 --- A simple attempt to take the initiative.
Meaning 4 --- To make the town discuss this topic while someone else is exposed nearby, possibly in the newspaper. A distraction.
Meaning 5 --- Creating a possible NON-pairing with Vistyr, so that later, if Vistyr turns out to be Mafia, they can say, "See, I voted for him on the first day."
Meaning 6 --- Throwing out the idea to the town to vote for someone, so that if the town agrees, it will reduce the number of people in the town.
Meaning 7 --- Throwing out the idea to the town to vote for someone, so that later, if someone agrees, they can say, "Look, he agreed, he doesn't care who he votes for, he's Mafia." In other words, a setup.
Meaning 8 --- Searching for and eliminating a role that is dangerous to the Mafia. For example, the Orc. Let's say the Orc blocked a Mafia member tonight, which means he will finish them off tomorrow. It would be good for the Mafia to find him and neutralize him so that an unsuccessful attempt doesn't appear in the newspaper.

I think we can continue for a long time....
Ты думаешь о том же, о чем и я, Пинки? О_о
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Meaning 1: The Mafia stirs up trouble and makes enemies for themselves, only to later claim that there was no point in the Mafia's actions.
Meaning 2: Mr. X is actually an informant, and the Mafia learned something about Vistyr, which makes her specifically dangerous to the Mafia.
Meaning 3: A simple attempt to seize the initiative.
Meaning 4: To make the town discuss this topic while someone else nearby is exposed, possibly in a newspaper. A distraction.
Meaning 5: Creating a possible NON-pairing with Vistyr, so that later, if Vistyr turns out to be Mafia, they can say, "See, I voted him out on the first day."
Meaning 6: Throwing out information to the town, suggesting that they vote out someone, so that if the town agrees, it will reduce the number of people in the town.
Meaning 7: Throwing out information to the town, suggesting that they vote out someone, so that later, if someone agrees, they can say, "Look, he agreed, he doesn't care who he votes out, he's with the Mafia." In other words, a setup.
Meaning 8: Searching for and eliminating a role that is dangerous to the Mafia. For example, the Orc. Let's say the Orc blocked a Mafia member that night, which means he will finish them off the next night. It would be beneficial for the Mafia to find him and neutralize him so that an unsuccessful attempt doesn't appear in the newspaper.

I think we can go on for a long time....

continue. If you think about it, you can see Mafia in everything. Everything you wrote also applies to you, oh troubled psychologist:D
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#273
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Rudyy
I'm heading home, Ursula and Bugler, could you write a post summarizing today's blah-blah? And write it in one post, showing who voted against whom?

Master suggested voting for Visi and made the assumption that I'm an Orc, which seemed suspicious. Several votes were cast against him, and I responded – he replied quite calmly and continues to participate in the discussion. I can't draw a definitive conclusion yet, but I'm keeping an eye on him. Read it, it would be interesting to hear your opinion.
Larisa – she did a good analysis, I also recommend reading it.
The rest of the blah-blah didn't yield anything, a lot of reasoning about whether to trust psychology, and other irrelevant chatter.
I can't say for sure about the voting, but I think there are votes for Visi, Master, Vesp, and Bugler.
Какую бы чушь ты не нес, в ней всегда есть крупица правды.
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Everything you wrote applies to you as well, including you, oh psychologist.
But he simply responded to your statement that you had no motives to behave in that way, whether you were a mafia member or not, and nothing more.
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An alternative version of what happened at night (and I like this one more than the one in my previous post): Town: Etienne - has no special ability, but due to his ability, someone in town gets double the special ability. Renard - healed Olam Havela. Epizis - sped up the Knight of Dawn? Flame Fox - has no special ability. Unicorn - protected Arandor. Raphael - checked someone's status. Roles to choose from: Orc - gave Gekasan a hard time. Dwarf - conducted a survey. Creat - isolated Aniruddha. Order of Dawn (2 special abilities): 1) The Knight of Dawn, having two special abilities due to being sped up, first challenges the Orc to a duel and kills him (but the Orc, due to his ability, will only die the next night), and then challenges the unkillable leprechaun, Flame Fox, but of course, nothing happens. **Ment**, is the duel always displayed, regardless of the result? 2) The Chaplain heals Aniruddha. Mafia (3 special abilities): 1) Kitsune kills Olam Havela. 2) and 3) - any two options from the following three: 1. Shocker uses the "drench" ability. 2. Samurai shares protection with someone from his team. 3. The role with questions uses some kind of special ability... Hydra - bites the Knight of Dawn... or the Orc (from the phrase "As if a healthy reptilian head emerged from the sewer and bit him on the leg," it is not entirely clear who "him" is, but most likely it is the Knight). Now, everything seems to fit together. What do you think?
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VesperLindt
Well, then... Maybe you'd like to support me just for a change? ))
maybe) just tell me, are you playing or have you noticed something that I haven't?
Какую бы чушь ты не нес, в ней всегда есть крупица правды.
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What are the results of the voting?
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Aniruddha
But he simply responded to your statement about not having any motives to behave in that way, if you were a Mafia member, and nothing more.
This is all reinventing the wheel and pulling things out of thin air. Such behavior is a big and not entirely justified risk for a Mafia member, especially when there is no support. Theoretically, I could do it, but do I need to?
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If everything is unclear and we are heading towards a no-win scenario, then you can execute me, for example. I wouldn't mind being known as a complete pacifist – provided the chaplain agrees to resurrect me.
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Larisa
If everything is unclear and we are heading towards a no-win scenario, then you can execute me, for example. I wouldn't mind being known as a complete pacifist – on the condition that the chaplain agrees to resurrect me.
The chaplain will have to deal with the orc.

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Or rather, it makes sense to me. And I hope it makes sense to him too.

жизни выцветшие карточки хлам
лиц расквашенные лампочки хлам
между жидких начинаний
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Молодое зло телами в масле
Застилает взор багровый зной
Если хочешь ты чтоб я был счастлив
Наизнанку вывернись со мной
Бахромою плоть дурная драма
До рассвета нервы в решето
Валидола вмажь по вене мама
За моё счастливое ничто
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This is all reinventing the wheel and pulling ideas out of thin air. Such behavior is a big and not entirely justified risk for a Mafia, especially when there is no support. Theoretically, I could actually do this, but do I need to?
It doesn't matter. The point is that such a possibility exists in principle (I could have chosen accordingly based on the described options, or I might not have, and no one can know for sure except for you). To claim that this is absolutely impossible is at least strange.
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Larisin’s strategy isn’t bad, considering the Knight’s second attack.

жизни выцветшие карточки хлам
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Молодое зло телами в масле
Застилает взор багровый зной
Если хочешь ты чтоб я был счастлив
Наизнанку вывернись со мной
Бахромою плоть дурная драма
До рассвета нервы в решето
Валидола вмажь по вене мама
За моё счастливое ничто
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Aniruddha
It doesn't matter. The point is that such a possibility exists in principle (he could have chosen the appropriate option based on the described scenarios, or he might not have, and no one can know for sure except for you). To claim that it is absolutely impossible is at least strange.

I didn't claim that it was impossible. And I'm very flattered that you have such a high opinion of my tactical skills, but maybe we should be realistic and analyze everything from the beginning?
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Bugler, you're currently playing like "I'll accuse everyone, maybe I'll get into the Mafia."
I don't see the point in doing that for the peaceful role; can you explain why?
If you're peaceful, of course.
For the Hydra, it's a pretty good style; they might be mistaken for a peaceful player, especially if they manage to initiate the execution of a Mafia member.
For the Mafia, see your post #271; almost everything there applies. You know what I mean.
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#285
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MAFS CANNOT BEHAVE THIS WAY
MIRKS CANNOT BEHAVE THIS WAY
THEY CANNOT
THEY CANNOT
DO YOU HEAR??????????
AAAAAAA THEY CANNOT
Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made