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Heroic International – A Manifesto Auto-translated

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After the intensified clan building on our portal, some negative aspects of these actions became apparent. We started arguing with each other, quarreling, and getting offended. Clan affiliation is replacing personal friendship. Therefore, I propose creating an extra-clan, informal association based on the principles of honor and friendship. The Manifesto of the Heroic International 1 - The Heroic International (HI) is an extra-clan association of portal users. 2 - HI is an unofficial association that does not aim to create another clan. 3 - HI is not built on a clan, racial, or any other differentiating basis, but exclusively on the principle of personal friendship and mutual respect. 4 - The main goal of HI is to maintain good relations between all users and resolve any conflicts between them. 5 - To join HI, you do not need to leave your clan, you do not need to renounce its charter, slogans, and so on. All that is needed is a conscious decision from any user. 6 - The only condition for HI members is honesty towards each other, mutual respect, and a desire to resolve all issues peacefully. 7 - If HI members play against each other, fulfilling their obligations to the clan, they should not turn the duel into a battle, but treat it as a friendly game. 8 - All those who join HI and sign this manifesto undertake additional moral and ethical obligations, expressed in tolerance and respect for everyone, even those not in HI. 9 - As punitive sanctions, HI uses the Wall of Shame, where users will be placed for violating the portal rules, with an indication of the reason. 10 - If a user constantly ignores notifications from HI (on the Wall of Shame), HI has the right to contact the coordinator or Creator with a request to apply sanctions to that user. 11 - The manifesto will be supplemented as proposals from HI members are received. HEROES of all races and alignments - join us!!! Now we have become WE. Now we are united: 1) Sergh 2) ***JOKER*** 3) Xaker 4) Ann 5) Eric Wynn 6) AlexeyPank 7) Ta kotoraya... 8) Night 9) Леля 10) Nowizard 11) nprf 12) Prorock 13) GvozD 14) СТРАННиК 15) M@dM@ster 16) RAPER 17) natasha 18) VDV_forever 19) Inquisitor 20) Джомалунга 21) Tengro 22) Аделаида 23) †Smok† 24) Смок 25) Александр Г.К. 26) Darth Saruman 27) S@ndro 28) Saruman 29) Predvestnik 30) R@zer 31) Varg-Nar 32) Atalasa 33) Alex_R 34) vbn 35) Маэлгрим 36) ewgeniy 37) АЛУКАРД 38) SandroXXL 39) vuzzza 40) XEL 41) Starhan 42) eXeCuToR 43) Dark_Knight 44) General ZeT 45) Brackman 46) Cheri@ 47) Дубровин Павел 48) Light God 49) loi 50) _Prizrak_ 51) shaddar 52) Mefisto 53) DarkMind 54) NIGHT_HUNTER 55) Vayshan 56) COLORADO 57) OUTLAW 58) T@mar@ 59) Leolopus 60) Kitty 61) Белый Волк 62) Denminator 63) Cr@zy Wolf 64) Malificus 65) DemonWarrior 66) Vip.rus 67) Малый 68) Mutare Drake
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I think that the Game Instructor (GI) should simply make comments to the participant, and a comment made by the GI should carry more weight than a comment from an individual forum user. With this comment, the GI would point out to the forum administration a user who has violated the portal's rules or simply moral and ethical norms, and whether to ban the person or not is up to the authorized individuals to decide. ...although I wouldn't mind if the GI were given the right to ban a user for a certain period of time (but not permanently); I think such a method of dealing with violators would be very effective.
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I think that the Game Instructor (GI) should simply make comments to the participant, and a comment made by the GI should carry more weight than a comment from an individual forum user. With this comment, the GI would point out to the forum administration a user who has violated the portal's rules or simply moral and ethical norms, and whether to ban the person or not is up to the authorized individuals to decide... although I wouldn't mind if the GI were given the right to ban a user for a certain period of time (but not permanently); I think such a method of dealing with violators would be very effective.

I agree! Well done, Ada! Let them be able to ban for 1 hour or a day, like a mini-ban... :)
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But for this, it is necessary to establish coordination in the actions of the Guild. All members of the Guild should point out inappropriate behavior in this or some other special topic. And only then should they make comments and request a ban. Everything should be open and clear.
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AlexeyPank;70502
But for this, it is necessary to coordinate the actions of the GMs. All members of the GM team should point out inappropriate behavior in this or some special topic. And then, only then, give comments and a request for a ban. Everything should be open and clear.

For example, impose some restrictions... like no more than two 2-hour bans per day, with an interval of 1-3 hours between them.
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Darth Saruman;70574
for example, introduce some limitations... like no more than two 2-hour bans per day, with an interval of 1-3 hours between them.
But I still have another opinion to share. All these measures are one way to lose people from the resource. Well, they banned Tigrenok. Now, on a friendly resource, he's saying bad things about this resource. Gorbik banned me once, and what good did it do him? Did I contribute much to him after that? And imagine - the more people you drive away from the resource, the more publicity you give to your resource - it's a sure thing. Do you have nothing better to do? Organize tournaments, then maybe there will be fewer out-of-game conflicts.
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Yeah... let them swear left and right:smile13: What's so bad about that? Will you ban them? - They'll just swear on another portal anyway:smile20:

They should be banned!!! And smart people on a friendly portal should first look at the user Tigryonok's feedback page before listening to him.
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Yeah... let them curse everyone left and right :smile13: what's the big deal? You'll ban them? they'll just keep cursing on another portal anyway :smile20:
They MUST be banned!!! And smart people on a friendly portal should first look at the user warnings page for Tigryonok before listening to him.
Well, he's still hanging out there now and apparently isn't cursing anymore - maybe there was some other way to influence it, as I said, I don't know the situation with him. I'm not saying that no one should ever be banned. Apparently, there are complete psychos and I've seen such people, but not here. It's just that the more bodies monitoring morale etc., the more people will start having sticks put in their spokes, posts slowed down, etc., even over trifles - they'll want some activity - the "//dissections//" will begin. I saw such a clearly established system on HP. And look what's happening to it now. It's going through a Schism.
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I'm not suggesting banning for every minor infraction. But when it comes to insults, punishment is necessary. You could start with a "Wall of Shame." Let everyone see who's there and why. And a ban should be the absolute last resort.
P.S. I've always been against permanently banning TIGRENOK.
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AlexeyPank;70944
I am not calling for bans for the slightest violation. But if it comes down to insults, then punishment is necessary. We could start with a Wall of Shame. And let everyone see who ended up there and why. A ban should be for the absolute last resort.
P.S. I have always been against the permanent ban of TIGRENOK.
Oh, now that's right. Like a wall of shame, yes, but without restricting the person's number of posts in the process. Like, several such warnings without any restriction on writing, and then maybe a ban. This feature should be given to the GI, along with this count of violations and warnings. And afterwards, the GI points out to the responsible person who needs to be finished off—well, maybe not permanently, but for a certain period. I would also support such a function for the GI.
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Made changes to the GI manifesto. Awaiting suggestions on how to organize the Hall of Shame.
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AlexeyPank;70985
I made changes to the Guild Initiative manifesto. I'm waiting for suggestions on how to organize the "Wall of Shame."
But if we assume that all forum members join the Guild Initiative, who will they punish? But okay, this is just a hypothetical assumption. Although I don't plan to join anything anymore, joining a clan was already a heroic act for me, however, I'm still allowed to follow the developments here – I will ;)
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I wouldn’t mind joining either…
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The following idea arose: to hold a tournament for the Guild Cup. The essence of the tournament: 1) Only guild members participate. 2) A draw is held, and we are divided into teams. 3) The tournament is held on different versions of the game. 4) The winning team is determined. Why do all this? To further unite guild members and give different people the opportunity to play on the same team. Share your thoughts.
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AlexeyPank;78584
I had the following idea: to hold a tournament for the Guild Cup. The essence of the tournament:
1) Only Guild members can participate.
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Share your thoughts.
I don't like the essence of the tournament, although I might be missing something, so please explain it to me so I can understand. It seems that, on the one hand, you are trying to force everyone to join the Guild (well, if you want to participate in the Guild tournament, then join this organization). And on the other hand, you are forcibly excluding ordinary forum members from the Guild, which contradicts your Guild's international ideas about friendship, equality, and so on, depriving them of the opportunity to participate in your tournament. For my part, I would like to remind you in advance that tournaments with participation restrictions will not be taken into account in my rating. You can, of course, consider them in your own. However, we discussed this with AmberSoler in that large thread where we initially started discussing our rating systems. I just forgot to mention this in the thread about my rating. I will add this point there now, because in this matter, AmberSoler and I came to the same conclusion - that tournaments with participation restrictions, regardless of their quota, should not be taken into account in the rating!
PS. I thought that instead of solving Clan issues, the Guild leadership would engage in something like organizing closed tournaments. And what's next? Will all forum participants join the Guild? It will become an organization within an organization. First, we all gathered on the forum as Heroes fans. Then we divided into Clans to make it more interesting. Then we decided to gather everyone in a Guild again to live in harmony. What's next? In addition to the official forum tournaments, there will also be tournaments for the Guild Cup. And then they immediately suggest dividing into teams randomly by drawing lots (like Clans) and organizing a tournament. This can have the opposite effect. Instead of strengthening friendship between Clans, you will achieve that even members of the same Clan may quarrel in tournaments where they end up on different teams. In short, I'm already confused myself :) Get me out of this loop :)