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After the intensified clan building on our portal, some negative aspects of these actions became apparent. We started arguing with each other, quarreling, and getting offended. Clan affiliation is replacing personal friendship. Therefore, I propose creating an extra-clan, informal association based on the principles of honor and friendship. The Manifesto of the Heroic International 1 - The Heroic International (HI) is an extra-clan association of portal users. 2 - HI is an unofficial association that does not aim to create another clan. 3 - HI is not built on a clan, racial, or any other differentiating basis, but exclusively on the principle of personal friendship and mutual respect. 4 - The main goal of HI is to maintain good relations between all users and resolve any conflicts between them. 5 - To join HI, you do not need to leave your clan, you do not need to renounce its charter, slogans, and so on. All that is needed is a conscious decision from any user. 6 - The only condition for HI members is honesty towards each other, mutual respect, and a desire to resolve all issues peacefully. 7 - If HI members play against each other, fulfilling their obligations to the clan, they should not turn the duel into a battle, but treat it as a friendly game. 8 - All those who join HI and sign this manifesto undertake additional moral and ethical obligations, expressed in tolerance and respect for everyone, even those not in HI. 9 - As punitive sanctions, HI uses the Wall of Shame, where users will be placed for violating the portal rules, with an indication of the reason. 10 - If a user constantly ignores notifications from HI (on the Wall of Shame), HI has the right to contact the coordinator or Creator with a request to apply sanctions to that user. 11 - The manifesto will be supplemented as proposals from HI members are received. HEROES of all races and alignments - join us!!! Now we have become WE. Now we are united: 1) Sergh 2) ***JOKER*** 3) Xaker 4) Ann 5) Eric Wynn 6) AlexeyPank 7) Ta kotoraya... 8) Night 9) Леля 10) Nowizard 11) nprf 12) Prorock 13) GvozD 14) СТРАННиК 15) M@dM@ster 16) RAPER 17) natasha 18) VDV_forever 19) Inquisitor 20) Джомалунга 21) Tengro 22) Аделаида 23) †Smok† 24) Смок 25) Александр Г.К. 26) Darth Saruman 27) S@ndro 28) Saruman 29) Predvestnik 30) R@zer 31) Varg-Nar 32) Atalasa 33) Alex_R 34) vbn 35) Маэлгрим 36) ewgeniy 37) АЛУКАРД 38) SandroXXL 39) vuzzza 40) XEL 41) Starhan 42) eXeCuToR 43) Dark_Knight 44) General ZeT 45) Brackman 46) Cheri@ 47) Дубровин Павел 48) Light God 49) loi 50) _Prizrak_ 51) shaddar 52) Mefisto 53) DarkMind 54) NIGHT_HUNTER 55) Vayshan 56) COLORADO 57) OUTLAW 58) T@mar@ 59) Leolopus 60) Kitty 61) Белый Волк 62) Denminator 63) Cr@zy Wolf 64) Malificus 65) DemonWarrior 66) Vip.rus 67) Малый 68) Mutare Drake
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I suggest that all members of the Guild inform each other via private messages or through ICQ about any violations of the portal rules they notice, such as flaming or insulting users. After that, all members of the Guild express their disapproval of such posts.
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I suggest that all members of the Guild inform each other via private messages or ICQ about any violations of the portal rules they notice, such as flaming, insulting users, etc. After that, all members of the Guild express their disapproval of such posts.
Maybe it would be better to discuss this openly, because this is like snitching and is generally not a good thing.
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That’s exactly what I meant. After an open discussion, a decision will be made about whether or not to issue a disapproval. It’s just that these things are better discussed not in this thread, but via private message or ICQ, so as not to provoke an inappropriate reaction from other users.
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I absolutely agree with you, Alex... It's the right decision – there's no need to give anyone a reason to be hostile (although what am I advising here... You know that yourself). Please register my candidacy for membership in the Heroic International (if you deem me worthy ;)). Regarding the proposed ideas – I agree with everything Alex suggested.




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Anyone who supports the idea of a Guild of Mapmakers is welcome to join. Especially if it's a moderator. ;) Welcome, Tengro. Now there are 20 of us.
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If we all together show the person inciting hatred that we are against it, then perhaps he will reconsider his position so as not to find himself in isolation.

There have been so many arguments about the ethical issue of excluding people from Tournaments. And what? Has anything changed??? Only Varg-Nar drew conclusions. While the rest are once again acting in a way that provokes a new conflict!
Just today I read the new rules: an application must be submitted by 31, and the tournament begins on 1. Well, I will never submit an application if I am not sure that I will like the task. And what is the point of such a clause in the rules??? - Only to incite conflict, there is no other reason!

And I will always discuss issues openly; no private messages are needed for this!!! Night is absolutely right!
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Okay, let's discuss everything openly. But let's not discuss personal grievances like: "I wasn't invited," "He writes nonsense," "I don't play with losers," and so on. Let's discuss genuinely serious insults directed at a particular user. The Guild is not about supervision; it's about uniting people who value friendship and mutual respect.
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Okay, let's discuss everything openly. But let's not discuss personal grievances like: "I wasn't included," "He writes nonsense," "I don't play with losers," and so on. Let's discuss genuinely serious insults directed at a particular user. The Guild is not about supervision; it's about uniting those who value friendship and mutual respect.

Good day.

But we need to establish a system for alerting about conflict hotspots, as they can arise at any time and in any place.

Perhaps we could set up such an alert system in this thread, openly? Or we could create a separate thread.

Sincerely,
Prorock.

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Для добродетелей и мира.


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I agree, I think we should fight rudeness primarily not through general condemnation, but by setting our own example, proving that civilized discussions can replace any argument. Agree that it's unpleasant to be rude to a polite person, but if you show your teeth, then you shouldn't be offended later and start topics about high moral principles. P.S. You need to start with yourself.
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Okay, let's discuss everything openly. But let's not discuss personal grievances like: "I wasn't invited," "He writes nonsense," "I don't play with losers," and so on. Let's discuss truly serious insults directed at one user or another. The GI is not about supervision; it's about uniting those who value friendship and mutual respect.

The insults were sent privately and subtly! And if the admin doesn't resolve this, we'll have no choice but to leave! That's it. Don't you see what's happening and why?!
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GI isn't doing anything yet. Everything is still just discussion. 2 PALADIN: I can provide many examples of your inappropriate behavior. Besides direct insults, there were also hints like "everyone here is a loser." That's not good. I would be offended by such things and express my disapproval, but it's not in my nature.

2 Adelaide: Are you with us?

Everyone: So, should we create a separate thread to discuss inappropriate behavior?
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There’s already a thread on this:
/topic/1188/
It helped me personally.
But I think it's better not to discuss inappropriate behavior, but simply make peace and improve relationships. This seems more constructive; why should we argue?
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How many arguments have there been about the ethical issue of not including people in the Tournaments. And so what? Has anything changed??? Only Varg-Nar drew conclusions. And the rest are again trying to provoke a new conflict!
Today I read the new rules: you need to submit an application by the 31st, and the tournament starts on the 1st. Well, I will never submit an application if I am not sure that I will like the task. And what is the purpose of such a rule??? - Only to stir up conflict, there is no other reason!

And I will always discuss issues openly, no need for private messages for this!!! Night is absolutely right!


You are probably hinting at me:) Well, I just didn't fix it, I forgot:o. Participants are still signing up today. You just needed to tell me to fix this point in the rules, that's all. You could do it in the thread or in a private message! What's the problem?:confused:

And your application does not mean that you are simply obliged to play. No one is forcing anyone! You could have told me directly, and I would have quickly fixed it:D.
He who does nothing makes no mistakes!

P.S. There has never been a case where I offended anyone in terms of registration and participation in the tournament. That would be a crime!

Therefore, I kindly ask you to participate in the Offline Tournament Best of the best for Heroes 3, dear Nprf!

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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Okay. Then let's make the AI the arbitrator in all disputes and arguments between users. We will constructively resolve all grievances.
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You probably meant to hint at me:) Well, I just didn't fix it, I forgot:o. Participants are still being registered today. You just needed to tell me to correct this point in the rules, that's all. You could have said it in the thread or in a private message! What's the problem?:confused:

And your application doesn't mean that you are simply obligated to play. No one is forcing anyone! You could have just told me directly, and I would have quickly fixed it:D.
He who does nothing makes no mistakes!

P.S. There has never been a case where I offended someone regarding registration and participation in the tournament. That would be a crime!

Therefore, I kindly ask you to participate in the Offline Tournament "Best of the best" for Heroes 3, dear Nprf!

Sincerely, VDV_forever

I wasn't hinting, I meant it that way. Those who are aware of past disputes will understand, and I wrote it this way because I was interested in the reaction of the tournament organizer, not the guild as such. The question is, why is an application needed in the first place??? Especially since so many arguments have been made about this! Whoever plays in the tournament is a participant!!! I think it should be that way! If someone is not accepted because of this rule, how will I, as a participant, be able to look them in the eye afterwards!? So many people voted against the "Knights of Honor" tournament with their feet, just because of this rule!
That's why I think there is an attempt to provoke a conflict.
I first see if I like the map and the task, and then I decide whether to play or not.

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The guild hasn't done anything yet. Everything is still just discussion. 2 PALADIN: I can give many examples of your incorrect behavior. Besides direct insults, there were also hints like "everyone here is a loser." That's not good. I would be offended by such things and express my disapproval, but that's not my style.

2 Adelaide: Are you with us?

To everyone: So, should we create a separate thread to discuss incorrect behavior?

Incorrect behavior is a moderation issue. Nothing more.
And to say that PALADIN ever wrote that everyone is a loser is unlikely. He wrote that he already has people to play with online and doesn't see the point in playing with unknown people. And that's how it is. And I, like any of us, choose who to play with online and who not to. Everyone chooses someone who is roughly their equal.