Is a chat feature needed on HeroesWorld? — Suggestions and improvements.

HwKeeper

4/14/2012 8:54 PM UTC

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Creator

Most likely, if there's a vote in favor of adding a chat feature, it won't be in the same format as before on the forum; instead, it will probably be a chat on a separate page with account authorization for HeroesWorld.

I noticed that some people believe that if a new chat is added, it will be "on the forum," so I think it's worth clarifying this by referring to the first post in this thread: /topic/at/561078/

Zybr

4/14/2012 9:02 PM UTC

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I noticed that you often feel like others don't understand you. I understood what you wanted to point out; the thing is, you need to do it in a normal and unambiguous way; otherwise, you might get an appropriate response.

And you got that appropriate response.

I have a normal attitude towards people who are interested in obscure topics about heroes that different forum users like.

Then don't call such people "who knows who."

I ask that you don't extend "my culture" to any other nuances.

Regarding my culture, it means that the format of communication should be decent (without swearing and insults).

Well, that's great; I think everyone agrees with that. Please adhere to this, and everything will be fine.

Guys, R55Max, Lider1, for goodness sake, can you please stop belittling those who don't play Heroes III or Heroes in general and stop praising the merits of your forum thread?

I believe that each side has expressed their position sufficiently, and there is no point in continuing this argument. Let's all live in peace, as they say

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Zybr

4/14/2012 9:03 PM UTC

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I noticed that there's an opinion in the thread that if a new chat is implemented, it will be "on the forum," so it's worth slightly correcting this opinion by referring to the first post in this thread http://forum.heroesworld.ru/showthre...078#post561078

In other words, will it be an approximate equivalent of the chat on the portal?

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Драккошка

4/14/2012 9:12 PM UTC

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It's a pity that the old chat won't be available; so many memories... Well, at least something similar to it should be implemented. A top-10 list of frequent posters (for nostalgia!), the ability to edit messages, and moderators issuing kick bans...
By the way, will it be the case that an HW moderator is also a chat moderator? Although, if authorization is done through an HW account, I think that's how it will be.

А, вот почему.

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HwKeeper

4/14/2012 9:13 PM UTC

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Zybr

So, will it be a similar chat to the one on the portal?

I can't say anything about this, as I haven't used the chat on heroesportal. But the point is that there won't be a chat on the main page of the forum; if the voting ends in favor of a chat, it will be a separate page with HeroesWorld account authorization.

Победитель

4/15/2012 4:28 AM UTC

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You have listened to a dialogue on the topic of "What the chat could be like": D.

I can't say anything about this, as I haven't used the chat on heroesportal. But the point is that there won't be a chat on the main page of the forum (if the voting ends in favor of the chat), it will be a separate page with authorization using a HeroesWorld account.

It doesn't change much. You just need to create an additional bookmark in your browser. Besides, the issue of whether some people will be uncomfortable seeing the chat is being resolved: those who don't want to see it won't. So, this is actually better :).

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Dirty_Player

4/15/2012 5:04 AM UTC

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This will be a separate page with account authorization for HeroesWorld.

This is a very well-thought-out and correct approach! I hope the implementation will be top-notch!

P.S.: Could someone post a screenshot of the chat on the portal as an example?

Ment

4/15/2012 7:43 PM UTC

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Regarding the "Everything about everything" section, if it's still relevant. Firstly, we shouldn't be selfish. There are many people on our forum who are no longer as interested in discussing Heroes as they used to be. And that's not surprising: what once caused great excitement eventually becomes tiresome, and instead of spending days on it, they now spend only a couple of hours a week. A couple of pleasant hours, but still no more. There are people who are not interested in the game at all and never have been. And what now? Should they somehow interfere with others just by being here? But they are very helpful, including to the fans of Heroes. Because if it weren't for the social and entertainment section, they would never have appeared on the forum. They won't appear – they won't boost the rating. They won't boost the rating – the site will drop in Google's search results. Maybe just a couple of positions, maybe even one, but that's enough for half of the newcomers to end up on a different resource, the one that will be ranked slightly higher. And that's a direct harm to the Heroes fans on this forum. That's the simple math.

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dom2

5/29/2012 4:01 AM UTC

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Please give a chat to the 3 online group pls. It's really great for discussing current games and streams, of which there are often several a day, and for giving/receiving up-to-date info (game requests, those same streams).

(Preferably, though, that there be no naked, empty flood, which some people here slyly call communication—like "hi, hi, oh I scratched my heel, how about you?"—but there are many adults in the 3 online group, we'll figure it out somehow)

P.S.
I created a similar thread with a poll in the 3 online topic, because I'm almost 100% sure that the "three-ers" have no clue.

No need to fear that useful info will be lost—if something substantial crystallizes during the discussion, it is always recorded. That's how it has always been and there are no reasons to think otherwise...

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ariputra

5/29/2012 9:33 AM UTC

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dom2

Please add a chat for the online game. It’s great to discuss current games and streams; there are often several of them each day. We can give and receive up-to-date information (requests for games, those same streams).

(Ideally, it shouldn't be filled with pointless chatter that some people here cunningly call communication – like "hello, hello, oh, I scratched my heel, how about you?" – but there are many adults in this community, so we will figure it out somehow.)

P.S.
I created a similar topic with a poll in the Online Game 3 thread because I am almost 100% sure that players don't even know about it.

You don't have to worry about useful information being lost – if something worthwhile emerges during the discussion, it is always recorded. That has always been the case, and there is no reason to think otherwise...

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HAndOS

1/13/2013 11:52 AM UTC

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I vote for the chat because sometimes it’s better than any forum topic.

Ruwshun

5/22/2013 11:19 PM UTC

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If anyone is still following this thread, I can suggest the #HOMM channel on Rusnet. Mastering IRC is much easier than it seems at first glance. No, really!

Lider1

9/17/2013 7:23 PM UTC

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Dark Jack

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I'm leaving the site, there's nothing else to do
Dear graphic artists of the project, please accept the challenge of creating a chat
:smile49:

The creator doesn't care about the site at all, and everything related to new features.
He promised to create an automatic rating system back in February 2012. Well, it's still "in progress." He said it would be ready in the summer, but he didn't specify which year :D :D :D

And the Heroes players really need it...

Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того

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HwKeeper

9/19/2013 3:18 PM UTC

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Lider1

The Creator doesn't care about the website at all, and he doesn't care about any new features.
He promised to create an automatic rating system back in February 2012. And it's still "in development." He said it would be ready in the summer, but he didn't specify which year :D :D :D

And the players really need it...

If the Creator treated the website the way you described, dear Lider1, then we probably wouldn't be here talking, and HeroesWorld would have been shut down about 5 years ago.

The Creator has never made any public statements promising new features by a specific date. There were private discussions about new features with moderators and coordinators, with specific plans.

New features were planned, there were specific deadlines, but the plans failed for a number of reasons. Development was started on a new plan on a new platform, and this plan is currently being implemented, not as quickly as we would like, but the work is continuing.

The development is being done by one person on a non-commercial basis, in his free time, and the amount of work is very large, which is why the whole process is taking so long.

We could hire a team of programmers ([URL="http://rabota.yandex.ru/salary.xml?text=php%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82"]average salary in Moscow[/URL]), I'm sure new features would appear much faster, but considering that HeroesWorld is a non-commercial project, it probably won't be able to afford to pay for such a team.

If you want to invest a few thousand USD in the development of HeroesWorld as a charitable contribution, please contact me in a private message.

Lider1

9/19/2013 4:25 PM UTC

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There were not only private conversations with coordinators and moderators. Back in January 2010, I wrote about this problem in a PM. 4 years have passed, and it’s still stuck in the same place. I understand that hiring someone to handle this won't be free. But I do not understand why other Heroes resources have it: HeroesPortal, WCL, even the shabby and dead DreamCatcher site. And we still don't! And here's the paradox: those sites have fewer players, while people actually play here. Some of them have even folded entirely. After all, Heroes3 doesn't get any newer year after year. And it's worth noting that the main users of the HeroesWorld forum are not players of Heroes 1, 2, 4, or even 5, but specifically Heroes 3.
That's the mystery. How were they able to do it, and we weren't?

Manually counting a thousand reports is hardly a joy, and moreover, the result of the count is just a formality. There's no sporting intrigue. There's no motivation to play more in order to overtake players A, B, C.
It turns out — whatever happens, happens.

About the money: if my financial situation were better, I would donate myself. But unfortunately, I can't afford it.
By the way, the suggestion of donations isn't that farcical — we could place an announcement somewhere at the top of the entire Heroes 3 section, with wallet numbers for donations. Who knows, maybe someone will chip in, a little from everyone. It would make things easier.

Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того