Posts from "Новичок-2012. Winter"

Posting things on the forum should be the last resort. By doing so, you primarily harm the organization, which clearly doesn't deserve it.

Oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my....:eek:

What a load of nonsense. How much longer will you keep poking fun at whether or not such a victory is needed? If someone writes that it's needed, then it's their right.

I recently had a case where I found my mistake in a won game 3-4 days later, even though the report was already confirmed, and the mistake didn't play any role at all; it was a 100% victory. So, I had to replay, and then I lost in the next round, and my opponent advanced.

Regarding the review of saves, Dirty is right about it for now, but I think this point isn't quite well-developed. There are situations where the mistake happens at night, there are no judges available, and nerves are at their limit, including because of all these arguments. You don't want to postpone it, or you don't have time to play later, and it's unclear when it will be possible. We need to somehow select a group of about 10-15 qualified players who can always come to the rescue in reviewing saves and have the right to review the disputed situation at that moment, so that everyone can continue playing right away. And then, the tournament judge, if they suspect any violations or discrepancies, will interpret and investigate. This would significantly save time.

There are situations where an error occurs at night, there are no judges available, and everyone is on edge, including because of these various disputes. People don't want to postpone the game, or they might not have time to play later, and it's unclear when they'll be able to. We need to identify a group of about 10-15 qualified players who can always be available to help review save files and have the authority to review the disputed situation at that moment, so that everyone can continue playing immediately.

I strongly disagree with this. The decision should be made by the judge (or judges) who is officially selected for the tournament. Some "authorities" should not interfere in someone else's business. If they can't agree, they should postpone the game.

Dimast and ariputra, please wait for the general opinion of all the tournament judges to resolve your situation. P.S. Please refrain from continuing the discussion about this dispute on the forum.

26-27.02.12 In0k (Red, Rampart, Ivor, Ivor) def Snooppy (Blue, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) Jebus Cross, 226

It happened. I relaxed prematurely after feeling my advantage, for which I was ruthlessly punished.

I didn't like the respawn right away: clunky, guards were mean, only one road into the unknown, ГО is a 3-day journey (via fast roads at maximum speed with advanced logistics and gloves :eek: ). Angel cache with a box of 60 archers behind 20+ liches; I had nothing to hit them with in the first week (started with 23 archers, no caches, and lost 5 on goats thanks to timely morale; hives were also impenetrable). Only 4 pokemon caches were a plus, which allowed me to take the console-three in the beginning of the second week. In the end, I only got a cache in the second week and a late entry into the treasure zone (on 134). Ivor managed to get control and professionally maintained a respectful distance; Vale desperately lacked DD for the final push—as soon as she closed in to striking distance, Ivor jumped behind the mountains. But even without DD, there were two real chances to pin Ivor down, however, thanks to several timely wrong decisions, those chances were successfully squandered. A logical defeat due to careless play, though the match turned out to be educational.

Thanks for the game. Looking forward to a rematch in the final :) (but if anything, we can do it sooner;) ).

P.S. I recorded a movie of the first 3 weeks, then stopped: got tired of overloading the PC, the network card was periodically freezing, not to mention the constant crashes...

02/28/2012. Dimast (red Castle of Valesk) def. ariputra (blue Dungeon of Shahti) 126 Panic.

1) ariputra receives a technical defeat in the match for violating the "Rules of online games in Heroes III and the seasonal Rating Tournament" according to clause 5.6.5.

5.6.5. It is allowed to pass by guard posts without destroying them, if:
- the player has already passed through this post (i.e., destroyed one of the guards);
- the player saw the opponent destroy one of the guards or pass through this post;
- there is any other undeniable evidence that the guard was destroyed.

2) Dimast receives a penalty for a double violation of the rules.

1. Violation of clause V of the "Rules of online games in Heroes III and the seasonal Rating Tournament".

V. Non-standard and controversial situations. Judging.
Fair play
The most important rule: players must play fairly and respect each other.
- It is forbidden to use cheat codes and all kinds of "bugs" during the match.
- No one, except the judge/tournament host or a member of the Arbitration Committee, has the right to open the save file of an unfinished match, and only in the event of a controversial situation in the match. If, at the moment a controversial situation arises that requires opening the save files, there is no contact with the judge/host/Arbitration Committee, the match must be interrupted and saved by both participants until contact with the judges is established.
- It is forbidden to open the map on which the game is being played in the editor until the match is over.
The match is considered finished when one player has completely destroyed the other or one of them has surrendered, which must be confirmed via ICQ. Only after this is it allowed to open the save files and view the map in the editor.
All actions that occur on the players' computers during the match and/or related to the unfinished game are the responsibility of the players who agreed to the game.

2. Also, for violating the decision on controversial situations

And also. If you suddenly have problems and disputes during the game, immediately contact the hosts and judges, because there are many of them, so it is very likely that someone will be online.
If no one is available, calmly save the game and postpone it. Then write a private message to the judges - in the upper right corner of any page of the forum, there are the words Private Messages, click on them, select the menu on the left - New Message, enter the names of the recipients:

Scorpiona; Gomunguls; GoD; Pit for LM

and describe your problem.
Please, resolve all disputes in this civilized way, and not by arguing on the forum.

- receives a negative result for the match, as well as a strict REPRIMAND:smile29: and a warning about disqualification from the tournament for such violations in the future!

3) The result of the match on 02/28/2012. Dimast (red Castle of Valesk) def. ariputra (blue Dungeon of Shahti) 126 Panic is considered invalid. The match will be replayed.

4) We want to warn all players that in the future, for posting such situations on the forum, the player who does this will be disqualified!!!:smile48:

If you suddenly have problems and disputes during the game, immediately contact the hosts and judges, because there are many of them, so it is very likely that someone will be online.
If no one is available, calmly save the game and postpone it. Then write a private message to the judges - in the upper right corner of any page of the forum, there are the words Private Messages, click on them, select the menu on the left - New Message, enter the names of the recipients:

Scorpiona; Gomunguls; GoD; Pit for LM and describe your problem.
Please, resolve all disputes in this civilized way, and not by arguing on the forum.

2-3 pairs of players will not have time to play their matches, so the deadline for the round is extended to 03/04/2012 inclusive.

1.03.12 PlayHeroes_HP (Stronghold, Crag Hack, Galthran) def SeniorPomidor (Conflux, random, Pasis, Bron) mininosta, 214
I'll write a brief report.
I rolled myself a Stronghold (playing it maybe the fifth time) and my opponent got a Conflux. Started without restarts. Rolled comps:
mine - Swamp, Necro, Tower; opponent's - Rampart, Castle, Dungeon.
Played on Unlim.
The spawn was decent, but all the comps were very far, so on the first week I only took Swamp, didn't place the bears, 1,2,3,5 in Castle, in Swamp the ducks in Citadel. On the second week I went to take Necro, and on the third week Tower, leveling up along the way.
Then I started gathering Angels. After taking all the cons and clearing the spawn, I went into the treasure zone. On turn 147 or 211 I peeked into the tavern and saw that my opponent was roaming on Archangels, then I scrolled the map, and he was even at my home.
There was an evacuation signal. At that time I was still weak for FB, in the treasure zone I was gathering ducks. I had to take emergency measures. From Swamp I bought hydras and ducks, and also bought a loser to search for Dragon Utopia. He finds the Utopia, the next day I take it, and there's all good!!! Book of Earth, shield +4 all, sword to attack +12. I teleport to Swamp, where my opponent then ran to; he decided to attack me, he was stronger in stats, but thanks to the explosion in FB, mine won.
Thanks for the interesting game!
Renamed all attached saves from The_Bloody_fighterr to PlayHeroes.

1.03.12 PlayHeroes_HP (Stronghold, Kreg Hex, Galtran) def SeniorPomidor (Flax, random, Paxis, Bron) mini-nosta, 214

Got a defective Bron with defective boots that give +15% resistance. It never worked, even near unicorns.

Thanks for the game!

2.03.2012 Zzzloi (red, Stronghold, Gunnison, Gunnison) def gnoll (blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 2cm4d3 133

Started without rests, respawn was decent, although there were only 2 external dwellings of ogres, which we never got around to, and a wolf dwelling. Broke through to a secondary Rampart, next to 3 crypts, took it unsuccessfully, lost a lot of army. Attacked a group of vampires, freed Zydar level 10 with expert fire, but from the entire first week army only a bear remained. On the 2nd took another Rampart, 2 Dragon Fly Hives, thought about going into the treasure zone, but then the opponent runs in and stands next to my main on 127. On 131 I can't attack him, but I can't leave the Castle either. Therefore, Gunn loses a turn, sitting in the castle (though I built Valhalla and Mage Guild, bought a spell book, Gunn has mass slow). In the meantime, the archer with a marksman broke through the harpies and took a cape for +2 knowledge and strength and passed it to a scout hero, he runs to deliver it, but runs into the Miner, he has expert tactics. But then the opponent goofed a bit, started killing pixies, leaving the centaur - the turn passes to me and the scout hero managed to escape, handing the cape to Gunn (which ended up being very clutch, since knowledge was only 1). The opponent brings reinforcements, killing almost all of my scout heroes, captures the Rampart. I run at him but am a couple of movement points short (forgot to speed up Gunn). The opponent sits in the Rampart, building a Citadel. I attack with Gunn level 10 (15,5,5 60 mana) 5 bears, 14 Wyverns, 11 birds and meat. Miner level 12 (9,10,3 60 mana) 1 angel, 6 manticores, 26 Evil Eyes, 14 greater medusas, 79 Troglodytes. We had a long shootout with archers and marksmen, the advantage in meat decided it in the end. The opponent had too few Troglodytes, I don't understand why he ran at me.
Thanks for the game!

2.03.2012 Zzzloi (red, Stronghold, Gurnison, Gurnison) def gnoll(blue, Dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) 2cm4d3 133

started without rests, respawn was decent, although there were only 2 external dwellings of ogres, which we never got around to, and a wolf external dwelling. broke through to a secondary — Rampart, next to it 3 crypts, took it poorly, lost a lot of army. attacked a group of vampires, freed Zydar lvl 10 with expert fire, but from the entire first week's army only a bear remained. on the 2nd I took another Rampart, 2 Dragon Fly Hives, was thinking of going into the treasure zone, but then the opponent runs over and stands next to my main on 127. on 131 I can't attack him, but I can't leave the castle either. so Gurni wastes a turn sitting in the castle (though I built Valhalla and the Mage Guild, bought a spell book, Gurni got mass slow) during this time the shooter with archery broke the harpies and took a cloak of +2 knowledge and power and passed it to a scout hero, he runs to deliver it, but runs into a miner, he has expert tactics. but then the opponent blundered a bit, started killing pixies, leaving the centaur — the turn passed to me and the scout hero managed to escape, delivering the cloak to Gurni (which turned out to be very helpful in the end, because he only had 1 knowledge) the opponent brings growth, killing almost all my scout heroes, captures the Rampart. I run at him but am a few move points short (forgot to haste Gurni) the opponent sits in the Rampart, building a Citadel. I attack with Gurni lvl 10 (15,5,5 60 mana) 5 bears, 14 Wyverns, 11 birds, and meat. Miner lvl 12 (9,10,3 60 mana) 1 angel, 6 manticores, 26 Evil Eyes, 14 greater medusae, 79 Troglodytes. we had a long shootout with bows and shooters, the meat advantage ultimately decided it. The opponent had too few Troglodytes, didn't understand why he rushed at me.
Thanks for the game!

Yes, that's how it was. There was absolutely no money. No crypts, no Dwarf Cottages, nothing. I pushed forward — I don't like prolonged games (especially in the evenings). I blundered with the scout hero. Yes — I rushed. I also goofed a couple more times, and well, I didn't expect that many ducks. The result is a deservedly thrown match.
Thanks.

We are waiting for another result of the match AlexAG - 7z

The deadline for the next round 1/8 is March 11, 2012
I hope you will manage within a week!!!! Please note that there is a holiday ahead, contact your opponent immediately and schedule a game date, do not delay until the last day!
Good luck;)

phew, finally managed to see it through :)
4.03.2012 AlexAG (blue, Stronghold, Tyraxor, Kyrre) def 7z (red, Rampart, Mephala, Adelaide) Jebus Cross 137
First we restarted all my restarts and two of the opponent's restarts... The opponent immediately warned that he was on vacation, so there might be minor internet glitches and turn times would be short, meaning we'd have to play in 3-4 sessions...
We started playing, played for almost a week, and when we loaded the opponent's save the next day - it turned out the connection was interrupted BEFORE the turn was passed from me to him, and my Day 6 moves were not saved, although the opponent had played through the entire Day 7... We loaded his autosave of Day 6, I re-took my turn, but the opponent couldn't replicate his Day 7 move after three attempts (he kept losing an extra unit) - so I offered to start the game from the beginning counting as the last restart...
111 - five heroes, an external marketplace under the castle, external dwellings of gopniks and wolves, tons of treasure chests and piles in the vicinity, a Dragon Utopia and a conservatory are revealed. Kyrre was caught by the tail in the tavern, who was immediately and ceremoniously promoted to papa... Additionally, Mullich was spotted in the tavern and was hired on 112, although he ended up fighting only one battle on a behemoth for a mine...
Wolves in the castle, as usual, none...
112 - a second conservatory and a second Dragon Utopia next to it are revealed, the first one was checked (2-4 without an upgraded stack, turned out to be the max version), also near the first conservatory - a beehive, near the mages; near the second - a free prison behind devils
113 - Eine is freed from prison at level 5 (expert scholar and bookworm - an ideal spell transport), bears are built in the town
114 - a third conservatory is found, which, like the just-checked second one, is identical to the first - 100+ griffins without an upgrade... As it turned out, the first two were max, the third was the double version. Along the way, two more beehives are discovered...
116 - Kyrre takes a swamp village, gets a spell book there, rushes back because an previously unnoticed external dwelling of bears was found right under the first beehive
117 - Kyrre never made it to the external dwelling, in the main everything as usual - 1-57 in the castle
121-123 - Kyrre makes a raid on mage towers, thankfully finances allow it, and heads to the external dwelling, plans - right after the external dwelling to take the beehive and conservatory
124 - the external dwelling and the maximum beehive are taken - a small loss of cannon fodder, but +12 ducks and initial earth magic
125 - the maximum conservatory is taken, almost all the cannon fodder is lost, the valuable units left are 7 ducks and 8 ogres (well, except the angels and bears, of course - 4 of each remained, as before)
126 - another maximum Dragon Fly Hive and one minimum one are taken... result - 22 ducks in total
127 - the second maximum conservatory falls, one bear and one duck are lost... three bears are sent for an upgrade, Kyrre clears the Dragon Utopia guard and goes to the last conservatory
131 - the Dragon Utopia turned out to be the max version, going in with stats 8-6-10-3, having 10 angels, 21 ducks and 6 bears as the main attacking stacks was a bit daunting... Meanwhile, a scout hero of the opponent was spotted in the center, so I decided to skip the Dragon Utopia and move to the center, luckily a Sword of +5 to All Stats and two Dragon Utopias were lying near the passage... and by this time I already had oil
132 - Kyrre takes the sword, searches the Dragon Utopia, gets a Book of Fire, Boots of Levitation and a Sphere of Air (don't remember what the fourth was, I think a cap +4)... 9 ducks, one bear and almost all the cannon fodder remain in the Dragon Utopia
133 - next to the Dragon Utopia, a Pandora's Box with 5 green dragons is picked up, a second Dragon Utopia is searched - max version... 1 green dragon stays as guard (morale of the minotaur), two more - in the Dragon Utopia... one angel and the rest of the cannon fodder remain there as well... True, another bear arrives from the external dwelling through the castle
134 - an almost empty secondary town of the opponent is discovered, Kyrre is placed there to restore mana... near the castle - a Pandora's Box and a Ring of the Wayfarer, a bit lower - an unopened Dragon Utopia
135 - the Dragon Utopia is taken, Kyrre runs forward, stopping in front of the liches guarding the Cartographer and Boots of Speed - the passage is blocked, meaning probably no one went there...
136 - Adelaide rushes past, destroys a scout hero and disappears... the army is tiny, so I didn't take her seriously... some scout hero attacks Kyrre and gifts a Shield +6 (didn't have any shield at all before). Kyrre takes the boots (forgot to equip them - so he remained with Levitation), jumps into the secondary town and prepares to run off-road for the Cap +6 and extra ducks
137 - Adelaide takes the castle from Snow White and the 7 8 dwarves, her army consists of two unicorns freshly captured from an external dwelling and single centaurs. On my turn, I retake the castle, get a whole bunch of great artifacts and am surprised to learn that this was the main hero - surrender follows...

Thanks for the game, good luck in the lower bracket...

P.S. It would be interesting to read the opponent's report to find out - where did all the army go?

I strongly disagree with this. The decision should be made by the judge (or judges) who is officially selected for the tournament. Some "authorities" should not interfere in someone else's business. If they can't agree, they should postpone it.

Well, if these are truly recognized authorities, for example, from the Tournament Committee, and the judges of the tournament don't object, then why not?
The final decision should, of course, be made by the tournament judge, but why can't his decision be based on the conclusions of the person or people he trusts? A list of whom can also be agreed upon before the start of the tournament; in my opinion, this will make life easier for both the judges and the players.

04.03.2012 iSeeDeadPpl (Blue, Rampart, Kyrre, Kyrre) def Necrotal (Red, Stronghold, Crag Hack, Crag Hack) Jebus Cross 113

My opponent took 111 three times. I used one restart. The middle roads spawned, an external dwelling of horns behind a pack of pits near the Castle (they also covered the +2/+2 cloak), Nagash dwelling, Dwarf Cottage, unguarded Griffin Conservatory, Dragon Fly Hive, lots of crypts and mills, Kyrre with 5 Elves. The guards were weak walkers or nonexistent. I immediately took two crypts — medium ones; bought 7 heroes, spread out.

On the second day I upgraded the Elves to beat the pits — there turned out to be 18 of them. I carefully cleared them, losing chaff in the form of 20 Goblins and a few Centaurs. I took the external dwelling of horns. I lit a Pandora's Box behind a pack of Trolls — obviously troops — and planned to take it on the third day. I passed the turn and received "gg" and a surrender message from my opponent. He expected I might use a restart.

Thanks for the game.