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It would be more appropriate to have liches as future vampires. And why shouldn't they retain their minds? They are alive (judging by Heroes 6). The only difference between vampires and humans is that they are already dead, and also, to sustain their lives, they need blood, apparently any kind:D
No, liches still can't be living mages. It's illogical (:rolleyes:) that mages would become vampires after death :eek:! So, liches should be separate, and vampires should be separate. Although, again, who knows, who knows. And vampires don't need blood to sustain their lives, but food. In general, the undead can do without it (as mentioned earlier, food will fall out between the bones of a bone dragon :D), but in general, they have such a function. Ghouls can eat the meat of killed enemies, and vampires can drink blood. The trick in the game is that thanks to this, vampires restore health! Oh yes, liches should also be dead, since Necropolis is a race of undead!!!

By the way, about vampires. It would be interesting to see that in "Heroes," like in "King's Bounty," they could transform into bats :).

Aziral, the explanation for why the shadow was removed doesn't work, and I'm too lazy to move it myself :(. Could you discuss the undead with us, inserting a link or the information about liches :)?
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Vampires and liches are different concepts, although I don't see a clear parallel myself. Liches are mages who don't care about their appearance, i.e., souls bound to decaying bodies (while somehow retaining their minds). Vampires, on the other hand, are humanoid creatures without strong magical abilities (although Nicholas is an exception).
Firstly, everything is different in Ashan.
Secondly, if we're talking about the classics, the souls of liches are never bound to the body; they are stored in a phylactery, which ensures the lich's immortality (and the ability to restore its body if it is destroyed).

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Necropolis is a race of undead.
Undead is not a race, but a state.
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Firstly, everything is different in Ashan.
Secondly, if we're talking about the classics, the souls of liches are never bound to their bodies; they are stored in a phylactery, which ensures the lich's immortality (and the ability to restore its body if it is destroyed).

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Undead is not a race, but a state.
Let's talk about Ashan liches. Based on my impressions from "Heroes 5," a lich is a dead mage who "hates all living things," seeking to harm the living and bring about death. Undead are non-living beings, so the race of undead is the race of the dead. Necropolis is such a race, which is quite understandable and requires no proof. For these reasons, liches must be dead!!
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Based on my experience with "Heroes 5," I would say that a lich is a dead mage who "hates all living things," striving to harm the living and bring about death.
What do your impressions have to do with it? I explained to the person that their description doesn't fit either the Ashan or the canonical liches, for quite obvious reasons.
Undead are non-living beings, therefore the undead race is a race of the dead. Necropolis is such a race, which is clear and requires no proof.
Look up the definition of the word "race."
For these reasons, liches must be dead!
Liches must die?
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Let's talk about the Ashan liches. Based on my impressions from "Heroes 5," I'd say that a lich is a dead mage who "hates all living things," striving to harm the living and bring about death. Undead are non-living beings, so the undead race is a race of the dead. Necropolis is such a race, which is quite understandable and requires no proof. For these reasons, liches should be dead!!
I, however, base my impressions on the art and information from Heroes 6, and in the information, and even the game producer confirmed that the liches in Heroes 6 are ALIVE. But I don't deny that normal liches should be dead.
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
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Stone is an inanimate entity, therefore the race of stones is a race of the undead. Necropolis is one such race, which is quite understandable and requires no proof. For these reasons, gravel should be dead!
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I base my impressions on the art and information about Heroes 6, and the information, as well as the game producer, confirms that the liches in Heroes 6 are ALIVE. But I'm not denying that normal liches should be dead.
Let's see :smile09:. But are the developers really getting everything upside down again? Liches should really be dead warriors of Necropolis! Living liches are just nonsense :confused:. Gravel is not dead, but an inanimate "entity." A dead man is a dead creature (mostly a human) that was alive! Gravel was never alive. Liches are mages of Necropolis, that is, undead. To become such, they really must die :D! And what do you not like about my use of the word "race"? You'll say that Necropolis is not a race in the game "Heroes 6" (of course, not only here).
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And are zombies a sentient entity? What difference does it make who they were before? The steak on your plate was an animal; is it a race? Or at least a living being? No. The undead are simply a mechanism.
You could also say that Necropolis is not a race in the game "Heroes 6" (of course, not only here).
Of course, it isn't. It is a castle/side/faction/army.
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A zombie is an undead creature. It was once a living, animate being. Therefore, it fits the definition of undead. The meat on a plate was also once alive, so it's the meat of a dead creature, a corpse. But that doesn't make it any less appetizing :). By the way, it's precisely because of compassion for animals and the understanding that it's dead flesh that vegetarians don't eat meat ;).

Necropolis is not a castle. There is a Necropolis castle ;). I agree that the concept of a "Necropolis race" is not entirely appropriate, but it implies a "race of undead," i.e., a "race of the dead." Does that make sense? And the dead are no worse than demons, humans, or elves :).
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Excuse me, are you experiencing schizophasia? What do appetite, veganism, and sentience have to do with anything? What are you even talking about? And who are you talking to? Clearly not us. Which question are you answering? And in the second paragraph, you are absolutely wrong in all your statements.
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Sorry, are you experiencing schizophasia? What do appetite, veganism, and being alive have to do with anything? What are you even talking about? And who are you talking to? Clearly not us. Which question are you answering?

And in the second paragraph, you are absolutely wrong in all your statements.
Did you mean to say schizophrenia? It's also embarrassing not to know what "vegetarianism" is.

I said about the "appetizing" part just for the sake of argument. The point is that a zombie fits the definition of "undead" because it was a living being, while gravel was not. I thought it was obvious. Consider it as foolishness for foolishness:
gravel must be dead!!
Just because I don't provide quotes doesn't mean I'm talking to myself ;).

And what exactly am I so wrong about? There is a Necropolis Castle, a Necropolis army, but not the other way around. Then it sounds just as silly as "Necropolis race." Of your options, only "faction" fits. But why, if everyone is used to calling all factions in the game "races"? Why nitpick words? Let's just end the argument, because this is:

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Did you mean schizophrenia? It's also shameful not to know what "vegetarianism" is.
Are you replacing Azrael with Captain Scooby-Doo? I meant what I said. Broaden your horizons.
The point is that a zombie fits the definition of "undead" because it was once a living being, while gravel was not.
It doesn't matter who zombies and gravel were, it matters who they are now. You wouldn't call a fur coat or a wooden item undead.
A zombie is just as much an automaton, a mechanism, as a golem or a doorknob.
And what exactly am I so wrong about? There's a Necropolis castle, a Necropolis army, but not the other way around. Then it sounds just as silly as "Necropolis race." Of your options, only "side" works. But why, if everyone is used to calling all sides in the game "races"? Why nitpick words?
There's a Necropolis army, there's a Necropolis castle. The City of the Dead is Necropolis, call it whatever you want. Necropolis is not a territorial or ethnic union, not a country or a state, just as the Academy is not a state or a country or any other ethnic and territorial union. The Academy is a city, and all of them together form the "Silver Cities." Necropolis is a city, and all of them together form Erathia, or some undefined "forces of necromancers," or whatever they form, I don't remember anymore. Do you get it? That's the first thing.
Secondly, look up the definition of the word "race" in the dictionary, and don't be an idiot.
Therefore, the best word for this case is faction. Saying "UNDEAD RACE" is the same as calling the red ones from Heaven a race.

Lovers of RACES,

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Not at all. All of these posts are relevant to the topic.
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A zombie is an undead creature. It was a living, animate being. Therefore, it fits the definition of undead. The meat on the plate was also alive, so it's the meat of a dead person, a corpse. But that doesn't make it any less appetizing :).
Well, a zombie doesn't always imply a dead person; a zombie is a person who has lost control of their mind and obeys someone else's orders. And undead doesn't necessarily mean dead; for example, you absolutely know that the word "undead" in Ukrainian means a runny nose. And you're exaggerating about the meat; the meat wasn't alive. The owner of that meat was alive.
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;)
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Well, "zombie" doesn't always imply a dead person; a zombie is a person who has lost control of their mind and obeys someone else's orders. And "undead" doesn't necessarily mean dead; for example, you definitely know that the word "undead" in Ukrainian means a runny nose. And you're exaggerating about the meat; the meat wasn't alive. The owner of this meat was alive.
And yet, in Russian, "undead" means "non-living entity";). Necropolis is... well, okay, faction of the undead :). Therefore, I believe that all units (but not heroes) should be living dead. The fact that the developers made liches alive completely changes the perception of the faction. Will this unit not have the "undead" ability??? And you are right about the meat :).

Morning, I didn't say the word "race". What does
Fans of RACES:
And also: let's say that the word "schizophrenia" exists. But in my post, I was talking about "vegetarianism". What does "veganism" have to do with it?
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That's why I think that all units (but not heroes) should be undead.
A vampire, a ghost, a Nazgûl, a Lich from Heroes 5 – these are not "undead" at all.
And also: let's say that the word "schizophasia" exists. But in my post, I was talking about "vegetarianism." What does "veganism" have to do with it?
Another example of what we were talking about in private messages. In general:
Broaden your horizons.
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