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Eh.... :( You won't believe it – but the most interesting period was 2006 to mid-2007!!!:rolleyes: Everything was just beginning – but it was incredibly exciting!!! There were such wonderful people here! So many projects, plans...

This is a very common opinion, I often hear it in one form or another. So it's worth clarifying the situation.

There is a time in life called childhood. When everything is new, beautiful, and rosy. When people love, make friends, fantasize, etc. But there is one problem – in a state of childhood, it is difficult to accomplish anything serious. Precisely because of this perception of reality.

Therefore, over time, adolescence arrives – when muscles have grown, the brain has filled with some knowledge, certain inclinations and talents have emerged, and the worldview has become more closely aligned with reality.

And ambitions naturally arise – the desire to prove oneself, to demonstrate something. Fantasies turn into goals and plans, strengths become tools for their realization, and weaknesses provide feedback.

This process inevitably leads to a choice – either we continue to remain in carefree childhood, content with a low social status, or we enter the struggle for a higher status. And struggle is always a difficult matter, accompanied by mistakes, hardships, and strain on both mind and body.

About 2-3 years ago, HeroesWorld was a blissful sandbox that many miss. But back then, it didn't have any particular ambitions. Simply because there were no opportunities to realize those ambitions. People just sat around and enjoyed life.

But at a certain point, the cards fell into place – ferment began among the minds on "Bay" and "Portal", and various comrades, hardened in battles both heroic and forum-based, emerged. And since "Bay" and "Portal" were something of antipodes at the time, not very friendly toward each other's messengers, HeroesWorld became that neutral territory where all this seething energy poured out.

From there, the process developed naturally – attendance grew significantly, as did the average level of play, the caliber of tournaments, and the authority of the organizers. This is indirectly evidenced by the scale of the flame wars – it almost infallibly points to the location of the metropolis. If there are no flame wars, it means you're on the sidelines of the historical process.

Accordingly, ambitious projects began to emerge – first various inter-portal events, then the CIS Championship, the World Championship, etc. Only, all these projects require people, and not blissful elves, but hardened conquistadors. They are needed for everything – for organization, for PR, for participation, and for support. Otherwise, the endeavor will simply die at one stage or another.

And such people, for the most part, have difficult personalities, simply due to the nature of their activity – if you constantly have to fight, to wrest tournament points and reputation from others, then a corresponding character is formed: a tendency toward conflict, sharpness in words and actions, the ability to hit below the belt, the ability to take a hit, the ability to work for a long time in an unfriendly environment, and to stay alert.

This is clearly noticeable, for example, in the CIS Championship – both among the organizers and the participants, it's almost exclusively bounty hunters; all the blissful elves have been swept away by the wave one way or another. And this happens in almost every serious project – such is the law of life.

Therefore, the sighs about the bright past are somewhat hypocritical for many – on one hand, they want everyone to be friends and not offend each other, but on the other hand, they want HeroesWorld to be the heroic center of the Russian internet, implementing some big projects. No, son, that's a fantasy...

But seriously, I'm just finding this very amusing. I haven't laughed this much in a long time, watching people get stuck in a muddy puddle but still trying to convince everyone that they're still clean and innocent. The more they struggle, the more awkward it looks. :)

I see that you're desperately trying to make people believe in your fantasies about how the АК (presumably an abbreviation for a group or committee) got stuck in a "muddy puddle."

Each of us has our own opinion on a particular issue, and I hope I don't need to prove that to you.

The members of the АК made the decision they made, believing it to be the right one.

If you think the АК was wrong, then go ahead and vote for the АК composition you would like to see.

If you think the Arbitration Committee made a mistake, then take action – vote for the Arbitration Committee members you would like to see.

I have already voted for the complete abolishment of the Arbitration Committee ;) Although before this decision, I was a supporter of the Arbitration Committee and believed in its necessity and usefulness :) I understand that my one vote doesn't mean anything, but maybe it will at least make you think about the future, and perhaps allow a rebellious thought into your minds – what if it turns out that you are wrong somewhere, in something? ;)

If HoMM = Kolyma, then a reprimand = a slap on the wrist for negligence, disqualification from the tournament = dismissal from the position.

Based on the fact that your criteria for punishment differ from the AK's criteria by 1 point in favor of leniency, you are making assumptions that the AK is wrong and has made a mistake? :)
Then nothing is surprising: I see in your fantasies that traffic police don't fine negligent drivers, and officials can negligently perform their duties without fear of losing their jobs, and for fraud, they should announce a small "atta-boy" instead of a 5-year prison sentence. Beautiful! Just an ideal world! Keep it up! :)

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Well done, that's exactly how it is :D. But who made that mess? ;)

You yourself wrote on a neighboring forum that you would have done the same. Are you now blaming me for it?

And if we're being serious, I'm just really amused, I haven't laughed this much in a long time, watching people get into a muddy puddle, but trying to prove to everyone that they are still clean and innocent, and the more they struggle, the more awkward it looks :)

But you and people like you are the ones adding to this muddy puddle. And then you find it funny and amusing? Interesting approach, and most importantly, consistent.

By the way, Neo, Piterius, did you discuss this topic in Dnipro?

Do you want to know? Is there a new opportunity to stir things up? If you're so interested, I'll answer. Someone mentioned this topic when we were all getting to our overnight stay late on Friday night, but there was no discussion, everyone just smirked to themselves, exchanged a couple of phrases, and that was it. Everyone was thinking about the tournament, not this nonsense.

He himself wrote on a neighboring forum that he would have done the same. Are you blaming me for that now?

Sorry, I probably didn't express myself clearly. I don't consider recording a microgame as a group, but rather the consideration and decision of the Arbitration Committee.

That's how you and people like you add to this mud puddle. And then you find it funny and amusing? Interesting approach, and most importantly, consistent.

How much more can be added? ;)

Do you want to know? Is there a new lead to discuss? If you're so interested, I'll answer. Someone mentioned this topic when we were all getting to our overnight stay late on Friday night, but there was no discussion, just a few smiles and a couple of phrases, and that was it. Everyone was thinking about the tournament, not this nonsense.

You won't believe it! I'm just curious :) I know that in real life, people communicate more normally with each other, so I became interested. And there are plenty of leads even without this ;) I still skip 90%, only answering the most interesting ones :)

The members of the Administrative Council made the decision they made, believing it to be the right one.

If you believe that the Administrative Council was wrong, then take action – vote for the Administrative Council composition that you would like to see.

Do you have any thoughts of your own?

Throughout all these discussions, I only see a closed loop from you: "We, the Administrative Council, made a decision => The community supported our Administrative Council => If you don't like something, vote against us in the Administrative Council elections => We, the Administrative Council, made a decision => and so on."

It reminds me of a boxer cornered, in a passively defensive position. Do you think this is appropriate behavior for an organization that represents the interests of the community? And what will you do if, at some point, you are not supported? Will you quietly step down? With this approach, wouldn't it be better to hurry up?

Do you have any thoughts of your own?

Throughout all these discussions, I see only a closed loop in your arguments: "We, the AK, made a decision => The community supported our AK => If you don't like something, vote against us, the AK, in the elections => We, the AK, made a decision => and so on."

It reminds me of a boxer cornered, in a passive-defensive position. Do you think this is appropriate behavior for an organization representing the interests of the community? And what will you do if, at some point, you are not supported? Will you quietly step down? With this approach, wouldn't it be better to hurry up?

Yura, there's no need to add your own interpretation to my words. I always express my own opinion, and if I see pressure being put on the AK as a whole, then I defend the AK as a whole, because the AK is an elected body of the game, not my whim.

I don't see the point in replying to posts because they are mostly irrelevant. I would discuss this with Vic in person and explain my point of view and why I voted the way I did.

If anyone supports keeping two people in this thread, I hope everyone understands who I'm talking about (Vic + Ketch), and they will convince themselves if examples don't matter to them.

I don't see the point in replying to posts because they are mostly pointless. I would discuss this with Vic in person and explain my point of view and why I voted the way I did.

Come to Kyiv, we'll discuss it :).

I can already foresee another round of... hmm... negotiations there. Fortunately, there won't be any moderation, and we can say everything we think without all this pseudo-political correctness.

For several days now I've been starting to write a post and then deleting it, because in this argument any sensible thought will simply drown, and I have no desire to argue or write spineless posts. Still, I've decided to go ahead.

I think everyone already understands that: 1) the AC will be chosen; 2) the AC will not change its decision regarding Alex. So all your arguments are already pointless, and I suggest we stop them as unnecessary. There's no point in continuing to prove something to each other by coming up with new colorful examples: those who wanted to understand got it the first time. It would be better to spend your energy on selecting the optimal roster.

My IMHO in brief, simply because I haven't written here yet.
1. I am categorically against the AC interfering in my tournaments or influencing my decisions in any way. But situations may arise where their help is needed.
First, I mostly work with newcomers, and not all of them are reasonable. I can handle it and deliver my impartial judging decision, but. We have a democratic resource here... An offended (as it seems to them) newcomer might get the bright idea to appeal this somewhere on the forum. Support from the public who don't understand the situation, followed by me foaming at the mouth trying to justify myself... :) Why would I need all that if there's a special body to which I can hand over all the materials in such a situation and save my nerves?
2. Let's say I even catch a cheater red-handed (or it just seems that way to me). To prove it, I would still need to post the materials somewhere, ask for opinions from knowledgeable people, conduct some polls... Why? If there is, again, a group of, I emphasize, more competent individuals who take on the courage and responsibility in such matters.
So I see no point in getting rid of the AC.
I don't know how to chew it up any more, I have nothing to add.

Now about the composition:
1. Let me remind everyone that we didn't just choose the AC, and besides, the AC is not a governing body on HeroesWorld. Our governing body is the Organizing Committee (OC). In theory, I should be answerable to the OC as the tournament organizer. The OC bears enormous responsibility for the content of the tournament grid and for the state of HeroesWorld as a whole. Why aren't we discussing its composition, and why are Pit and Pasha still not on it? In my IMHO, they are the very people on HeroesWorld who should be there, and not be distracted by digging through saves and aseka logs!

2. I seriously suggest that Vic and Ketch consider the possibility of their participation in the AC. I personally would be all for it. For Vic, I'd even be for it with both feet: he has already so thoroughly dissected and analyzed so many saves and generations that I have no doubt about his competence. And I don't care about his bias towards the resource or the game version; what matters more is his ability to analyze and convey his thoughts. I think I will find like-minded people.

PS And finally.
It's very easy to say that the cops are assholes and the judge is three-two-one.
It's harder to put yourself in their shoes and do the right thing

2. I seriously suggest that Vic and Ketch consider the possibility of participating in the AC.

Good one :) I'm referring to Ketch. I don't think I meet any of the stated requirements for an AC member :)
But I would support Vic's candidacy, if HeroesWorld really can't do without an AC. Moreover, I believe the optimal AC composition would be: the AC consists of one person, and that person is Vic.

Yeah, Iron Felix...

It would be better to spend their energy on finding the optimal team composition.

Yeah. Let's assume they decided to keep AK and need to figure out how to move forward.

Recent events have shown that AK lacks a so-called spokesperson – someone who can address the public, clearly articulate AK's point of view, defend against constructive and unconstructive criticism, and engage in discussions in a tense environment, walking the line.

Without such people, the "we made a decision, what else is there to discuss?" approach leads to aggression from those who disagree with the decision.

Therefore, finding this spokesperson should be the primary concern. Unfortunately, there are very few such people, and almost all of them sided with Alex, not AK.

Perhaps it's worth analyzing the "negotiations" again and looking for candidates there. Although this will be difficult. The most suitable candidates are Catch and Neo, but they are unlikely to join AK. Maybe invite Peterius – of all the accusers, his position and posts seemed to me the most worthy of respect, both in terms of arguments and tone; I didn't feel the desire or reason to attack him, which is surprising considering our past relationship – we've had disagreements in the past.

I agree about Peterius. We didn't communicate much, but enough to form an opinion. He's absolutely positive and reasonable, a great "spokesperson" :) I'm not very familiar with Neo; we met once and exchanged a few words, so I can't say anything, I'll refrain from commenting.