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Posts from Dialogues with ModeratorsAuto-translated
Even though I'm just a regular player, I want to say a few words.
I've been on the portal for a short time, but I've already encountered a situation three times where, during a tournament (2 official and 1 unofficial), the judge-tournament organizer is absent for a week or more.
He doesn't have an official assistant. There's nothing about this in the first post.
There's no one to add new participants to the table, monitor violations in the tournament thread...
Maybe we should come up with a new position - a backup moderator.
And when, for a valid reason (life happens, and all sorts of unexpected problems can arise), the tournament organizer needs to be temporarily absent, let an officially appointed backup moderator with official powers take his place for that period!
It is quite possible (even certain) that all this is at the discretion of the Creator.
Maybe we should create a new position – a backup moderator.
I think that's a bad idea – would the moderator have to review threads for all parts of the tournaments? Of course, respect to that person, but it's easier to find an assistant who, in your absence, can write an encouraging message like, "You've been accepted – as soon as the organizer appears, I'll add you to the table" – there's no need to panic; you can write that too. I don't know how it is in the threads about Heroes 4 and 5, but everything is fine in Heroes 3 – there's now a waiting list. And of course, in the online game.
I think it's a bad idea – for a moderator to review topics for all parts of the tournaments? o
I meant that a backup moderator would only work when the tournament organizer is temporarily absent (a week or more), and the organizer officially delegates their responsibilities (for that period of absence) to the backup moderator. This could also be indicated in the first post. And it would be good to always have an OFFICIAL assistant for the tournament organizer!
Added 1 minute ago ewgeniy;194919
that the moderator will review topics for all parts of the tournaments? Respect to that person, of course...
But Shnurov from GLeague, as a moderator, reviews all posts! That's really something to respect.
And Shnurov from GLeague, as a moderator, reviews all the posts! That's really something to respect.
. Of course, he deserves respect, but you forget – there are no topics like "which monster is level 4..." on the League. And in general, I created a topic on the League a month ago, or maybe even longer, asking for help (a technical question about the 4th game), and no one has answered yet:( So, respect is respect, but you can't keep track of everything...
There were issues with the lack of a tournament organizer in versions 1.3 and 5 (at least, that's what I encountered). That's why I'm saying that we need an official assistant, and even better, a moderator who can temporarily replace the tournament organizer.
Added 10 minutes ago Thank you, Evgeny, for your opinion. Maybe someone else from the moderators can say something about this issue. And even better – the Creator, because he has the final say, as the commander-in-chief of the portal.
The issues with the lack of a tournament organizer varied depending on the game – versions 1.3 and 5 (at least, based on my experience). That's why I'm saying we need an official assistant, and even better, a moderator who can temporarily replace the tournament organizer.
As far as I understand, there are several organizers for versions 3 and 5, and each can substitute for the other if needed. For the first game, it's VDV (the demand isn't very high, so there's no need to rush; an official is an official), for the second game, it's qwerty – he manages both, for the third game, I don't remember any instances where there wasn't an organizer – if you're talking about "favorites in battle," he was there, but he wasn't a very good organizer, and I don't remember anything else like that. For the fourth game, it's Lu and Pandora; they sometimes disappear, but I'm sure no one is holding a grudge. In the fifth game, I don't know much, but we have tournament curators, and they should be monitoring this – I monitor HOMM3 Online, and I hope I'm doing a good job. I'm sure we don't need to reinvent the wheel. Those who frequently disappear should use their common sense – there can be two organizers; I've seen this happen many times...
Thank you, Evgeny, for your opinion. Perhaps some other moderators can also provide feedback on this issue. Or even better, the Creator, as he has the final say, like the commander-in-chief of the portal.
It is not necessary to assign a specific moderator for this. Unfortunately, due to a lack of time, I cannot monitor all tournaments. In the future, if the curator (organizer or their deputy) is absent, you can write to me in a private message and provide a link to the tournament topic. I will specifically monitor it.
P.S. Here you can go off-topic, this is the Offtopic section! :\[/QUOTE]
As an off-topic comment, as they like to say here! Well, since this is the Offtopic section, maybe moderators aren't needed? What's the point of that position in this section then? Don't you think? And by the way... I want to remind you that the section is called something slightly different, if you've noticed! And also... just because this is a free section doesn't mean you can say anything that comes to mind. In my opinion, we have enough topics where you can chat about serious things and just for fun. If there is a topic, then the discussion should be within the scope of that topic. Any deviation is already OFF-TOPIC! Is there nowhere else to chat? No ICQ? No chats? At least clan chats... Topics that are relevant? Why turn a topic into a circus? You can't even chat properly...
Let's make this like a chat room... what do you say? We don't have enough of these topics, let's chat in every one...
You should at least show some respect to the author of the topic... By the way, he deserves it! And if we're talking about old-timers, he is one of them! Besides, he is a wonderful person and a good friend. I didn't know Tigra and Magnus, I know him as he is, so I can't compare him to how he was, because I'm not that much of an old-timer. So there's not much to say... But it's just sad to see what this topic has turned into.
Next time, I will record the violations. And a big request to the moderators: monitor the topics and fulfill their duties, since they have already taken on this responsibility!
"Как это странно всегда.. Вроде бы взрослые люди, А в голове ерунда.. Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
Heh... Lu, I basically agree with you, and there was a time when I did the same... BUT the rules state that in this sub-section, you can go off-topic, chat, etc. (it's even written under the section), the forum users know this, and if something is deleted, they start complaining and pointing to this rule))... therefore, there isn't much control in the "everything about everything" section, because it's practically useless (people can create topics on any subject, about anything (usually silly)... by the way, there are already a few)... so now I mainly monitor order in the CLF (Chat, Lounge, and Fun) section... and the fact that everything is allowed, etc., I don't like that either (I think it's clear from the smiley that was at the end of the post you quoted)... and I think that criticism directed at us is not entirely appropriate, because we didn't come up with these stupid rules, which have many loopholes... if they are edited properly, then there will be order...
P.S. and in general, strict rules should be implemented... Let's give the right to close stupid topics and chat threads!!! Hehe.
Excellent! So, here's the deal! Let's learn the rules!
HeroesWorld users should avoid flooding and off-topic posts in their messages in all sections of the HeroesWorld forums, except in sections where it is permitted. If a user's message consists entirely of flooding or off-topic content, it will be deleted or moved by the moderators without notifying the user.
Flooding (from English "flood") is idle chatter, messages in internet forums and chats that take up (in many cases) large amounts of space and do not contain any information or contain very little useful information. Flooding is spread either out of boredom or with the aim of trolling, for example, out of a desire to annoy someone.
Should I provide examples? Or will you find them yourself?
Off-topic (from English "off topic") is any online message that goes beyond the pre-established topic of discussion.
Do you need examples?
The actions of HeroesWorld moderators and coordinators are not subject to discussion, and if a HeroesWorld user disagrees with their legitimacy in accordance with the current HeroesWorld rules and the current moderator rules, they can, within two weeks from the date of what they believe to be an unfair action, send a private message to the HeroesWorld administration with specific complaints about the actions of the moderators or coordinators, providing appropriate evidence of the illegitimacy of their actions in accordance with the existing HeroesWorld rules.
This is actually a good response if someone starts pointing fingers and accusing you of deleting something as a moderator! If a user believes they are right, let them write a complaint about your actions to any of the coordinators or directly to the Creator!
And, of course, the rules are the rules, BUT there should be reasonable limits! You've turned the section into a mess! A dump! You read the topics and are horrified! You just want to create one topic called "Mess" or even better "Nonsense" and dump 70% of the topics there! Have some respect for HeroesWorld! For its users, and for yourselves in the end! Everything has its limits, and you need to write on topic, even if it's in the "Everything About Everything" section. You can't discuss how you were picking your nose in class in a topic about music, just because you don't care about school.
Yes, it says in the section that off-topic and flooding are not prohibited, but this was written earlier, in the hope that users would be reasonable, that if they do flood, they will do it intelligently. Now, it seems, the time has come to make some adjustments. Otherwise, any topic in this section turns into a dump! I'm writing about what I see... And everyone has their own opinion.
The messages in the topic should at least remotely support the topic's title. Then what's the point of creating a new topic? Let's put everything in one and write whatever you want! Why have so many topics when you can discuss everything perfectly in one, since you all speak different languages anyway, so you come, chat, make your point, and leave for another topic.
There is no discussion! There is no conversation! There is just empty chatter, which you can do in a chat or on AIM! And if a moderator can't distinguish chatter from a normal post, that's very unfortunate.
Flooding can be different... And what's happening here is not even flooding - it's nonsense! You can't even flood properly...
And the rules... they will probably have to be adjusted for those who don't understand!
And it's time to clean up the section! Since it doesn't seem to have an owner!
And the owner should remember their responsibilities. Consider this a warning, Arandor!
Starting tomorrow, violations will be issued for empty flooding, and those who stand out will be sent to time out for a few days! So they can straighten out their thoughts and replenish their vocabulary!
Knight, I'm very sorry that your topic has turned into this nightmare. I'll have to fix it...
"Как это странно всегда.. Вроде бы взрослые люди, А в голове ерунда.. Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
What’s all this fuss about? There’s already a topic for completely free communication, or as you say, “nonsense.” And the fact that everyone has started posting both on and off-topic is quite natural for a section where it is clearly stated that “off-topic and flooding are allowed”... However, I agree that stricter rules should be implemented, although this applies less to Flooding. And that’s where it should have started. I’m ready to make relevant suggestions on this matter, but not in this topic. P.S. I’d like to note that the chat hasn’t been working for quite some time, and it’s still unknown when it will be fixed, so repeatedly pointing it out, in my opinion, is not entirely correct, but I’m not the one to judge. P.P.S. Arandor promised that I wouldn’t get a warning for this post, I hope he’s not lying:)
I'm sorry, but is the chat only available on HeroesWorld? Is this an exclusive development? Don't you have a chat on the clan forum? Or do you never visit Hamachi? There's a chat there, just so you know.
No ICQ? Chats? At least clan ones.. Relevant topics?
Did I not write clearly enough here? The topic implies some kind of communication.. I'd like to note that you are still not in the lounge.. And some basic rules and etiquette need to be observed; you're just engaging in idle chatter, sometimes crossing every boundary! As you rightly noted, there are relevant topics. So write all that nonsense there! Thankfully, they haven't been deleted yet. I consider this conversation over. As for tightening the rules.. Well, it seems the time has come to tighten the rules in this section too. And by a whole order of magnitude!
"Как это странно всегда.. Вроде бы взрослые люди, А в голове ерунда.. Мечтаем как дети о чуде.."
No discussion! No conversation! There's just empty chatter that can be done in a chat or in an IM!
I once tried to fight people who were doing this... The result??? I got scolded and was pointed at, called a mean moderator =))Amaranth
PS: I'll note that the chat hasn't been working for quite a while now, and it's unknown when it will start working again, so shoving people's noses into it several times IMHO isn't quite right
As Lu41k already said, there are plenty of other systems and means of communication!Arandor
PS: and in general, we need to make strict rules... Give us the right to close stupid topics and spam threads!!! x))
Lu41k
Well, it seems the time has come to tighten the rules in this section too. And significantly at that!
It's a pity you only understood this now... I'm a moderator on HeroesWorld - like in that diaper commercial - from the first days and for life....
But all my attempts to keep that reserve of spam within a person ended in complete failure... honestly, that's why I gave up and now moderate half-heartedly... Which, to be honest, I don't like at all myself...
If you decide to take on the users... I'm with you =) Almost the oldest moderator on HeroesWorld =)))
They were ganging up on me and pointing fingers, saying I was a mean moderator =))
Your avatar, Hack, is too aggressive :) especially considering that it says coordinator underneath it:D
Just a little off-topic, as they like to say here!
I... well... I didn't want to spoil anyone's mood, especially yours, Lu... I was amused that these two super moderators can find something to argue about in any topic - and I couldn't resist - I went off-topic.:o
I wonder, what will it all come down to? Will they really close the chatroom?:) Personally, I think that if the rules are tightened, then the section can be safely closed; why do we need two identical sections? It will be very similar to the CFL...ewgeniy
these two super moderators will find something to argue about in any topic
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Arandor
