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"Final Battle - 14"

I. General Questions.
1. Only players who have passed the selection process are allowed to participate in the Tournament, namely:
01. Redwhait (FB-13)
02. =Lizard= (FB-13)
03. Szopa666 (Mirror Jebus II)
04. Gorbunak (Новичок - 2020. Winter)
05. Gomunguls (SM Masters)
06. Dawidu91 (Hard Choice-2) 
07. LuckyF (SNG Online)
08. =Stinger= (De_Luxe Memorial)
09. BISHOP (OFB)
10. twaryna (OFB)
11. cruzeN (OFB)
12. Artymetyczny (OFB)
13. Xocenk (OFB)
14. Team0n (OFB)
15. Bayazet (OFB)
16. Mont (OFB)

2. Game Version HotA

3. There is a bidding war for the right to choose the Town and Color (unless the template specifies otherwise). Bidding on mirror templates follows the rules. The right to speak first in the auction is determined by a coin toss.

4. Templates will be similar to those in the OFB tournament (partially). Standard pattern selection from the list. The right to strike out a template first is determined by a coin toss. The player "winning the coin toss" chooses who will strike out first.

h3dm1, Jebus Cross, MT_Andromeda, Anarchy, Apocalypse, MT_Jebus, 6lm10a

5. Rules are standard. If changes are made to the rules during the tournament, they will apply to this tournament.
Restart values are 112 on all templates, 111 on mirror templates.

II. Organizational Questions.

1. The Tournament is held according to the Rules for organizing, conducting and participating in tournaments.
2. Players listed in the Blacklist and Penalty Bench are not allowed to participate in the tournament.
3. Tournament hosts and judges: Dirty_Player (Discord profile),
If it is impossible to resolve a controversial issue independently, the judges will seek help from the AK.
The organizers have the right to make any changes to the regulations and rules during the tournament if necessary.
4. For each played match, participants must submit a report and confirmation in this thread, created automatically.
Saves of all matches must be saved until the end of the tournament and submitted upon first request by the tournament organizer or any member of the AK.
5. Information on the progress of the tournament is updated as needed and is located at the beginning of this topic.
6. All games of the tournament count towards the seasonal rating. The list of reports for the tournament is also located at the beginning of this topic.
7. Players who take 1st-3rd place will receive the right to participate in FB-15.
The winner of the tournament will receive the traditional medal under their avatar.



III. Deadlines.
All participants in the tournament must strictly adhere to the announced deadlines:
1. Immediately after the start of the next stage or round, contact your opponents for preliminary arrangements regarding the games. To agree means to reach an agreement after negotiations and discussion. An offer without a response will not be considered an agreement.
2. Participants must inform the tournament organizers about temporary problems (with internet access, travel plans, personal issues).
3. The preferred time for tournament games is daytime (12-24 Moscow time) on weekends and evening (19-24 Moscow time) on weekdays. If a participant cannot play at this time, the organizer will interpret the lack of game results as being in favor of his opponent.

Registration (confirmation of participation) - until January 20, 2021.
Draw - January 21, 2021.

IV. Regulations.

The tournament is held in 2 stages.
1) Group stage: 4 groups of 4 people using a mini-double system (2 wins to advance). 2 people advance from each group.
2) Playoffs. Olympic system, 8 people, BO3. + match for 3rd place.
3) In the final match, players are required to stream (or provide a broadcast via TV/Skype/etc) for commentary.

V. Winners of past tournaments:
Final Battle - 13: Redwhait
Final Battle - 12: Antiplayer
Final Battle - 11: LuckyF
Final Battle - 10: Gomunguls
Final Battle - 9: Maretti
Final Battle - 8: Maretti
Final Battle - 7: Gomunguls
Final Battle - 6: Gomunguls
Final Battle - 5: Satir
Final Battle - 4: Medium_HP
Final Battle - 3: numOne
Final Battle - 2: Pit for LM
Final Battle: Wlk777
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So, the draw is ready. GSL format. Deadline for the first round is until 04.02.21
In the first round, #1 plays vs #2 and #3 vs #4
P.S.: Group B is absolutely fire!!! Well, whose fault is it that the reigning FB champion and Siberian champion ended up in pot 4

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I'm in shock, Kostya. Since when does the reigning champion go into the 4th pot, and more importantly, since when does HeroesWorld use the lobby rating from HotA instead of the local rating?
I protest the draw. I think AK has been sitting idly for too long — it's time they discussed something too :)
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since when does the reigning champion go into the 4th pot
Ever since he forgot how to play and tanked his rating :D
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and moreover, since when does HeroesWorld use not the local rating, but the HotA lobby rating.
Ever since the HeroesWorld rating became irrelevant. There are new players who play strongly, but have no HeroesWorld rating. This will greatly affect the draw.
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I can't believe you, Kostya,
Don't tell anyone, but I'm rooting for you :D
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Ever since the Hv rating lost its relevance. There are new players who play well, but they don't have an Hv rating. This will greatly affect the draw.
You should have at least mentioned such drastic changes in the rules in the first post. So that everyone is aware. And I don't agree that the Hv rating has lost its relevance; why all these registrations for the tournament, reports, etc., then?
The forum is a forum, and it's slowly dying, but thanks to your actions, it will die even faster, which is not nice; at least out of respect for it and the amount of time we've spent here...

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You should have at least mentioned these radical changes to the rules in the first post, so everyone would be aware. And I don't agree that the Hv rating has lost its relevance; why all these registrations for the tournament, reports, etc., then?
A forum is a forum, and it's slowly dying, but thanks to your actions, it will die even faster. That's not nice; at least show some respect for it and for all the time we've spent here...

If you had been following Hv and tournaments judged by Dirty, you would have noticed that this year, a more up-to-date lobby rating is taken into account when seeding. (Miror Jebus, OFB, CIS in St. Petersburg)
You can also look at yourself. Your last rated game on Hv was the final of last year's FB. (You're not the only one among the participants in the current FB. It's just a telling fact.)

Yes, our group is significantly better than some others in terms of the Hv rating (all four of us are in the top 10), but what can you do? If you want to be a champion, you have to be able to beat everyone.
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If you had been following HeroesWorld and the tournaments judged by Dirty in general, you would have noticed that this year a more current lobby rating is used for seeding. (Miror Jebus, OFB, CIS in St. Petersburg)
You can also look at yourself. Your last rated game on HeroesWorld was the final of last year's FB. (You are not the only one among the participants of the current FB. It's just a telling fact.)
CIS was organized by MSStudio and has little to do with HeroesWorld. In OFB, again, there is no clause or even a word about the principle by which the draw was conducted, hence all the confusion. Write out the regulations clearly, and I wouldn't have a problem, but as it is, I get the feeling that since the forum and all that isn't needed by anyone, this last-ditch tournament here is just for me, apparently...
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Reddi, man, why are you being such a buzzkill? It was never written anywhere that seeding should be based on rating (?) and specifically the HeroesWorld one (?). I always thought the organizer has the right to decide how to conduct the draw themselves. Honestly, I don't see any problem with it. For the CIS or ChS, no one writes about how the draw is conducted either. It's always decided on the spot every time. So what now, should we just not go to LANs?

The lobby rating is indeed more relevant and indicative right now. Very few games have been played on HeroesWorld over the past year. New players are coming in who have a lobby rating of 600-800 pts, but have 0 on HeroesWorld. So, should I put them in the 4th seed then? Do you think that's fair? You'd better be grateful for such an interesting group. Enot, for example, was happy and said there would be more interesting games.
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New players come in who have a rating of 600-800 pts in the lobby, but on HeroesWorld it's 0. Well, should I put them in the 4th bucket now?
I understand, there's no place for old-timers here. Newbies on the forum and in past tournaments were placed in the 4th bucket either by eye and nothing bad happened.
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Do you think that's fair?
There is little fairness in this world, someone will be dissatisfied, in this case it was me.
Dirty_Player
You'd better say thank you for such an interesting group. Enot, for example, was pleased and said that there would be more interesting games.
Sorry for my rudeness and pedantry, that's just how I am.
Thank you for the interesting group
p.s no one has grumbled on the forum for a long time, I needed to stir things up at least a little, that's all I have left
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The event was organized by a studio and has little to do with Heroes of Might and Magic.
That's what's frustrating right now...
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It was frustrating just now...
Roma here naturally referred to the gameplay.
I don't remember on which last CIS server reports were written about Hv, so I expressed myself that way.
Please don't take things out of context, you know we love you.
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FB is still the main tournament of ХВ. It could be expected that the ХВ rating would also be taken into account, at least so that the FB and Siberia champion wouldn't end up in the fourth basket, regardless of what seeding they came up with. Especially since the HotA rating is very unstable.
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...Especially since the HotA ranking is very unstable.
Are you serious? Well, maybe if we're talking about those ratings below 900...

p.s. A champion shouldn't protest against any draw. It's his teammates who should be unhappy, that's what makes him a champion. So, Zhenya, sorry, but I disagree with you on this.
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Are you serious? Well, if we're talking about ratings below 900, maybe...

And above 900, the quality suffers due to the number of games, because most people cling to their numbers.
I've never taken the rating seriously; at the Siberia championship, I was in the first bracket, even though not all the games were even at the PTS level. After that, I gave one Polish player 150 PTS just so that he could unexpectedly end up in the 4th bracket (what a thrill). The same FTS, as the CIS champion, wouldn't be in the first bracket either, simply because he scored a hundred points at the Siberia championship. By the way, I have a question: why is the CIS online tournament being held, but not the offline one?

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Regarding the topic, today at 17:15 Moscow time, we're playing against Shopa.
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Are you serious? Well, if we're talking about those ratings below 900, maybe...

The fact that you're in the top 3 in the lobby actually confirms my point. :D Just look at the fluctuations for Stinger or FTS.
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