Posts from Мафия 108. Haunted asylum

Why aren't you sleeping at night? You've written a lot, and I'm too lazy to read it. But I like the idea of **executing Yashur**. I'll think about it. I've already thought about it, haha.

Graf Orlov, okay, let's hear your guess about who Morning might be.

2. The first paragraph should always contain a literal description.

Thanks for that. So, it was either a Doctor or a Sheriff. And I'm still leaning towards the idea that they were killed by a Doctor, with the first hit – there are too many Doctors in this setting. This doesn't guarantee that the Mafia was specifically targeting a Sheriff; they might have made a mistake with the type of attack, but we'll keep that in mind for the future.

This is where you have to give credit to Nebos, as this demonstrates his skill in executing Yashur. I'll even give him a plus for this and write about it here – so people don't think I gave a plus because of a comment from Skype or Telegram. It seems Yashur's song is over.

Count Orlov, okay, let's hear your guess about the poll: who could Morning be?

Um, excuse me? I just said that neither a Mafia member nor a serial killer, in their right mind, would say such nonsense in a poll, so they must be Town. Without high IQ – Charlie and the Doctor.

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Okay, let's go over this again.
If the poll result comes from the Seer:
1. As is: lie about being a lone wolf.
2. It could be: lie about having high IQ. This means high IQ – not a serial killer. Let's assume the lie is about high IQ, leaving the Seer, Charlie, and the Doctor.
3. It could also be: lie about IQ. This means no high IQ – average IQ – not a serial killer. Let's assume the lie is about high IQ, which leads to the same error. Let's assume the lie is about average IQ: Seer, Charlie, and the Doctor.
I must have made a mistake somewhere.

Count Orlov, I personally don't see the point in revealing my peaceful role on the very first night, so for now, I like the Morning-mafia option the most. If it's not too much trouble, could you elaborate a bit more on the message "Okay, let's be consistent..." because I don't quite understand what you meant. Why did he lie specifically on the third point, etc.

I came up with 4 options: 1) Doctor Salzman - he has no points, high IQ, but he is NOT a lone wolf; 2) Player Charlie - he has no points, high IQ, but he is NOT a lone wolf; 3) Ghost of the Abbot - he has no points, high IQ, but he is NOT a lone wolf; 4) Ghost of the Girl - high IQ, lone wolf, could have chosen points at the beginning of the game and lied that she doesn't have any. By the way, the option with the girl is the least obvious - why would she immediately reveal her role? Based on this, Morning most likely had to answer that he has no points and a high IQ, but he lied about the Faction. He lied because if he had said "Peaceful," then the roles of Doctor and Player would be eliminated (it can't all be true).

And if you also respond to this message, that would be great. But for now, I suspect you are teaming up with Morning -_-

He lied because if he had said "peaceful," then the roles of Doctor and Player would have been revealed (everything can't be true).

Ah, I understand where I made a mistake. And you made a mistake, but you drew the correct conclusion, unlike me. He couldn't answer "peaceful" or "mafia." Only "not a maniac." Hmm. The settings are complex these days.
Or could he? Okay, GM, please clarify: are all the answers in binary form, yes/no?

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And the guard could have taken points, and then he would have approached, but a notebook would probably have been a better choice for him.

Ah, I understand where I made a mistake. And you made a mistake too, but you drew the correct conclusion, unlike me. He couldn't answer "peaceful" or "mafia." Only "not a maniac." Hmm. The settings are complex these days.
Or could he? Okay, GM, please clarify: are all the answers in binary form, yes/no?

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And the guard could have taken points, and then he would have approached, but a notebook would probably be a better choice for him.

Only yes/no.

The next day. **NNV**.

Last time, someone suggested the same thing and turned out to be a mafia member. Yashur was also a mafia member last time, by the way.

Alright, you’ve convinced me. **Cancel the Non-Aggression Pact,** **execute Morning.**

That's a different story. You just chose the wrong one.

You really like bold text, don't you? Execute Evil Yaschur - 2 (Morning, Sky) Execute Morning - 2 (Crabby, Crestfallen Ariake) You need 7 votes to execute.

Tox celebrated Halloween all night long (and even managed to play a couple of rounds of real-life Mafia), so he only showed up now.

A despicable camper. He could be punished for that.

Thanks for listening to me and starting an active discussion about the Night Detective (ND), yeah...

Once again:

1) Does everyone agree that Neffela had Suzanne, and not the Girl with the wrong ND?
2) What is your version of what the most advantageous ND for the girl would be on the first night?

I reread your posts again - have we narrowed down the roles for Morny to 4, right? Did we all come to a consensus that the third question was specifically "Are you a lone wolf?" I'm not entirely sure about this, but I'm willing to believe your conclusions.

But I want to note that I don't really believe that the girl chose glasses. Why? Because, as I understand it, nothing prevents her from taking the unique item "Phone," about which you can't ask in a poll. This is a very safe move, and I think the girl took the phone and something else, but not glasses, so that there wouldn't be a 100% match with the blogger in terms of items. Yes, you'll say that taking the same set as a strong town role is smart, but I wouldn't risk it. I would take the phone and something random that most town roles have (excluding the blogger) and is not present in two copies in the inventory of the ghosts (not the watch). Some notebook/wallet, something like that.

The paragraph above is just my theory, which doesn't pretend to be serious. In the end, Morny, if he's a girl, could just say, "Screw it, I'll play the Journalist" and take glasses and a phone, why not...

In short, we have a 50:50 situation. Charlie doesn't appeal to me; it's just Mafia 2.0, it does more harm to the town than good, so I would even be willing to say that we have a 75% chance of guessing correctly with Morny's execution, if not for one thing - there are only 8 town roles, and on the next night, if we execute a town role, we might end up in a 5-3-1-1 situation. In this situation, the girl easily gets in good with the Mafia, and we'll have to rely on the Mafia again... I don't like this at all.

Yashur, as I said in my first post, didn't appeal to me because of his distraction with the poll and only the poll. Could this be an aggressive move by the Mafia? Quite possibly.

I would send a few checks or something like that to Yashur. We can try to isolate Morny. Why? Because if he's the girl, he won't kill anyway; if he's the Investigator, he will only have time to use one block (and we won't be able to prevent the Investigator from using his block in the order of NDs, so forget about it) and won't kill anyone with a non-targeted kill; if he's Charlie, he won't be able to mess things up with a swap of NDs; and if he's the Doctor, the Mafia, who is reading all this and who has already narrowed down the set of roles for Morny, won't kill him. If they go to him with a kill, for a 33% chance of taking out the Doctor, and they fail, that will be a shame.

Yes, I may have made a more Mafia-like move than a town move above, because nothing prevents the Mafia, knowing this plan, from killing Morny (if he's not the Investigator) with the Guardian, ignoring the isolation, but we can also come up with something for that.

Oh, and yes, I, knowing perfectly well that when I'm town, I'm consistently eliminated on the 2nd-3rd night, would like to request some kind of protection, if possible. I'm not saying anything specific, but I ask that you trust me in this game and give me at least a couple more nights to live.

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In short, NNV, forget about Morny and let's discuss what the girl did and what happened to Neffela...

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I noticed something else here... Houston, we have a problem.

Ult: Resurrection. The ability to revive a player killed in the previous night. If he comes to a corpse that has already been gnawed on by the Survivor, he cannot revive him. The ult is consumed. He cannot revive ghosts and executed players.

18. Eating the corpse from the Survivor (displayed)
19. Resurrection from Salzman (displayed upon success)

Can use 2 NDs per night.

I don't know how the Doctor can successfully use his ult in these conditions... If the probability that the Survivor will use the corpse-eating ability on the corpse of the previous night is very, very high...