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I think it's necessary. Why did you decide it's not? Do you have some brilliant strategy on how to defeat the Mafia with the Father without any information?

I don't want to accidentally eliminate a key role right now. Even for information. An even bigger failure would be my execution for the sake of information.

If a town member is executed now, especially an important one, it will only bring the Mafia closer to victory. The Father is strong, of course, but not all-powerful. He is protected by the Knight's protection, natural protection, and healing. He can end up in the Mana role. Or he might be targeted by the Mana or Stronghold Archer. There's no need to over-dramatize the current situation; the situation doesn't yet require us to immediately execute someone. We have a good option for the next day.

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It's too overconfident to be burned on the fourth night, even for such a setup. And for what? For executing a "possibly peaceful" player who can't even be a key role for the town?
Hmm, there are already 7 town members, and if we assume the murder attempt failed today, we can expect 5-6 by the fourth night. A couple of inactive players. Is it really too overconfident? I think it's quite possible to rush. If we remove the serial killer from the equation, then definitely.
How to factor in the serial killer in the equations – well, that's a delicate art, and I don't know.
 

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We have a PSL ult. Why not use it and execute the most likely candidate tomorrow "for information"? I can be permanently kept under blocks/isolations until it becomes clear that I am a town member.

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Hmm, there are already 7 town members, and if we assume that today's murder was unsuccessful, then by the fourth night we can expect 5-6. A couple of inactive players. Is it too confident? I think it's quite possible to rush. If we remove the serial killer from the equation, then definitely.
How to take the serial killer into account in the equations - well, that's a delicate art, I don't know.

No matter how you look at it, this is very confident. There is a high chance of failure. And it's not that easy to remove the serial killer from the equation.
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I can be permanently kept under blocks/isolations until it becomes obvious that I am peaceful.
And who are you after that statement? If your isolation automatically demonstrates your peacefulness, then you are probably the role that someone else here is trying to portray. Why not execute them?
If it's not automatic, but rather requires a long period of observation during the day, then it's probably a hint about a test/game, right? Of course, it's possible, but agree that such a hint is convenient for the Mafia. However, permanent isolation of a Town member doesn't seem like a beneficial strategy for the Town.
 

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And who are you after that statement? If your isolation automatically demonstrates your peaceful nature, then you are, apparently, the role that someone else here is trying to portray.
I really don't want to reveal anything or make hints about my role. But I also don't want to be executed. And, to be honest, I don't understand who you are referring to.
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No, we have Gumer here, who's an expert at subtle hints; I prefer being direct:
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And one more thing I’ll say directly. The fact that you are even considering some options here doesn't sit well with me. You should know whether your NDA is published in the newspaper and what its order is relative to the mother's isolation
 

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Someone among the early voices addressing you, Master, claimed that an incredible truth had been revealed to them, leading them to believe that you bring no good to us.
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I don't want to accidentally eliminate a key role right now. Even for information. It would be an even bigger failure to execute me for information.
This doesn't explain your fundamental position against executing anyone today. Who is the key role? You? A cop? And are all assets also key roles? You definitely have your own list, you spent the whole day in discussions, and in the end, the best you can offer is to not execute anyone?
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We have a vote from PSL. Why not use it and execute the most likely candidate tomorrow "for information"? I can be permanently kept under blocks/isolations until it becomes clear that I am harmless.
With such proposals, you deserve to be executed.
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What’s the problem with Homer? We all know that no one is better than Deadpool! :D
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Deadpool breaks the fourth wall, and it works because he's addressing the viewer, not the characters. It makes sense!
 

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This doesn't explain your fundamental opposition to executions today. Who is the key player? You? A cop? And are all the inactives also key players? You probably have your own list, you spent the whole day in discussions, and in the end, the best you can offer is to not execute anyone? With such proposals, you deserve to be executed.

Okay, point your finger at any inactive or whoever you suspect. If an execution is needed for information, and you're not afraid to accidentally eliminate one of the key town roles, let it be so, rather than the current situation. I don't know how else to explain that an execution won't give me any new information, other than tracking the progress of the vote itself.

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Okay, point your finger at any inactive player or whoever you suspect. If a execution is needed for information, and you're not afraid to accidentally eliminate one of the key town roles, let it be that way, rather than the current situation.

I don't know how else to explain that an execution won't give me any new information, other than tracking the progress of the vote itself.

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If I'm for an execution, I'm ready to execute Ment and Mystiar. I'm also still ready to execute Freud, Crabby, and less so, Humer.
No one else offered any suggestions regarding the execution, so this will be the list. You decide.
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Laugh all you want, but for now, only Gumer is clearly hinting at something in this game... Although, I have a theory that you, Master, are consistently proving your madness (like, yes, it's negative, but it won't give any information about the mafia, and why even execute me when you can permanently isolate me), but this scenario (the first attempt to execute a mafia member) personally suits me more than the NNV.
 

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No one else offered anything regarding the organization of the execution, so this list will be used. You decide.

Execute Freud

I'll add my comments regarding the voting on me. The first two – Krabby and Fragment – are most likely Town (they're a bit crazy, especially Krabby – if he decided to reveal himself, he should at least be 100% sure he's right). The Mafia probably added a few votes, but 1-2 at most (most likely just 1). It would be obviously awkward for them to add the last vote. Krabby certainly did them a disservice and probably revealed my role. I don't know why it's still not obvious to everyone else.

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Master, why Freud?
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