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In reply to vasik
6 years ago
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I tried surrendering, and it worked; now Kaine can be hired in the tavern. I cleared all the previous battles without Kaine, and it was a real pain having to reload so many times.
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In reply to vasik
6 years ago
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You need to escape, not surrender, for the hero to appear in the tavern. If he surrenders or doesn't manage to escape, it's like losing a hero. I don't know why it's designed that way, but it ends up being a bit more expensive due to having to buy new units. Otherwise, you need artifacts that boost initiative and keep harassing him until he attacks the castle, because he's a very dangerous enemy with teleportation.
Thanks, your advice was very helpful!
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6 years ago
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Decided to play through this atmospheric map for the third time. This time, my hero chose Railag, as the plan was to reduce the initiative of the enemies. Immediately, I headed underground to capture buildings and recruit "invisible" troops. I returned to the first guest, having acquired "Pyrokinesis" and "Lucky Mage," and later, "Phoenix Robe." Considering that the elder druids from reinforcements increased magic to 67, the rest of the Walkthrough was easy, and my strategy was correct. I easily defeated all the enemies, including Kana, as I had a large number of troops accumulated from the City of Mages, thanks to "Night Hags," etc. For the battle against Pyrrhus, I simply switched my hero to Arantir, and then came the most interesting part: In the battle against Udon, if you use "Regeneration," a bug is observed! After the battle, all troops are in the same quantity as before the battle. For example, after the battle, I had 38 monks left (I was tired of simply "raising" them with regeneration), but after the autosave, I had 185 monks again! The same story happened with all the troops where I used this spell, and where I didn't, they died as expected! No mods are installed. The battle was in the Castle of the Humans. I think this is a bug due to choosing a non-standard hero, knowing the ending. That's how it is. One more tip for everyone: if possible, meet enemies outside the castle; this will give you time to capture buildings and gain a good advantage. I didn't even upgrade logistics and still managed to be everywhere on time. There was a "Plague Week," but still, by the end, there were so many troops that I didn't know what to do with them! I didn't even need dragons (and black magic doesn't affect them). I defeated everyone on the first try without reloading, and I still haven't found a staff with 20 "Initiative"! In short, the main thing is to have a plan for the game. Good luck to everyone. Once again, thank you to the author for the super interesting map! I really want to play it again, but with a new strategy and hero.
In reply to perfsig
6 years ago
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Decided to play through this atmospheric map for the third time. This time, the main hero became Raileg, as the plan was to take advantage of his ability to reduce enemy initiative. Immediately, I headed underground to capture buildings and recruit "invisible" troops. I returned to the first guest, having acquired "Pyrokinesis" and "Lucky Mage," and later, "Phoenix Cloak." Considering that the elder druids from reinforcements increased magic by up to 67, the rest of the Walkthrough was easy, and my strategy was correct. I easily defeated all the enemies, including Kana, as I had a large number of troops accumulated from the City of Mages, thanks to "Night Hags," etc. For the battle against Pyrrhus, I simply switched the main hero to Arantir, and then came the most interesting part: In the battle against Udon, if you use "Regeneration," a bug is observed! After the battle, all troops are in the same quantity as before the battle. For example, after the battle, I had 38 monks left (I was tired of simply "raising" them with regeneration), but after the autosave, I had 185 monks again! The same story happened with all troops where I used this spell, and where I didn't, they died as expected! No mods are installed. The battle was in the Castle of Humans. I think this is a bug due to choosing a non-standard main hero, knowing the ending. That's how it was.
Another tip for everyone: if possible, meet enemies outside the castle; this will give you time to capture buildings and gain a good advantage. I didn't even upgrade logistics and still managed to be everywhere on time. There was a week of plague, but still, by the end, there were so many troops that I didn't know what to do with them! I didn't even need dragons (and black magic doesn't affect them). I defeated everyone on the first try without reloading, and I still haven't found a staff with 20 "Initiative"! In short, the main thing is to have a plan for the game. Good luck to everyone. Thanks again to the author for the super interesting map! I really want to play it again, but with a new strategy and main hero.
What difficulty did the hero play on?
In reply to yuuur5
6 years ago
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I finally managed to clear the dungeon, probably on the 30th attempt. His army just grew tenfold, you could say, in the 2 weeks he spent underground. I found a decent Hive there in the library.
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6 years ago
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What difficulty level was the hero playing on?
No, it was in War... Two brothers (siege masters), or something like that, were so scared to attack that one of them just gave all his troops to the other... I was laughing! I just wiped them out like they were kids; the second one only had one stack... it was fun.
And on Cana, you need to choose 3 skills in the skill wheel that reduce magic: in Luck, Defense, and Chaos, plus give everyone mini-artifacts against magic and defense, and then you can easily handle Dark and Chaos...
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6 years ago
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perfsig
There's no honor in war... Two brothers (siege masters), they were so scared to attack that one just gave all his troops to the other... I was laughing! I crushed them like kids; the second one only had one stack... it was fun.
And against Kahn, you need to choose 3 skills in the skill wheel that reduce magic: in luck, defense, and chaos + give everyone mini-artifacts against magic and defense, and then you can easily handle him in darkness and chaos...
Well, yes, but that strategy might not work on the hero anymore. I only went into the Dungeon when Kahn arrived, then I ran around in it, found a Hive, and in 2 weeks, Kahn's army grew 5 times in size.
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5 years ago
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I only went into the Dungeon when Kahn arrived.
..well, then yes, it's too late... you need to swim there immediately and not waste turns collecting resources. Then, on the first day of the second week, you'll already capture the Hunting Grounds... then two mines and rush to the Witches' Hut and immediately to the portal to the city. Let others pick up everything later... put idlers in a chain to the Fortress to upgrade Invisible units... don't take Groves until the very end of the game, that way you save a lot of experience... just run around the Arenas and Temples... that's how it was.
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5 years ago
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Decided to play through this atmospheric map for the third time. This time, the main hero became Raileg, as the plan was to rely on his ability to reduce enemy initiative. Immediately headed underground to capture buildings and recruit "invisible" troops. Returned to the first guest, having acquired "Pyrokinesis" and "Lucky Mage," and later "Phoenix Cloak." Considering that the elder druids from reinforcements increased magic skill up to 67, the rest of the Walkthrough was easy, and my strategy was correct.
I easily defeated all enemies, including Kana, as I had a large number of troops accumulated from the City of Mages, thanks to "Night Hags," etc. For the battle against Pyrrhus, I simply switched the main hero to Arantir, and then came the most interesting part: In the battle against Udon, if you use "Regeneration," a bug occurs! After the battle, all troops are in the same quantity as before the battle. For example, after the battle, I had 38 monks left (I was tired of simply "raising" them with regeneration), but after the autosave, I had 185 monks again! The same story happened with all troops where I used this spell, and where I didn't, they died as expected! No mods are installed. The battle was in the Human castle. I think this is a bug due to choosing a non-standard main hero, knowing the ending. That's how it is.
Another tip for everyone: if possible, meet enemies outside the castle; this will give you time to capture buildings and gain a good advantage. I didn't even upgrade logistics and still managed to be everywhere on time. There was a "Plague Week," but still, by the end, there were too many troops! Even dragons weren't needed (and black magic doesn't affect them). I defeated everyone on the first try without reloading, and I still haven't found a staff with 20 "Initiative"! In short, the main thing is to have a plan for the game. Good luck to everyone. Thanks again to the author for the super interesting map! I really want to play it again, but with a new strategy and main hero.

Thank you for the feedback. I haven't tried playing with Raileg yet; it's probably very difficult to manage the early battles against demons with him as the main hero.

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I finally defeated Kana, probably on the 30th attempt. His army simply grew tenfold; consider that he was "fermenting" underground for 2 weeks, and I found a Hive there in the library.

Was the final battle easier than the one with Kana?
I didn't quite understand what you meant by "fermenting" underground. Kana shouldn't have been able to get into the underground, let alone "ferment" there for 2 weeks. Or are you talking about Kaine?
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In reply to MasteR
5 years ago
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MasteR
Thank you for your feedback. I haven't tried using Rai'lag yet; it's probably very difficult to manage the early battles against the demons with him.

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Was the last battle easier than the one against Kahn?
I didn't quite understand what you meant about wandering underground. Kahn shouldn't have been able to get into the dungeon, let alone wander around for two weeks. Or are you talking about Kane?
No, I was the main hero who went into the dungeon because I only found it towards the end when Kahn arrived. But Kahn's army grew a lot; I had 410 Adepts against about 900 Archdevils, about a fivefold increase. I managed to win purely through subjugation and using the hives. And the last battle was the easiest of all the battles before that, especially since the artifacts were passed on to the main hero, Rai'lag. If I had cheated before and bought Kane and partially weakened the enemy's army at the approach, the enemies up to Kahn would have been even easier to defeat.
In reply to yuuur5
5 years ago
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I crawled to the end of the map, 119 days ("hero"). The scenario is well-thought-out, the map's geography is good, and the map's artwork is of high quality. I didn't like the opposing heroes at all. I started playing the map, then stopped, and then continued. I got annoyed again, stopped, continued again, replayed it, got annoyed, and stopped... Right now, I'm not really in the mood for maps. But, as they say, in times of scarcity, even shrimp is a fish; without these circumstances, I wouldn't have reached the end of this map no matter what. In the pursuit of creating "difficulty," the core of the game – strategy – has been forgotten. How can we talk about strategic development if the AI heroes act according to their own, random rules, which are inaccessible to the player? It's like preparing a football team, but the opponent sends out a rugby team or a polo team on the field. (Udun annoyed me the most; Kahn is nothing, the battle is won on the first try.) Even in the final battle, it's not the hero that the player chooses who participates, but rather a random one. If it was stated at the beginning of the map that Railag is a key character, that would be one thing. But when he sits idle throughout the game, and then the author suddenly sends him into the last battle, that's something else entirely.

My main hero was Kane; he defended almost all the castle sieges. I tried Frieda, but it didn't work out; she looks too weak compared to the AI heroes. I put Zehir on a war elephant; he cleared most of the map, mentored other heroes, and met Pyrrhus. Fedya, Frieda, and Gotai captured and maintained the flag on the human dwellings. Isabelle guarded the rear in the castle. The rest were just running around, fetching and carrying.

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5 years ago
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13ga

Even in the final, it's not the hero the player chooses who goes, but rather a random one.

This was necessary for the plot and intrigue.
However, I smoothed out this moment by giving Railagu experience up to level 40, artifacts, and an army, as well as some time to reach the mentor or another hero.

Thank you for your feedback.
In reply to MasteR
5 years ago
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While browsing the map, I encountered an unpleasant bug. I used a mine as a sorting point for troops, leaving units in the mine's garrison. Suddenly, the mine changed its flag, and demonic stacks appeared there, while the units I left became my opponents. The mine's defense turned out to be reinforced.
There are significant problems with sorting diverse troops on the map. Leaving them in mines is not safe, and the Academy's castle garrison is one-sided. You can place troops in it, but you can't take them back out. Using a single hero as a holding area for unwanted units is not very convenient.
If reinforcements were sent in separate batches to different castles, it would eliminate the need to distribute units. But as it is, you can't do without a sorting point.
4 years ago
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Another issue has emerged: if you play with enhanced AI that focuses on spells (as recently shared), it's impossible to win the final battle. Imps will continue to gain mana despite being targeted, and without mana, victory is impossible. Unless you get extremely lucky and manage to attack them repeatedly, which isn't very realistic.

Perhaps their numbers could be reduced, and someone else added in their place, or simply reduce their numbers.
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2 years ago
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Question to the Master: Will the single-player scenarios "Resurrection," "Renunciation," and "Battle of the Celestial Gates" be combined into a campaign?

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