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Let me clarify.
The arrangements were made based on the initial list I posted earlier: comfortable accommodation, full board (three meals a day), a conference hall, and the administration's tolerance for alcohol and our noise.
In December, they stated that there were 16 rooms available (now 18 according to the booking site – perhaps they added more), with single, double, or triple occupancy, and the option to add an extra bed to individual rooms. This means that with a standard attendance of 35-40 people, the hotel would be fully occupied.
The administration initially quoted a price of $35 per person per day for the above (accommodation, full board, conference hall, and the ability to drink and make noise around the clock), and this is the only option in Tbilisi at that price.
The hotel is a recently renovated sports complex that has been converted into a hotel.
It has an indoor pool, a hot tub, and a fitness center (all available for an additional fee).
The price for a standard taxi from the airport to the hotel is around $25.

Niko's role, therefore, is to finalize the agreement with the administration based on a clear and specific request, to organize the airport-hotel transfer, and to assist with accommodation. The rest is up to self-organization (something similar to the distribution of roles was in place in 2013, if I'm not mistaken).
Does the $35 price include: accommodation, meals, and the conference hall, or is it just accommodation + breakfast?
And another question: could we consider Batumi as an alternative, or are there no like-minded people there who could help organize the event?
P.S. What about the internet, the channel, the admins, and the backup plan?
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Does the $35 price include: accommodation, meals, a conference room, or just accommodation + breakfast?
And another question: maybe we should still consider the Batumi option, or are there no like-minded people there who can help organize the event?
P.S. What about the internet, the channel, the admins, and a backup plan?
I hope Niko will write personally as well. I immediately set out a comprehensive set of requirements in the format: how much money for everything together: accommodation, three meals a day, a 24-hour room, our own alcohol, and a noisy group, with a minimum of contact with outsiders.
Internet - as usual: they claim to have some kind of Wi-Fi.

Batumi - firstly, there's no one to really take care of it; secondly, the tickets are more expensive (on Aviasales now for those dates: from Yekaterinburg to Tbilisi 22k round trip, to Batumi 26k round trip; from Novosibirsk, respectively, 27-28k versus 32k); thirdly, those who were willing to help charged 45-50 dollars/day for our requirements.
There was a Batumi option with a large cottage-villa (for 26-28 people), but it was rejected because there was nowhere to accommodate those who wouldn't fit in the immediate vicinity.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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Bishop, please create a version for the Moscow region – it’s your turn. Georgia in this format doesn’t look very promising right now.

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Here’s a version for you to work on: https://lesgor-pansionat.ru/pricing/
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

"Совесть - она либо есть, либо её нет" (с) RedWhait HP
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Bishop, it's your turn to suggest a location near Moscow. Georgia in this format seems questionable for now.

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Here's an option for consideration:
https://lesgor-pansionat.ru/pricing/
The forest town is good, but the idea of a trip to Georgia appeals to me more. Regarding Batumi: I think that only 26-28 people would be interested, so we could consider Batumi as an option. But if not, the option with Tbilisi is very appealing to me; it's always interesting to visit a new place, and besides, as we all remember, everyone loves warm weather during the May holidays.
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I was just talking to a Georgian colleague who used to live in Batumi. He says that for those who have never been to Georgia, Tbilisi is a must-see. It's impossible to be in Georgia and not visit Tbilisi. It's a beautiful city with many attractions, etc. Batumi is for having fun, drinking, and, of course, the sea. Something like that. Personally, I'm all for Tbilisi :smile23:

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Personally, I think that only 26-28 people will come, and we could consider Batumi as an option.
Even last time, there were 38 people, despite the fact that some couldn't come because they had already planned their May holidays. 26-28 is an unrealistic number. The number of people is approximately the same year after year: 40 plus or minus.
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.

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I don't know about the others, but overall, if the person organizing the trip in Tbilisi is understandable to Kirill and Dima, I don't see any problems with going to Georgia. Besides, there don't seem to be any other people interested in organizing a trip either. This is an old topic – the earlier, the cheaper the tickets.
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Considering the level of "activity," alternative options are exactly what's needed.
Нам это идеально подойдёт! (с)

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Considering the level of "activity," alternatives are definitely needed.
Kirill, unfortunately, we can only talk about other requests at the level of rumors. In this situation, having the hotel, city, approximate dates, and price range already seems like something more or less concrete.
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Perhaps it's time to conduct a poll of the type "Georgia - will go / will not go".
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Perhaps it's time to conduct a poll like "Georgia - will go / will not go".
I would like all the organizational issues to be clarified. Even if the organizer is not ready to do anything other than providing a link to a hotel, there still needs to be someone who says: "I will definitely go and organize everything on site." For now, everything is up in the air, and no one will rush to book tickets at the moment, and they are getting more expensive.
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I would like all the organizational issues to be clarified. Even if the organizer is not ready to do anything other than providing a link to a hotel, there still needs to be someone who says: "I will definitely come and organize everything on site." As long as everything is up in the air, no one will rush to buy tickets right now, and they are getting more expensive.
The whole point is the tickets, which are getting quite expensive from week to week, and there are not that many flights available, and flying to Tbilisi via Moscow is a questionable option.
Also, it would be good to finalize the dates.
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Guys Hello,
First of all sorry for writing in English. Because I rarely write in Russian, it takes way too much time for me. Hope you will understand it ��

Secondly, sorry about not being too active recently. As Merlin already has underlined, I do not usually organize such events, maybe that is why I could not give full and detailed information regarding your stay or accommodation.

I would like to inform you that my goal was never to make some money from this event. I just wanted to suggest you a place to come and spend couple of days drinking with you.
Maybe the reason you are not satisfied with my offer is because it lacks detailed information, so please reply on any issue that you will be interested in.

As for accommodation :

1. Hotel was opened in late 2018 so it seems clean and OK ish ( once again coming out of our budget )
2. Just talked with hotel management and they offer us following terms :
" 35 USD per person per night including 3X meal ( it will be Swedish table. I can not guarantee that there will be most delicious food that you can taste in Georgia, but it will be ok. Anyway we can organize gala dinner or other activities outside of the hotel additionally)
" Conference hall will be available for us during the time of your stay ( as I saw chairs are not very comfy, but I think we can figure something out and bring couple of tables / chairs and organize conference hall as we like it )
" Wi fi will be regular one somewhere with 50 MB - 100 MB speed
" Drinking alcohol will be allowed , if nobody brakes anything. Otherwise he/she will have to pay for broken things �� Smoking is forbidden in all closed places in Georgia, so in order to smoke, you will have to leave the building and go outside.
" Additional information : Its legal to smoke weed, so if anyone would like it, we can organize that one without problem.
" I have my own wine yards in Khakheti, so I will bring good family wine and lots of Chacha for free , as a gift to the event!
" Hotel has swimming pool / Sauna / shooting facility / gym / table tennis for additional payment

3. Taxy from Airport to Hotel/city center is 25-30 USD max. if you will be able to share it, its nothing. If I will have information when a group of 5-6 people arrive together, I can find a minivan and organize meeting at airport for some 10 USD per person.
4. In the city you can use Taxify or Yandex taxi applications and Taxi worth really cheap. Roughly USD 3-5 one way in the city.

If there are any points that I missed, please let me know. Also I suggest you to make up your mind quickly, before hotel will be booked.
As for my involvement in the event as an organizer, I will not be able to be with you guys for 24/7 but I will do my best to help you in any thing that you will need.

I suggest that couple of guys should arrive 2 days before event starts and I will be more than glad to help them in organizational issue for arranging everything in the conference room, etc.

I can also ask couple of my friends to be there whenever I will not be available, but believe me when you speak English and Russian, communication will not be a problem anywhere in the city!

Looking forward to your comments ��