Posts from Hive Leader 2: Fall of the Empire

Hello, I don't know if it's a bug or not, but when I bought artifacts in the shop, the last dragon artifact was missing, and I can't find it anywhere.

Heroist, I'm the only idiot who can't escape from the dungeon. How do I do it?

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I understand that it's done with 5 goblins.

It’s very simple: you go to the upper level and wait for the lord with his army to arrive. Before that, gather your crew in the dungeon.

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Lauran will have Blind and a decent army, but you need to preserve your army.

Yes, that's correct. First, click on the dungeon – you'll go down to the lower level, where you can gain a level and recruit troops, then return and wait for Loran.

Thank you, Laurent didn't experience any blinding. I play in war mode because you scared me.

I cast it twice... on Cyclops.

I finally finished it. I liked it more than the first one, but Remix is right: half the game is a race – will you escape from our Alaric or not.
Pros:
- Good landscape.
- Good scripts
- Alternatives
- Additional quests
Cons:
- Lord Loran Alarikovich runs around the map completely ignoring his own territory. (let him give time to build up!)
- My allied mage spent the whole game sitting in the castle. In the end, he had 200 titans there. (the elf, on the contrary, tried to kill me)
- I didn't immediately understand what to do after clearing the prison.
- A rebellious city. From it, the vassal of Loran periodically emerged with an army and brought it to Alarik himself.
- (main) Why have the thing with selling artifacts if you can create regions that the AI will ignore and in which the artifacts will be located (by the way, the AI didn't kill a single neutral creature for me during the game)?

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Ah, I almost forgot. The map is good!

That's strange, my allied mage, on the contrary, showed wonders of activity – captured mines, ran back and forth. I wanted to ask you:
in one of the quests, there is an Ent – he is the owner of the shipyard. Can he be destroyed in order to build a ship?

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Hello, I don't know if it's a bug or not, but when I bought artifacts in the shop, the last dragon artifact was missing, and it's nowhere to be found.

I have a similar situation, it's probably the author's intention

The best map I've played so far. The flaws: the yellow elf doesn't give the castle for 50k, the red keymaster's tent, although it wasn't needed, said there wasn't enough money, even though there was 100k, and the witch's hut near the orcish castle gave quests, but as I understand it, there are no such locations on the map, and you can't find the archer set. The mage stayed in his castle throughout the game until I entered the orcish lands. And when I did, the humans started capturing the orcish dwellings, even though they hadn't touched them before. The lord was killed by a dwarf, and I had just captured the castle, and voila, victory.

The map is really good. The author has talent. But! I have a couple of suggestions. I don't know how much time I spent skipping the castle and resource gathering. I suggest halving the time (for the dark side) spent collecting slaves/sacrifices. 5 weeks is exhausting. There's an interesting bug throughout the game (the auto-battle showed a loss, even though I was trying to defeat 20-40 monks or dancing skeletons with my entire army). I had to do it manually. P.S. The alternative ending (killing everyone) doesn't work. The mages remain friendly. The Witch is useless. The mages didn't touch my mines (they just hung around and abused the hut with high-level units every week). The pool, which is supposed to provide reinforcements, is useless (it only adds hassle and is annoying). The troops defending the crystals need to be strengthened at least threefold. The only "difficult" battle (I played trying to avoid losses) was the battle for the Mask of Justice (assassins + poison) (in terms of avoiding losses). Thank you.

Your map is a complete waste of time! I spent 2 hours on it, and in the end, the quest with Ner'zhul cannot be completed. I brought everything he asked for, but he still sends me away. 2 stars for the effort.

Is it version 3.1 of the game? Are there any third-party modifications? The map is quite old, and it has accumulated quite a few bugs, but I don't think I've heard of the one you mentioned. It shouldn't affect the playthrough, if I'm not mistaken. In any case, thank you very much for your opinion; it is very important to us.

After Remix's desperate attempt to complete the map, I decided to try my luck as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzy7iJReG0M
To fully understand Remix's desperation, it's best to watch from 1:40:10 onwards.

I played as a hero. I can't say the map is easy; quite the contrary, it's a challenging scenario.
The pros: well-designed, interesting plot that continues the first part. By the way, if you haven't played the first one, I recommend starting with it. Well-balanced, many additional quests. There's even an alternative development path, which is rare for Heroes 5 in general. There are cutscenes, and a beautiful ending.

The cons: one artifact is constantly missing, which makes the quests impossible to complete.
The author's biggest mistake is the bug with the keymaster, who asks for 50,000 to be paid, but when you come to him with that amount, he refuses to give the artifacts, saying: you don't have enough money.
This is really frustrating. I had to pay him 200,000 for him to give me the artifacts.
But in this case, the author should fix this issue. Few people will be able to figure it out.
I hope for a continuation.

The map is really good. The author has talent.
But! I have a couple of suggestions. I don't know how much time I spent skipping the Castle and its upgrades. I suggest halving the time (for the Dark side) to gather slaves/sacrifices. 5 weeks is exhausting.
There's an interesting bug throughout the game (the auto-battle showed a loss, even though I was trying to defeat 20-40 monks or dancing units with my entire army). I had to do it manually.
P.S. The alternative ending (killing everyone) doesn't work. The mages remain friendly.
The Witch is useless. The mages didn't touch my mine guards (they just hung around and abused the hut with high-level units every week). The pool, which is supposed to provide upgrades, is useless (it only adds hassle and is annoying). The troops defending the crystals need to be strengthened by at least three times. The only "difficult" battle (I played trying to avoid losses) was the battle for the Mask of Justice (assassins + poison) (in terms of avoiding losses).
Thank you.

I'm playing it for the second time. I'll write here what has changed and what hasn't.
I always enjoy seeing something like this at the beginning of the game.
1. The placement of the prisoner guards hasn't been fixed (you can still take some troops without a fight). The placement of the guards needs to be adjusted. Troops of different levels (on this map, it doesn't bother me, I accepted it as an additional condition).
2. To leave the prison, you spend the night on Saturday in the basement, and on Sunday, you spend the night upstairs. Once, the script didn't work / I don't know why.
3. The Sphinx in the Mage's lands is useless. In the week spent in prison, it has already been gutted, and it is "pondering why the author didn't think of that"). The same goes for the Pyramid. The Mage's lands turn out to be just for decoration.
In general, looking at the map, you can call it cozy and somewhat fairytale-like. Well, that's how I expressed my emotions. There's a feeling that the author doesn't like Mages and Dwarves. He has crammed them into some awkward corners. The Orcs' domains are worthy. The Imperials have Rome and a full-fledged colony diagonally across the map. Even the Graveyard and the Swamp have their own ecosystem (why without a Castle?). The Mages and Dwarves look like placeholders. Maybe it would have been better to place the Necromancers and Dwarves underground? There's plenty of space there... altars and everything. Sorry.
4. The balance of the map is clearly not heroic... in essence, the map could be played on auto-battle from a certain point, if someone is willing to accept minimum losses of 1-3 units in each battle. That is, only the key battles have meaning and interest. Because of this, the map loses a lot - it is clearly weaker than the first one in this regard.
5. I remembered! The first time I played, I went to the right towards the Undead, and accordingly, I automatically became Dark there. Then I didn't understand where the Ents had gone, near the shipyard, next to the Elf Castle. So, I was glad to notice that I am now on the Light side, although I looked... in general, the Elves are a useless faction on the map (I hoped that their Castle would terraform into an Orcish one...). 3 years is still a long time when I played.
6. I got "Wrath of the Horde" and "Roar" in the Orcish Castle. I don't know if the author programmed it or if I was just lucky.
7. Of the cheat codes offered by the author, I only took "Wings of the Angel" and only because it is impossible to break through to the human outpost to the Orcs without control, and even with it, I think it will be problematic - there are 2K Paladins.))
8. You can get obsessed and get over 80lvl. )) break through the garrison (by the way, I didn't understand what it was for) with 10000 angels (they are in one stack) on the island where the game begins, having "Roar" in your spells (its cost is 0 mana). Take a Shahid into your army to remove the retaliation and beat everyone to a pulp. I personally got tired when there were 95000 of them. It would be nice to add armies for the Crystal faction, one per hero.
In principle, I wrote what I wanted. The map is weaker than the first one, but it was interesting. Thank you for the game.

(Orcs are the only race I can't play without taking losses).

I never would have thought that even MasteR doesn't play Orcs perfectly.))) There's basically one strategy: don't let your opponents move and use Bloodlust. A lot of Bloodlust, empathy, and developed War Cry skills – that's basically how you play Orcs almost without losses (not counting the Goblins). You can also use a tent if you go through the Machines (which you can't get on this map until you have at least one castle). The most important artifact for Orcs is the Boots of the Wanderer (try to get them at the very beginning of the game if possible, reload until you get them), because you can't get a speed aura due to Bloodlust, so you need a tactic that allows you to reach your enemies quickly. Ballistics is optional. In general, Orcs can play without losses on the Grail map – but only at a certain level of play, when they have gained enough speed and Bloodlust. P.S. There hasn't been anything new for a long time (I'm talking about Heroic content), everything has become boring and repetitive, it's all been played and replayed – my only interest in this game is to try to play without losses (completely, absolutely). Only then is it interesting to me