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СКИФ

19 years ago

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The Chinese want to and can do it, so why blame them for everything? Demand determines supply; as long as it is permissible to hire cheap labor from abroad, things will remain this way.

RedB

19 years ago

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That’s exactly what I meant… it’s all in his head.

Nowizard

19 years ago

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In my opinion, for things to at least somewhat stabilize in the country, people should listen to Zadornov and, disregarding politics, do everything themselves. IMHO, but the main problem with Russians is that they rely on the authorities for everything, knowing that they won't do anything. No offense, but almost all the posts here about Russia's problems (including mine) can be compared to neighbors complaining that the plumbing still hasn't been fixed. But why don't you just fix it yourself!

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Artes

19 years ago

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Nowizard;43817

In my opinion, for things to at least somewhat stabilize in the country, people should listen to Zadornov and, disregarding politics, do everything themselves. IMHO, but the main problem with Russians is that they rely on the authorities for everything, knowing that they won't do anything. No offense, but almost all the posts here about Russia's problems (including mine) can be compared to neighbors complaining that the plumbing still hasn't been fixed. But why don't you just fix it yourself!

Regarding Zadornov, I agree, and also with the point about the political aspect of Russian people's lives. Trust in God, but don't be lazy.

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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Orthodoxy ceased to be a unifying idea a long time ago. Do you believe in priests preaching asceticism who drive foreign cars and parade around in their fancy vehicles? I don't believe in that kind of Orthodoxy. And in the early 20th century, and in the 19th century, it was pretty much the same. I can say this as a historian. I don't blame the Chinese – they just want to live better, and it's not their fault that 30 million Siberians stand in their way. I don't blame the Russians – it's silly to blame an old man for not exercising. I blame our government, which only eats and sells us out. The best comparison of the relationship between Russia and Siberia was given by N.M. Yadrintsev in the mid-19th century: "Russia reminds me of a mother who is greedily sucking her own breast in front of a hungry child." And as soon as Siberians stand up for their rights, they immediately shout: "Separatists! They are undermining national unity." There is no unity. And the holiday on November 4th is complete idiocy. Let's celebrate every time Moscow is saved, and we'll have a continuous holiday all year long.

Nowizard

19 years ago

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Alexey, priests NEVER drive foreign cars! Watch fewer Soviet films and cartoons! Yes, there are some overweight priests, but you're going to say that if a person has little money, they must necessarily be thin? Go to the Temple of Maron the Hermit in Syria and meet Fathers Andrei and Alexander, and then be quiet! Just be quiet! If you don't know, why spread slander? Only a small part of the priests are overweight; it's just that it's more profitable to ridicule them, as the communists did. Maybe you've heard that different people have different metabolisms? I have a friend who eats almost nothing (he has a poor appetite), and he's the "broadest" in the class. People stopped believing in Orthodoxy when Lenin snapped his fingers, that is, a long time ago. The Soviet people didn't dare to open their mouths (especially under Stalin), and the next generation was born into this and didn't really believe in God. And DON'T slander Orthodoxy if you don't have good arguments.

You're right, I don't blame the Chinese either; I even deeply respect them because I studied their history for a while. But that doesn't mean that everything should be blamed on Eastern Europe again! Again, it's easy: "The capital is there, the power is there, so everyone there is to blame." If the capital of Russia were somewhere in Yakutsk, I'm sure the Western "subhumans" would reason about you in exactly the same way. Damn, a few posts ago, I said that tearing each other apart only makes things worse!

Okay, let it be! Let's split up again! Like in the good old days! The CIS will fall apart, and there will be many, many small states. And then it will be really fun! America will swallow Europe, a second "Mongol-Tatar yoke" will begin in Siberia, and everyone will be happy! Everyone will be happy! Russia will no longer exist! The "evil empire" will be destroyed at the root! Isn't that what you're trying to achieve? And that's exactly what's happening, through constant "mutual gnawing."

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СКИФ

19 years ago

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Nowizard;43901

Alexey, priests NEVER drove foreign cars! Watch fewer Soviet films and cartoons! Yes, there are overweight priests, but you'll also say that if a person has little money, they must necessarily be thin. Go to the Temple of Maron the Hermit and meet Fathers Andrei and Alexander, and then be quiet! Just be quiet! If you don't know, why spread slander in vain? Only a small part of the priests are overweight; it's just that it's more profitable to ridicule them, as the communists did. Maybe you've heard that different people have different metabolisms? I have a friend who eats almost nothing (he has a poor appetite), and he's the "widest" in the class. People stopped believing in Orthodoxy not when Lenin snapped his fingers, but long ago. The Soviet people didn't dare to open their mouths (especially under Stalin), and the next generation was born into this and didn't truly believe in God. And DON'T slander Orthodoxy if you don't have good arguments.

January 9, 1905 ("Bloody Sunday"), the day when government troops fired on a peaceful procession of St. Petersburg workers (over 140,000) marching to the Winter Palace with a petition to Emperor Nicholas II. Over 1,000 people were killed, and 2,000 were wounded. This tragedy marked the beginning of the Revolution of 1905-07.
And after that, Nicholas II was canonized as a SAINT!!! I believe in God, but after this, I don't want to believe in the Church!!!

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Magnus

19 years ago

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And after that, Kolyan II was added to the ranks of the SAINTS!!! I believe in God, but after this, I don't want to believe in the church anymore!!!

Back then, he wasn't there. They shot him without his knowledge.

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Nowizard

19 years ago

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January 9, 1905 ("Bloody Sunday"), the day government troops opened fire on a peaceful procession of St. Petersburg workers (over 140,000) marching to the Winter Palace with a petition to Emperor Nicholas II. Over 1,000 people were killed, and 2,000 were wounded. This tragedy marked the beginning of the 1905-07 Revolution.
And after this, Nicholas II was added to the ranks of the SAINTS!!! I believe in God, but after this, I don't want to believe in the church anymore!!!

Let's recall another case: the Bolsheviks could have simply seized power and sent the royal family into exile, as they initially did, but that wasn't enough for Lenin. Nicholas II, his wife, and children were brutally shot, and it was done in SECRET. Eleven bullets were fired into the 11-year-old Tsarevich Alexei, plus a final shot to the head. The Bolsheviks didn't stop there. They shot all the intellectuals who hadn't managed to hide, as well as the peasants (PEASANTS!!!) who refused to renounce God. I won't even talk about the repressions! And now, answer me one question: who should be called the bloodthirsty one? Considering that, as Magnus rightly pointed out, Nicholas was not in the palace that Sunday and had no idea what was happening! The "bloodthirsty" title was imposed on him by the communists to make themselves look like heroes in the eyes of the people, whom they themselves were shooting at!

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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Wiz, I used to work at a car wash, and a priest would come by regularly to have his car washed. The car was quite nice, but the main thing was that we had to wash it at our own expense. So, I'm not slandering or making things up. I saw it all myself. I'm not saying that most priests are like that, but it's these kinds of priests that create the image of all of them. The Bolshevik party in 1917 was the smallest of all the parties; they were losing to the Kadets, the Socialist Revolutionaries, and even the Mensheviks. And why did they win in the end? Don't talk about Lenin's special malice and cunning. The Bolsheviks were actually supported by the majority of the people. And they won the civil war precisely because of this. Moreover, they didn't even hide their views on religion before coming to power, and yet they were supported. This only shows that Orthodoxy had lost its support among the people. I assert this as a historian who specializes in the role of Orthodoxy. Stalin himself was a seminary student and had respect for the church, fighting it not because of religious issues, but because of the church's support for anti-government protests. And don't say that the Bolsheviks destroyed more priests than the Russian tsars did of the Old Believers. The Old Believers still haven't forgotten that. And in general, if you're going to argue, do it based on facts, not emotions. You can't be a prisoner of your own myths; you have to be objective. Russia will fall apart even without the help of Siberians. This is a natural process. But the problem is that it is trying to drag those who could survive down with it into the grave. Why not support the Siberians now, create conditions for them to live, raise salaries so that there is no need for Chinese labor? That would be expensive; it's better to let Siberia go to the Chinese.

Nowizard

19 years ago

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Listen, Alex, priests aren't monks after all. On Sundays and Saturdays they serve in the church, and on other days they work just like everyone else. This priest probably has a good job, which is why he drives a nice car. As for everything else—I'm tired of arguing with you. If you want to complain, go ahead and complain. I say we need to unite; you say give Siberia money, Russia will fall apart anyway. Forgive my bluntness, of course, but Russia will fall apart because of people like you!—people who can only say "Russia is hopeless." If you support the revolution so much, why don't you pick up a pitchfork yourself and march on the government? I know how to complain about life too, but when it comes to acting, you say "no one will listen to us," but you don't even need to strive for them to listen! You have to go and speak up!

You can dislike my post a thousand times if you want. I've said my piece.

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Artes

19 years ago

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Why does everything happen this way? Lazy people (and there are many of them!) sit in front of the TV, watch the news, and criticize the authorities. But are they too weak to speak up or change anything? And don't slander the priests!!!

RedB

19 years ago

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I have a Temple in my Instagram... every Friday, a priest comes in a Mercedes... there's a department of theology... and regarding the idea that power belongs to the people, that smells like socialism. The people deserve the rulers they have.

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Artes

19 years ago

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Please don’t generalize.

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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You know, I'm only willing to step out and fight when I have at least some chance of winning. I'm not a fan of glorious defeats. If I can contribute to the future of my people, I'll endure. I'm not stupid enough to charge into the system alone with a pitchfork. I'm looking for supporters of my ideas so that we can act together someday. Accusing me of undermining the country is, of course, easier than looking for the root causes. There he is – the enemy, let's get him! Doesn't that sound familiar? I'm tired of arguing without my opponents providing any facts, relying only on emotions. Let's compare facts, not just shout about who is right and who is wrong. For comparison: the average salary in Russia is 10,000. In Siberia, it'

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