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Artes

19 years ago

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Believe me, they are much better.

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Uke-by_HoMM![Zавулон]

19 years ago

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Believe me, they are much better.

Unfortunately, not everyone is capable of suppressing negative thoughts about others!

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I mean that thoughts exist, and you can't escape them! Controlling them in your head is not easy at all!

Добро- Не цель, а средство, Зло- Дорога к цели...
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Magnus

19 years ago

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And finally, if God loves everyone, then why is there hell and purgatory? Would you torture your children if they didn't take out the trash?

Yes, I agree with Novizart that you don't understand much about Orthodoxy.
Our life is a test of a person's soul, and demons and devils tempt people and drag them along, but only a person who has withstood the test is capable of being in paradise. And also, in Orthodoxy, unlike Catholicism, there is no purgatory.

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СКИФ

19 years ago

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And specifically for Alexei, as food for thought, I will explain the meaning of Orthodoxy in one word - love.

So according to you, Hitler should live in paradise???

1. And can you explain what love is??? I doubt it... Great minds have pondered this, and not a single one could properly understand what it is.
2. The Bible says that God created people in His own image.:rolleyes: It also says there that God is perfect and does not make mistakes, and everything in the world goes according to His will. Right? Then why is it asked, as you say, why Hitler should go to hell??? For fulfilling God's purpose??? In my opinion, this is complete nonsense! The Bible is a poorly written fairy tale by someone, like The Da Vinci Code; there are few places with as many contradictions as in the Bible! Especially in the New Testament. (IMHO)

Пуля производит удивительные изменения в голове, даже если она попадает в за***цу.

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Nowizard

19 years ago

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1. Can you explain what love is? I doubt it... Great minds have pondered this, and none have been able to truly understand it.
2. The Bible says that God created people in his image:rolleyes:. It also says that God is perfect and does not make mistakes, and that everything in the world happens according to his plan. Is that right? But then, why should Hitler go to hell? For fulfilling God's purpose? I think that's complete nonsense! The Bible is a poorly written story, like The Da Vinci Code, with so many contradictions, more than you find in most books! Especially in the New Testament. (IMHO)

Dear SKIFF. Let's start with the fact that I never said I know what love is. Although, no, I did say it (see signature:)), but that's just one opinion. God created people in his external image and likeness. He also gave people the right to choose, so that they themselves decide where to go: to God or to the devil. So, blaming GOD for the sins of people is foolish. He immediately told people where the truth is, where the falsehood is, and declared: do what you want, just don't touch the fruit from this tree. And that's it. And the fact that Adam disobeyed him doesn't mean that God planned it that way; you misunderstood that statement. God knows the future and the past; he knows in advance how everything will happen. And that doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be the way he wanted it. As for "What would have happened if Adam hadn't taken a bite of the apple" - who told you that God forbade Adam and Eve from loving each other? You're so naive:D.

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2. They are destroying religion with their discoveries.
3. They contradict everything that is written in the Bible.

I disagree with you here!:) Quite the opposite.:p

Бог есть любовь

СКИФ

19 years ago

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And who has seen God, to say that we resemble Him?
And it is foolish to blame people for their misdeeds if God knowingly created them flawed. Couldn't He have made them "good"?

Пуля производит удивительные изменения в голове, даже если она попадает в за***цу.

Nowizard

19 years ago

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It seems you haven't quite grasped the point. Yes, you can create a puppet-like person who only thinks about your greatness and constantly praises you. However, God initially created people as perfect beings (man as the crown of creation) and gave them the right to choose, so they could decide which path to follow. God granted people FREEDOM.
You are right, no one has seen God. We only know that we were created in his image and likeness. Tell me, have you ever seen the wind? What does it look like?

Бог есть любовь

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Magnus

19 years ago

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SKIF;44765

It's foolish to blame people for their wrongdoings if God knowingly created them flawed.

God gave them the right to choose, but they became flawed because of the apple that the first people ate.

SKIF;44765

He could have made them "good," though.

He made angels that way.

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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Is man the most perfect being???? Who told you such nonsense? Man is the only species that kills its own kind. I am a very religious person, but not Orthodox. Here are my religious beliefs: God loves everyone. He loves everyone so much that he absolutely does not interfere in the life of the Universe. And no matter how people act, he will still love them. And there is neither heaven nor hell - everything happens here and now. And there is no death either, there is another side of life. God never punishes anyone. God created the world not to divide people into "good" and "evil". The world was created so that people could simply live.

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Night

19 years ago

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SKIF;44765

Who has seen God, so as to say that we resemble Him?
And it is foolish to blame people for their misdeeds if God knowingly created them flawed. He could have made them "good," couldn't He?

But you can't attribute all sins to that.

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Artes

19 years ago

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In my opinion, it's a preparation for life in paradise.

RedB

19 years ago

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I attend theology lectures just to be contrary... and regarding politics... hmm... during the socialist era, people were raised to be slaves, unaware of their rights. What will happen if you give such a person power? Nothing good. Overturning a system never makes things better. It's like growing up; you can't achieve anything in one go; years, centuries must pass for the unnecessary to be discarded. I believe in God; I don't need proof.

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Artes

19 years ago

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I also believe in God without any proof and advise everyone to do the same.

Nowizard

19 years ago

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Alex, you can't even imagine what a person is capable of, what untapped potential they have. Humans are not the only ones who can kill their own kind, and they are far from the only ones who do. All the problems that plague humanity and make it dysfunctional are created by humanity itself.

Бог есть любовь

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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And if humanity creates such problems, does that prove its progressiveness? In my opinion, the best thing a person can do is to renounce the title they have given themselves: "King of Nature" and "Center of the Universe." There won't be an apocalypse; people will make the Earth uninhabitable on their own. Moreover, not only humans will die out, but all living things. And after that, can we still say that humans are like God? He simply loves us so much that he allows us to even engage in self-destruction and doesn't interfere.

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Клан Homo homini - основатель клана
Член РКСМ с 07.07.07.
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