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Heroist

3/20/2015 6:26 PM UTC

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A chaotic parliament, throwing voting buttons around.

Understood.

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MedjersoN_HP

3/20/2015 7:24 PM UTC

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Ment

This isn't entirely my conclusion. I mainly wanted to emphasize that those who wouldn't use chemical weapons anyway will be the ones who suffer the most. And the mini-goal – to protect countries from chemical weapons – won't be achieved. Because all potential aggressors (except Ventorum) are outside the jurisdiction of the First Council and cannot be controlled by it.

Ah, so you think the council can't influence a country that isn't a member of the council?
Firstly, the statement "wouldn't use chemical weapons anyway" is quite debatable. Governments change, and no one can guarantee anything about the present situation, especially in retaliation.
Secondly, the council can require members to eliminate chemical weapons within their own borders, and force non-members to do the same. No one is saying that the council will tolerate chemical weapons in, say, the Steelmen, and even less allow them to be used and put their own countries in a disadvantageous position.

Ment

And this problem is easily solved for the Second Council (come and make peaceful decisions. Most of the countries of Actaea will likely make exactly such decisions), but it is not solvable for the First.

I don't see a big difference between the First and the Second. :confused:
All problems are solvable.

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается

kcfgogbfalgfl

3/20/2015 7:45 PM UTC

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I was wondering about something. What language should be the international (in-game) language? I was thinking of not reinventing the wheel and making it the American version of English, but that could cause some conflicts due to historical reasons: "English with some differences" is the official language of Kittypink, plus English names were used by many players on football teams from different countries; I could attribute this to the fact that "international" names are popular in many countries (I myself was thinking of using English because I got tired of Roman names and later Latin), but I wouldn't want to decide on this issue on my own.

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Ment

3/20/2015 7:46 PM UTC

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So, you think the Council can't influence a country that isn't a member of the Council?

Pretty obvious, isn't it? )

Firstly, the statement "they wouldn't use chemical weapons anyway" is quite debatable. Governments change, and no one can guarantee anything for the future. Especially in retaliation.

Well, yes, you can imagine many different scenarios, but in most cases, it will be like that.

Secondly, the Council can require its members to eliminate chemical weapons, and force non-members to do the same. No one is saying that the Council will tolerate chemical weapons in the case of, say, the Steel Men, and even less allow them to use it and put their own countries in a disadvantageous position.

What does "force" mean? The Steel Men are not part of the first Security Council. They are told: "Stop developing chemical weapons." The Steel Men's response (I'm omitting or replacing the profanity): "What? Who are you?" They are told: "We are the Security Council, and we have decided that the countries of Antara must..." The response: "We don't care at all, we are not part of your Security Council. Tell your wife how to cook borscht." "But what about security, blah blah blah?" "Go away!"
And, what's most amusing, the legal right and, in some ways, morality are on the side of the Steel Men. I would say they are absolutely right.)

I don't see much difference between the first and the second.
All problems are solvable.

Well, the Mushroom People have started to solve some problems. There, no one is solving anything. If you promise to put resolutions to a vote at the first Security Council (at least put them forward, although they have a good chance of being adopted) to admit countries and so on, then yes, then it makes sense to disband the second one. Of course, in my humble, subjective opinion, the second one is organized better (it's essentially an improved version of the first, with some unpleasant moments smoothed out, for example, the right of veto – it's normal that a couple of countries have it. Moreover, it's normal when the right of veto is held simultaneously by countries that are "not friendly" with each other. This slows down decisions a bit, but prevents the adoption of some stupid ones, some of which could even lead to a global war). And yet, the need for the second one will be greatly reduced, enough to disband it.

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Heroist

3/20/2015 7:48 PM UTC

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Just like the American version for Koshi, we can simply use the original English language.

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Ment

3/20/2015 7:49 PM UTC

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I was wondering. Which language is the international (Acteian) language? I was thinking of not reinventing the wheel and making it the American version of English, but this could cause some conflicts on a historical basis: "English with some differences" is the official language of Kittypink, plus English names were found among many players of football teams from different countries; I could attribute this to the fact that "international" names are popular in many countries (I myself was thinking of using English, because I got tired of Roman names and later Latin), but I wouldn't want to solve such a question on my own.

Very simple, Revan. First, let's see how popular the languages are in different countries. For example, Arah and I have French. I don't know about Tarpawlin. I suggest conducting a survey to find out which language everyone has (if it hasn't been specified in the quents yet), and then summing up the Influence and culture indicators. The international language of Actea is the one with the highest indicator. What do you think?

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Драккошка

3/20/2015 7:52 PM UTC

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Koshy uses a Soviet-era version of English with pronunciation according to GOST standards. I don't see a problem; we can easily make English an international language. I've already incorporated it for "speaking" names and titles, which would look awkward written in transliteration in New Civilization. My propagandists will come up with something. Moreover, English is the language of New Civilization, in which our countries were originally created.

А, вот почему.

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Heroist

3/20/2015 7:52 PM UTC

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The international language of Actaea is the one with the highest score. Right?

No, then some Frenchman will win, and the Quasardastanians won't talk at all afterward.

There is no official language in Quasardastan; most citizens know the main international language. Nevertheless, among the lower classes, a so-called "Quasardastanian language" is actively used for communication, which is a mixture of the local and several foreign dialects. This language differs little from the international one, but most of its words are distorted, shortened, and pronounced incorrectly, including the placement of stress; there is no grammar or punctuation as such, but it is much more convenient to use than its older counterpart. The main speakers of the Quasardastanian dialect are workers in most industries, as well as slaves and all other outcasts of society.

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Ple-Sen

3/20/2015 7:55 PM UTC

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Which language should be the international (Aktean) language? I was thinking of not reinventing the wheel and making it the American version of English, but this could cause some historical conflicts: "English with some differences" is the official language of Kittypink, plus English names were used by many players on football teams from different countries; I could explain this by saying that "international" names are popular in many countries (I myself was thinking of using English, because I got tired of Roman names and later Latin), but I wouldn't want to decide this issue on my own.

I'm kind of in favor of English, as I myself had English names. However, I was also thinking about changing this aspect, considering the names of both the country and the capital.

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Koshy suggests a Soviet version of English.

Ment

3/20/2015 7:55 PM UTC

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No, then some Frenchman will win, and the Quasardastanians won't talk at all afterward.

Most likely, it will be English, actually. Revan has a lot of influence and all that, and there are a lot of Anglophiles among us.

I'm kind of for English, since I myself had English names. However, I was also thinking about changing that, considering the names of both the country and the capital.

Well, we can go with English. As I said, he has the highest chances. But let's give him an Australian accent? ) Just kidding.