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Драккошка

11 years ago

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What about the Emperor?

А, вот почему.

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Ment

11 years ago

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It seems that neither of our "security councils" is thinking about peace.

Create a third one, so it would think about peace ))))
Actually (I'm speaking now specifically as a player, not as Champignon), the second Security Council is indeed not ideal. And the Champignons can use it as a pretext for certain actions against Ventorum, probably not an attack, but something like sanctions. But... Only because Ventorum is not participating. The "veto power" rule would not allow anything to be adopted against Ventorum if they were present at the Security Council. Yes, this was partly the calculation that they would not show up. But, if they had shown up, the new Security Council would have been almost 100% a peaceful and objective organization. How paradoxical ) Although, yes, the calculation was not exactly that, I agree.

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Небо

11 years ago

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What about the Emperor?

Well, I have a separate universal state, independent from the Imperium. And there are no gods there.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Драккошка

11 years ago

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Maybe we should create/reorganize the Security Council so that it includes absolutely everyone by default? And if we want to play a cold war game, we can create analogs of NATO and the Warsaw Pact.

А, вот почему.

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Ment

11 years ago

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What if we want to play a cold war game? Let's create analogs of NATO and the Warsaw Pact.

Psst, analogs of NATO and the Warsaw Pact already exist.

Maybe we can create/remake the Security Council so that it includes everyone by default?

I've already done that. I'm telling you, if you want, we can make version 3))) Mushrooms aren't as stubborn as Ventorum; they'll protest, but in the end, they'll come to an agreement.

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Heroist

11 years ago

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I don't understand, Mент, why now your government is hindering the economic and military development of the country, even though the economy is at ninety-seven points. I can't grasp it. You have a socialist opposition, but it's suppressed and can't do anything. Stupid and corrupt members of parliament are controlled by corporations, and there's no evil dictator. So what's stopping you? Are there also idiots in the corporations, making deals with who knows who and for what reason? What's the problem?

Whatever

kcfgogbfalgfl

11 years ago

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If the UN1 prohibits something, then all its members cannot have it. But the irony is that in our case, the UN1 prohibits its members from having chemical weapons, and suddenly all sorts of Steelmans start acquiring them and don't care about the UN1; it didn't prohibit them. As a result, the UN1 simply...

As a result, it will simply be Iraq.

By the way, I have overcome high mortality and poor health, and I have almost overcome obesity.

Drug distribution is tightly controlled by the government.
Third party candidates are now gaining some representation in Parliament.
Heavy industry must go to expensive lengths to dispose of waste.

"Evil capitalists."

Revan: when he starts the main part of the game.

Maybe Revan fell in love, fell into depression, driven by a negative outlook on life, and will no longer organize anything. Then the Mushrooms will stagnate in the development of their state apparatus.

Стартовый пост - Квенты - Разное -
Резара - Аксель - Орвальд - Эмилия -

Драккошка

11 years ago

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"Evil capitalists."

Don't interrupt me while I'm brainwashing the population.

А, вот почему.

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Небо

11 years ago

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Perhaps Revan fell in love, became depressed due to a negative outlook on life, and will no longer host anything.

:smile20:

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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MedjersoN_HP

11 years ago

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Ment

As a result, the UN simply weakened its members and exposed them to the threat from the Steelmen, who possess chemical weapons.

But this is precisely the wrong conclusion. If someone uses a despicable, prohibited tactic, there is no need to wish to use the same tactic and become like them.

Chemical weapons are one thing; if a country doesn't have chemical weapons at all, then the resolutions don't contradict each other.

But if there is a conflict between two countries, and the Security Council supports the first one, while opposing the second, then that's a problem.

The problem isn't with the Security Council; the problem is that they are not pacifists in reality.

В тихой однообразной жизни всегда так бывает: каждый отдельный день бесконечно долог, но месяцы и годы мчатся с непостижимой быстротой.

I wanted to offer you some flowers, but a crown would suit a princess like you much better

Смысл жизни в том, что жизнь на тебе не заканчивается

Ment

11 years ago

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I don't understand, Ment, why your current government is hindering the country's economic and military development, despite having an economy rated at ninety-seven points. I can't grasp it. You have a socialist opposition, but it's suppressed and can't do anything. The stupid and corrupt members of parliament are controlled by corporations, and there's no evil dictator. So, what's the problem? Are there also idiots in the corporations, making deals with who knows who and for what reason? What's stopping them?

Corporations aren't that concerned with the country's military development – that's one thing. Two – they don't have complete power yet. They might gain it, and then it's quite possible they'll change the foreign policy course. But for now, they're only putting pressure on certain issues.
Regarding economic development: some markets will be acquired, and some will be lost. In any case, the Mushroom People will continue to form economic alliances and try to wedge themselves into the old ones. Unfortunately, the AFTA meeting last time coincided with the Security Council meeting, but the Mushroom People will join it whenever they have the opportunity.

Maybe Revan has fallen in love, become depressed due to a negative outlook on life, and won't organize anything anymore. Then the Mushroom People will stagnate in the development of their state apparatus.

Ehhh..

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Heroist

11 years ago

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So, who's in charge now? Are the Barbarians with their sticks still in power?

Whatever

Драккошка

11 years ago

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Oh, never mind.

А, вот почему.

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Ment

11 years ago

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That's precisely the wrong conclusion. If someone uses a despicable, prohibited tactic, there's no need to want to use that tactic yourself and emulate them.

This isn't entirely my conclusion. I mainly wanted to emphasize that those who wouldn't have used chemical weapons anyway will be the ones who suffer the most. And the mini-goal – to protect countries from chemical weapons – won't be achieved. Because all potential aggressors (except Ventorum) are outside the jurisdiction of the First Council and cannot be controlled by it (here I'm speaking again as a player, understanding who the potential aggressor is in the current world order). So, where's the logic?

But if there's a conflict between two countries, and one Security Council supports the first, and the other supports the second, then that's bad.

In a rare case. Because in most cases, the idea of the Security Council is precisely to calm everyone down without military intervention. That is, problems will arise if the warring countries do not accept any resolutions regarding themselves and continue to fight. Then the Councils will have to take real action, and that's when they can contradict each other. But that's a really difficult case. Besides, frankly speaking, if such a dilemma arises, it merely underscores a simple fact: a single, first Security Council would not have handled the situation any better. Because it is not even capable of looking at the situation from different perspectives, due to the more limited number of countries present there. So, having two Councils in this regard at least does not worsen the situation.

The problem isn't with the Security Councils; the problem is that they are not pacifists in practice.

And this problem is easily solved for the Second Council (come and make pacifist decisions. Most of the countries of Actaea will most likely accept such decisions), but it is not solvable for the First.

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Ment

11 years ago

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So, who's in power then? Are the barbarians with sticks still in charge?

A wild parliament, throwing buttons for voting. From time to time, it is bribed by corporations, and then it makes decisions in their favor. From time to time, Roger manages to use his gift of persuasion, and the parliament produces something that seems reasonable to him, Roger. But none of this is permanent.

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