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Should we wait for you?
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Definitely will
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I’ll probably be there, but I can’t say for sure yet
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I won't
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zloy_romantik
In everything :)

Once, I was a supervisor over several girls (no, I'm not a pimp). You walk into the office, and the atmosphere is charged, it's about to explode, how can any work get done? You start talking, but nothing works. Then, slowly, you unravel the ball of yarn, and it turns out that two girls came to work wearing the same shoes. Can you scare me after that with the word "everything"?

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Dirty_Player
I wrote about this to you in the neighboring topic. Now, over 100 people play in online tournaments. Therefore, people are not ready to spend 50,000 rubles on a trip just to play Heroes! But you keep talking about Krasnodar... And about 2004.

I can't even imagine, in modern realities, how much time it would take to play a tournament with 50 people.

Either ban me - or don't interfere. :smile13:
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Either ban me or don't interfere. :smile13:
I'll think about it. :smile13:

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Wicc
I'll post Korolev's application soon, and we can discuss it.
And who is the financial guarantor? Vigo? :smile13:
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and what should you do then? buy tickets at the last minute, when it becomes clear where all the fish will go?) :D
You know everything yourself! ;)
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Are we having a schism? What's going on? :confused: :confused: :confused:
In the current situation, gathering everyone in a place that suits everyone is the best option, however regrettable that may be. It's a shame that the organizers' ambitions are taking precedence over the common goal... Instead of a full-fledged major tournament, we're getting three small ones with 10 people each.
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Okay, you'll read Yuri's proposal and probably understand that it's impossible to combine these two options – everything is too different: version, location, price, conditions...
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And who is the financial guarantor? Vigo? :smile13:
Vigopess and Merlin'wife :smile13:
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Instead of a full-fledged major tournament, we get three small ones with 10 people each.
Konstantin, it's not a given.
This is more likely for Volgograd: 10 people might be enough to hold a 3-player tournament, but given what the organizers and inspirers of Volgograd are offering, it's a disaster, as the Germans say...
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I'm afraid of repeating Merlin's fate, who died for our sins (no).
In short, don't overdo it. I just looked at who was willing to play in the Queen tournament from Moscow - Stinger, Yama-Dharma, Vitalik, Vigo, I think they know me, we'll come to an agreement. Unfortunately, I only crossed paths with Bishop twice, but Chaos and Dilvish spoke very well about this respected player.
In St. Petersburg - Horn, AlexGreat, Bayazet, Matrosov, I can't imagine that it would be impossible to come to an agreement with these people. They're all our own.
Any event where there are more than one person and participants are involved voluntarily is a system of mutual concessions. You give us the version, we give you the event in your city, you have few sponsors, but you brought more strong players, etc. You can negotiate each point, if there is a desire.
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Konstantin, it's not a given.
It's more likely that there will be 10 people in Volgograd: for holding a tournament in a 3-player format, it might even be good, but considering what the organizers and inspirers of Volgograd are offering, it's a disaster, as the Germans say...

It won't affect anything at all; it just means less hassle for the organizer. Instead of a large conference hall for all 24 hours, we'll take a smaller one, and so on.
And the rest will always be good because of the nice location, good weather, excellent and positive people, and great beer – what more do you need to have a great time?)))
P.S. And where did you get the idea that Volgograd is expensive? Can you provide examples and a comparison in terms of the level of accommodation and so on?
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Yeah, community members, it's not working out very well; it's not cohesive or friendly, and our community is losing what made it strong and is breaking down into separate groups. Instead of one full-fledged CIS Championship, where all players, fans, and viewers should gather, everyone is scattering to different places "based on interests." And the worst part is that the organizers suddenly decided to hold their own events on the same dates, just to spite each other.

Now that we have so many organizers appearing out of nowhere, and they all want to hold offline tournaments, why not hold regional qualifiers for the CIS Championship, as was planned before? What's the problem? Why ruin the wonderful traditions and break up our established celebration? I, for example, want to see everyone and have the best compete in one place, as it was before.
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P.S. And why do you think Volgograd is expensive? Can you provide examples, a comparison in terms of the level of the hotel stock, etc.?
I already wrote about this, I won't repeat myself.
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Leshy, what kind of qualifying tournaments are those? People simply don't have the money, or they create qualifying tournaments with large entry fees so that the winners can travel at the expense of the losers, but that's not a great idea...
And again about doing something "out of spite"... My tournament is for those who CANNOT come to this CIS tournament for some reason, but still want to relax for a few days among their own.
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Yeah, Community, it's not working out very well; it's not cohesive, not friendly, and our community, which used to be strong, is fading away and breaking up into separate groups. Instead of one full-fledged CIS Championship, where all players, fans of Heroes, and viewers should gather, everyone is scattering to different places "according to their interests." And the worst thing is that the organizers suddenly decided to hold their own events on the same dates, just to spite each other.

Now that we have so many organizers appearing out of nowhere, and they all want to hold offline Tournaments, why don't they hold regional qualifiers for the CIS Championship, as they wanted to do before? What's the problem? Why ruin the wonderful traditions and break up our established celebration!? I, for example, want to see everyone and the best players all in one place, as it was before.

Lesha, it used to be like that. Qualifiers were held in different cities, each was given three places, and the finalists themselves decided where to play the final and on which version: no one was singled out based on past achievements, 1 point or 4, one person - one vote. And it was the finalists, the best players in the CIS, who voted.
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I already wrote about this, I won't repeat myself.
Kirill, can you provide a link to the comparative analysis in your posts?
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Lesha, what kind of qualifying tournaments are these? People simply don't have the money, or they're holding qualifying tournaments with large entry fees so that the winners can travel at the expense of the losers, but that's not a great idea...
And again, it's all about spite... My tournament is for those who CANNOT come to this CIS event for some reason.
Yeah, it seems like Vika has the same idea. ;) Let's all hold a "CIS championship" in our own backyards. Then we won't have to go anywhere, it's too far, and people in Yekaterinburg will stay for the local event. Let Lizard hold it in Minsk, let the guys in Ukraine team up and hold it there too, and NO ONE HAS TO TRAVEL - we'll have a CIS event in 5 different places.

This loses the original meaning and global scope of the event! What prevents you from holding your own offline events for those who cannot afford the CIS event on other dates? Hold your M-200 in March, and that's it, it's the same thing, only the people who have already bought tickets for the CIS event will be able to come to you if they want. By setting the same dates, you are simply splitting the audience and undermining the Main Event, and you are also ruining your own attendance!

Roman, you could have added a little more and, instead of this "Petersburg" event, you could have made it to the CIS event in Volgograd, it's not that far for you, not for the whole duration, but just for a few days. I don't know what your reasons are, but it used to be different! There were no alternatives, everyone went to the one Main Event, and if they couldn't afford it, they "made do" with gatherings in the local scene, but on different dates.
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Lesha, that's how it used to be. We held qualifying tournaments in different cities, each was given three places, and the finalists themselves decided where to play the final and on which version: we didn't favor anyone based on past achievements, 1 point or 4, one person - one vote. And it was the finalists, the best players in the CIS, who voted.
Eric, I remember perfectly well how it used to be! And it would be better if it stayed that way. No one had thought of holding their own offline event on the same dates as the CIS event before. But this year, so many people have appeared who want to dilute the attendance at the CIS event. It's amazing.
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Roman, you could add a bit and, instead of going to "Peter," you could participate in a CIS event in Volgograd, not for the entire duration, but just for a few days. I don't know what your reasons are, but it used to be like that! There were no alternatives; everyone went to the main event, and if they couldn't afford it, they would "make do" with gatherings in their local area, but on different dates.
I would gladly come to Volgograd, but I simply can't afford it – the entire trip from "Peter" will cost about the same as a one-way ticket. I understand that you think it's better for people to stay home, watch streams from the main event, and just wish they could be there? My main reason is that even those with financial problems didn't feel left out.
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