Mafia 105. Raid of the Damned — Mafia — Page 27

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#393 1/2/2017 10:49 PM UTC

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I'm not really keen on tackling the last clue about the serial killer; the wording is too vague, and I don't know where to start. If we're going by the movie about the Three Musketeers, I managed to connect it to Aion, but it was a bit of a stretch, through Chevalier d'Éon. But the connection is weak, to say the least. From the Aion game page on Wikipedia, you can't really go anywhere else except to the CryEngine, and from there, presumably to Ubisoft. I don't know where to go from there.

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In short, the clues are a bit lacking. I hope we haven't missed the mark.

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#394 1/3/2017 2:58 AM UTC

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Okay, first of all, I'm not the Mafia. Yes, I made a mistake about Heaven, what can I do? But in this case, Master is to blame; I knew he had a tendency to go wild in games, but this time he really outdid himself. Regarding the situation: as I understand it, there's one Mafia member and one Maniac left. It's hard to say how many people the Maniac has infected, but the point is that if the town wants to win, they need to execute him today. The newspaper makes everything clear. Now, about the players. I don't understand why everyone is executing Neyra. I suspected her of being Mafia yesterday, and now I'm sure she's the last Mafia member. As for the Maniac, I suspected two people: Shaman and Ment. Shaman is dead, so now I only have one candidate. **Execute Ment.** Added after 23 minutes It's strange that Valentin blocked Master. It's as if he sent a night action beforehand, before the execution, and then didn't bother to check and change it all night. If that's the case, then it's a huge disrespect to him... Added after 3 hours 32 minutes Eclipse Engine - BioWare - Baldur's Gate - Interplay - Battle Chess - Blizzard - ArenaNet - Guild Wars 2 The connection works equally well in both directions without any interruptions.

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#395 1/3/2017 7:13 AM UTC

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it’s not me who’s acting like a drug addict, it’s your whole team led by Yashur. There’s no way Ment can be a man, based on the results of the second night; I’ve repeated this 10 times already.

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#396 1/3/2017 8:28 AM UTC

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They're so funny. No, I'm not against it, go ahead and execute me.
But considering the city's situation (and I'm not even mentioning the mafia), wouldn't it be stupid to give the murderer an unconditional victory, just for the sake of the city winning?
Personally, I'm for the city winning, which has a good chance. But if you execute me now, you'll almost certainly give the victory to the murderer, who should have infected all of you a long time ago.
Therefore, firstly, Master, please don't be an idiot. Secondly, you need to urgently execute the murderer-Mentalist, before the city is completely ruined. It's much nicer to have a fair victory for the city, achieved with everyone's efforts, than the victory of a somewhat overpowered murderer.
And if you don't do that, fine. I wasn't really following the game closely anyway.

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#397 1/3/2017 8:31 AM UTC

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Master, I have nothing to do with Yashur and his team. Yes, I was a clueless blunderer and misunderstood everything, but I'm not Mafia. However, Neyra, whom you're going to execute, is actually Mafia.

Compare the golem's murder on the second night and the serial killer's murder on the fourth night. They are completely different. In the first case, they attacked with magic, which is stated explicitly – a hint towards a Fortress unit. In the second case, everything is described as an attack by a monster, leaving terrible, torn wounds. This is clearly not the same thing.

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#398 1/3/2017 8:33 AM UTC

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Does anyone who talks about mana-Menta care to "explain" to me how it happened that on the second night, NOT Bryce killed the golem? Hmm?

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I don't care about descriptions of the kills. I want an explanation from a logical point of view, based on the turn order.

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#399 1/3/2017 8:56 AM UTC

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Master, you're playing against real people, not robots, and sometimes it's simply impossible to understand their logic. Therefore, the best approach is to rely on reliable information, i.e., newspaper descriptions. The golem wasn't killed by Bryce because he was killing creatures before Hardund's turn, as he was raised by an orc. Better pay attention to solving the clue.

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#400 1/3/2017 9:14 AM UTC

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Fragment

Master, you're playing with real people, not robots, and it can be simply impossible to understand the logic of others. Therefore, the most correct thing is to rely on reliable information, i.e., newspaper descriptions.

The golem wasn't killed by Bryce because he was killing before Hardundr's turn, as he was raised by an orc.

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It's better to pay attention to the clue's solution.

The very first time you follow your clue to Bioware, you immediately see an intersection with Gur's quest. Tox promised that there would be no intersections. So, there's no point in looking further.

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Secondly, why is there a transition to Baldur's Gate, and not to any other game from the long list?

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#401 1/3/2017 9:23 AM UTC

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The very first transition based on your riddle to Bioware immediately reveals an overlap with Gur's quest. Tox promised that there would be no overlaps. So, there's no point in watching further.

There is. This is essentially evidence pointing towards Gur's murder. Don't you want to call it a serious overlap?

Secondly, why is there a transition to Baldur's Gate, and not to any other game from the long list?

Because the others lead nowhere.

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#402 1/3/2017 9:28 AM UTC

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In short, here's how I see it.
Cop - Taniel, Mold - Hardundr are peaceful. (Mold came to Cop on the first night and got beaten up along with him by Bryce.)

Fragment - Orc - Mafia, Neyra - Valentine - Town. On the second night, any normal Mafia player playing as Valentine would hide (especially since there was no block). If Cop was Town and had hidden, we wouldn't have seen him in the newspaper. The Orc was most likely protecting Bryce because he could have been targeted by the Mafia's killing ability or simply killed by a ranged unit or Town member.

If Cop turns out to be Mafia, I'll be interested to know how he figured out that Yaschur was Mafia. Because if Cop was wrong, he would have been immediately executed. And what the real investigator was doing at that moment. So he's an idiot for letting that happen.

Anyway, that's how it is, I'm not changing my vote until the end of the day, whatever happens.

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#403 1/3/2017 9:37 AM UTC

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Because Ment is a Taniel-maniac, you're so stupid, Mafster -_-.

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#404 1/3/2017 9:44 AM UTC

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Master, firstly, what made you think that Valentin is a maniac? Secondly, the Orc's defense would have been displayed, but it wasn't, which means he was doing something else.

If the Cop suddenly turns out to be a Mafia member, I'll be interested to know later how he figured out that the Lizard is Mafia. Because if the Cop makes a mistake, he would be immediately executed. And what was the real investigator doing at that moment. So he's an idiot for letting that happen.

There's nothing stopping the Cop from being both an investigator and a Mafia member at the same time.