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Offline Ment
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It's clear now. Execute the Shaman. The Cop is 100% not Mafia. The Man used his own ultimate ability; the activation of the Orc's ultimate would look different (as I think). And I'm not saying that the Cop can't be Mafia. But if he is the Man, then the chances of the Orc being the main host of Kenkael seem doubtful to me.
I agree that I am 100% not Mafia, but you shouldn't execute the Shaman; I believe him based on certain points. I suspected him before, but now I doubt he is Mafia.
Shaman, could you explain your suspicions in more detail?
 

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That's why I saved the suspect, Ment, from execution, right? Very convincing.
Mana depends on living hosts. And if you hang me, you'll definitely lose. That's all.

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Shaman, could you explain your suspicions in more detail?
I'm just trying to understand exactly who created what and why something doesn't add up...
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I'm afraid we don't have much of a chance, even if the Nightmares kill me and the city gets lucky with something else.
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Actually, if you hang any peaceful creature, you'll likely lose... Well, not 100%, but you shouldn't expect anything good to come of it. And Non-Negotiable Victory is also not an option.
 

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All in all, I think it's time for me to cast my vote. I'll say this: I would have been more willing to vote for those I listed as the last two on my list. At least, based on what I'm seeing, that seems to be confirmed. Although, I should note, Master's latest post looks more or less peaceful, but you can expect anything from Master. And Fragment's vote doesn't add to the confidence either (Fragment is in the middle of my list). So, for now, I vote to eliminate Nera Drake. But in general, I would *really* like to see the clues solved. I don't have time right now, but I hope to participate in the search as well. I'll probably be back in the evening. Come on, guys, figure it out.
 

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I think Ruby was peaceful after all and was trying to turn Valentine, who was hiding timidly, into a frog. I don't have any other explanation for why her action isn't mentioned in the newspaper.

Now, of course, we need to lynch the Mafia. And the Mafia, in this case, if they want to win, will have to kill the Serial Killer at night. So it's not all that bad, we just need to not mess up with the target for the lynching.

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Let's have a triple day. Everything will be decided now, and in the next hour and a half, I probably won't be able to properly analyze the clues.
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If the Master is right about Ruby's actions, then there are only two Mafia members left: Bryce and the Orc.
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If the Master is right about Ruby's actions, then there are indeed only two Mafia members left: Bryce and the Orc.

Why two? I still consider Valentina to be a Mafia member. On even nights, he hides, and on odd nights, he blocks. If I understood the description in the third newspaper correctly, he blocked the Mentalist there. He was afraid of being checked.

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Oh, no, there's nothing about a block there.
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No, guys, when roles that could potentially be recruited are on the verge of elimination, I wouldn't reveal whether they're for the Mafia or the Town. It's more interesting that way! Use your logic and think. =)
So, we don't even have a way to accurately determine the number of living Mafia members? Well, that's a bummer... But on the other hand, it's good that the situation could still be better. However, we need to consider all possibilities.
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Yeah, just like in the game before last, I started cleverly defending a fellow Mafia member when he was already definitely going to be executed, and I pretended not to know the set, which I accused Uranus of, suspecting him of being a Mafia member. It was all "perfectly logical."
This is at least some kind of distracting maneuver. What's the purpose? Didn't want to be accused of adding a vote? In conjunction with the other posts, it doesn't look very peaceful. And the subsequent post with a vote also looks ambiguous.

In short, I think this: we need to decide on one person to execute today, otherwise we won't get anywhere. It would be very helpful to solve the clues, but I'm already starting to feel sick from Wikipedia; I tried to give some possible leads, but you guys help out a little...
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At the Nuremberg trials, Baldur von Shirach and Albert Speer were sentenced to 20 years. There's not much information about the first one, but there are many links about the second one, and I just gave up.


I don't believe that you are actually guessing the clue, but rather associating it with someone. Shirach has many really good connections (Anglo-Boer War, Henry Ford), etc., but Speer doesn't have anything substantial in terms of feedback when you first go to his page.
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Why two? I still consider Valentina a member of the Mafia. On even nights, he hides; on odd nights, he blocks. If I understood the description in the third newspaper correctly, he blocked the Investigator there. He was afraid of being checked.
No, that's not right. If Valentina was Ruby's target, and Ruby is very likely a member of the Mafia, then Valentina himself cannot be a member of the Mafia. That leaves only the Orc, who was suspected of being a member of the Mafia anyway.
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However, the subsequent post with voice acting also seems ambiguous.


What's ambiguous about it? I was sure that the Mafia killed the investigator, whom they failed to kill with an ultimate ability on the first night. But then, thanks to Mental's hints, I realized that the investigator is alive, and he's executing Yashur not because he predicted something before the game.
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I don't believe you're actually deducing clues, but rather associating them with someone. Shirach has a lot of really good connections (the Anglo-Boer War, Henry Ford, etc.), but with Speer, there's nothing coherent in terms of feedback when you first navigate the page.
What...? It's as if you just opened Speer's page for the first time and clicked on something at random. Karlsruhe University, the Nazi Party rally grounds, Spandau prison, films, the world capital Germany... Should I continue?

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What's ambiguous about that? I was sure that the Mafia killed the Investigator, whom they couldn't kill with their ultimate ability on the first night. But then, thanks to Ment's hints, I realized that the Investigator was still alive, and he's executing Yashur not because he predicted something before the game.
I can understand the usual confusion that's an integral part of this game, but the thing here is the combination of posts and overall behavior. And your confusion is strangely inconsistent with that.
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Guys, please, if you agree to organize a triple-day event, reply in this thread using bold font. If we get 4 votes, it will be a triple-day event.
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I agree.
It will take at least a day to gather all the votes.
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