Is the Unified State Exam (USE) a good or bad thing? — Everything about everything.

KRuGeR1991

19 years ago

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The Russian exam is a joke, especially the criteria for evaluating the essay (they heavily criticized me for the phrase "I categorically disagree with the author," and a friend's Russian grade was lowered because of the exam, even though it was on the topic of "let's save the Russian language"). But the math exam is actually pretty good; I don't know why people complain about it...
Does anyone know if there's a Unified State Exam in physical education? I'm planning to take it.

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Святой_Паладин

19 years ago

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Kreesanya;94923

Paladin, (*whispering*) you can hide spurs in an extreme way - in the décolleté):D....though I haven't tried it myself - the size isn't right :D...

and besides - I'm already finishing my first course at the institute, and I still don't know how to use cheat sheets...

no, I'd rather do it my own way:)
I have many tricks;)

Пандора

19 years ago

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Everyone is now criticizing the Unified State Exam (USE)... In principle, I understand everything more or less, but still... I finished 10th grade, took a practice USE test, scored 53 out of 60 points (a top grade starts at 49 points), and I'm happy. I really like tests because if I don't know something, the chance of answering correctly is 50/50 (you can always eliminate 2 out of 4 answers), so the odds are pretty good.

That's why they criticize it, because "if you don't know something, the chance of answering correctly is 50/50." It seems to be easier for students, but the admissions committees of universities are not happy...

My opinion is this: if all universities recognize the USE (and not selectively, with the more prestigious ones turning up their noses), then why not the USE?
Because those who want to study will study (self-education plays a significant role here). And even if they take the USE, it doesn't mean they just randomly guessed and got it right. Not everyone is like that. I believe that there are smart graduates (I really hope there are). And they would have done well on the old exams too. And with the USE, it will be easier for them to get into university.

AlexeyPank

19 years ago

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The Unified State Exam is still a lottery, like any test. Real knowledge is not always reflected in the results. Moreover, the human factor has not been eliminated. And admitting students to universities based on the results of the Unified State Exam is complete nonsense. We need to look for a thinking person, not a walking encyclopedia.

Егор

19 years ago

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Nightly Edelweiss, blaming someone is, of course, a good thing, but you are wrong :) In task B8, you can list tropes either with commas or just with a 4-digit number. It seems to be a bug.

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Слоныш

19 years ago

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SandroXXL;94985

Note: It's an overused question – which train ran over Anna Karenina.

What? :smile07: Is this some kind of joke? I'm not aware of it...

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Nowizard

19 years ago

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Slonysh;95307

What? :smile07: Is this some kind of joke? I'm not in the loop...

You wouldn't believe the kinds of questions they ask there:mad:

The Unified State Exam (EGE) is *censorship*. I only got a 3 on the EGE because I disagreed with the author of the article in part C. AlexeyPunk, don't worry, there is a test of KNOWLEDGE, and a very good one at that, but testing CRITICAL THINKING? Forget about it.

Ta Kotoraya...

19 years ago

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I don't know... when I took the USE 5 years ago, everything was quite difficult. And knowledge was actually tested. Plus, they didn't have time to drill us for the tests—in our region, we were "pioneers"—they're always testing things on us! In any case, I didn't take exams for all subjects in the USE format—but Russian and Math, yes. It wasn't the easiest thing... for math, I only scored 72 points out of 100. At the same time, an 'A' starts from 71. Russian was higher. Literature, however, was taken in the traditional form—meaning an essay.
Overall, at that time, the procedure wasn't fully refined and the tests themselves weren't perfect—but I can't say they didn't test real knowledge! Yes, it was done in a rather specific way. For example, take Russian... well, how am I supposed to know which rule applies here??? I never actually studied them... I just KNOW that you have to write it this way and not another... I feel it... and why—doesn't matter!

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Слоныш

19 years ago

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Ta Kotoraya...;95365

For example, take the Russian language... how am I supposed to know what rule applies here??? I never studied them... I just KNOW that I need to write it this way, and not another... I feel it... and why - it doesn't matter!

Exactly... My Russian language and literature teacher was going crazy because of my knowledge of Russian: I write without errors, but I can't answer a single question about the rules verbally... :smile11:

Егор

19 years ago

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Nowizard

I only got a 3 on the Unified State Exam because I disagreed with the author of the article in part C.

Why lie? :) The maximum score for that part is 20 points! You can even get a 5 without it. And you can disagree with the author's position. But if your only argument is "because," then you deserve a 3... what's the dissatisfaction about?

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Nowizard

19 years ago

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Egor;95380

Why lie? :) In this part, the maximum score is 20! You can even get a 5 without it. And you can disagree with the author's position. But if your only argument is "because," then you should be happy with a 3... what's the dissatisfaction about?

Firstly, I didn't say I expected to get a 5 :) Since I almost completely failed part B (Tanya, Slonysh - I understand you so well :D).
Secondly, I clearly argued my disagreement with the author, and I even had many more words than the minimum required (300 or 320, I don't remember).

LeBron

19 years ago

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{AUTHOR of the topic} I took the Unified State Exam last year. Math - 78, Russian - 72, Physics - 77. I did much better on the practice tests (they are much easier). So, I strongly advise you not to relax... In general, the Unified State Exam can be viewed from different angles... On the one hand, tests are objectively fair. On the other hand, oral exams encourage the development of communication skills. Regarding literature, I would say that if the teachers are good, they will help you, so there is no need to worry too much, and the worst subject is Russian.

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Святой_Паладин

19 years ago

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The One That...;95365

I don't know... when I took the Unified State Exam (USE) 5 years ago, it was quite difficult. And the knowledge was tested. And they didn't even have time to prepare us for the tests themselves – in our region, we were the "pioneers" – they were always testing things on us! In general, I didn't take exams in all subjects in the USE format, but I did take Russian and math. It wasn't the easiest thing... I only scored 72 out of 100 in math. And a 5 starts at 71. I did better in Russian. Literature was taken in the traditional form – meaning an essay.
In general, at that time, the procedure wasn't quite perfected, and the tests themselves weren't ideal – but I can't say that they didn't test real knowledge! Yes, it was done in a somewhat specific form. For example, take the Russian language... how do I know what rule is being applied here??? I never learned them... I just KNOW that I need to write it this way, and not another... I just feel it... and why – it doesn't matter!

This phenomenon is called "innate literacy."
I have the same thing.
According to the rules, I'm completely clueless.
But I write everything with a top grade.:)
In general, it's a piece of cake.:) Some people have it, some don't. =)

KRuGeR1991

19 years ago

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And why isn't there such a thing as innate punctuation skills? I also spell words correctly, but that's because I read a lot and have a good visual memory.