Heroes VII — General

psatkha

10/20/2016 10:21 AM UTC

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acoustik

Question for those who play the licensed version: do you think the game is worth the money (today it costs 750 rubles)? Did the developers manage to deliver on what they promised? Does the product meet expectations?

I have a licensed copy, but the question here wasn't whether they could or couldn't, but rather a simple case of fanatical enthusiasm! :smile41:

The game engine is quite flexible, but I don't have time to delve into it in detail, and it's undeniable that, as usual, you'll have to tinker with it using the "trial and error" method! :smile47:

С уважением, Psatkha (Псатха)

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Неудачное планирование ведёт к неудаче ...

NCF - мод, добавляющий дополнительных существ в HeroesV 3.1

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acoustik

10/20/2016 10:46 AM UTC

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Ment

I'll let you in on a secret – 750 rubles is practically too much for any game; it's a mockery of the price. No, there are a few masterpieces that might be worth it, but Heroes 7 isn't one of them.

It's a raw product, like a beta version with a ton of balance issues and bugs. They only fixed the most critical ones.
I think it's worth buying when the price drops and/or some clever guys from heroescommunity release a fan-made patch. If they do.

I think the same way. And even more – I now have a thought: why don't all those who bought it stage a massive "complaint" against Ubisoft? People paid for a full-fledged product, but they got this *a long list of all the unfinished parts and shortcomings*. A year has passed, and now there's no further support in sight. Next, suggest options for getting out of the situation – resume support and bring the project to completion, return the money, or make the project open-source and hand it over to the community to be refined with mods by skilled enthusiasts (I think this is the most likely way to get a decent game in the end).

Nargott

10/20/2016 11:31 AM UTC

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What will that change?
Ubisoft invested their money in the game, and judging by all accounts, the game didn't pay off. Why would they continue to waste their money on a losing game, providing support, refunding money, and especially giving away the rights/source code for free? It's not in their interest, and they would never do that.

Imagine you sold a used car, and some time later, the buyer comes to you, complaining that the car broke down, demanding that you fix it at your expense, or refund the purchase price (which you no longer have), or give him your personal garage with all the tools so that the buyer can fix the car himself. And it's not like you're in a great financial position to begin with – let's say you're already in debt and paying a mortgage. And it's not about who's right, but about the fact that you simply can't afford it – for you, money is a matter of survival.

Selling the series to another company is a more realistic option.

Разработчик Heroes 5.5 WarGame Edition.
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Pridu

10/20/2016 12:07 PM UTC

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Nargott

Imagine you sold a used car, and some time later, the buyer comes to you, complains that the car broke down, demands that you fix it at your expense, or return the money for the purchase (which you no longer have).

Used, huh? That's funny....

Actually, if you don't consider this a standalone sequel about dwarves, then the game is fine. They spent a whole year "polishing" it, and the final version 2.2.1 turned out to be almost normal. What is there to return money for? You can play the game, complete campaigns, and there are no "critical" bugs.

The problem is that there is almost no fan-made content, and the game didn't appeal to either the players or even the developers.

2acoustik: The pirated version 1.6-1.8 and the current version are a huge difference.
750 rubles is not that expensive, it's like two beers at a cafe. If you want to try the Multiplayer, then definitely buy it. If you're just going to buy it, I definitely don't recommend it.

We introduced some restrictions into the Gameplay, a couple of times we played as Warrior heroes without upgrading any units at all (and without buying ballistas), and it turned out to be quite interesting.

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Nargott

10/20/2016 12:34 PM UTC

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Pridu

Used, huh? Funny....

Exactly - used. In terms of quality. Not in terms of price, which is inflated due to the brand (at the time of release, it was either 2 or 3 thousand).
And also used - in terms of reusing models from the 6th installment (personally, I haven't compared the graphics, but that's what the fans say).

In general, if we don't consider this standalone sequel about dwarves

Hmm, did I miss something? Why shouldn't we consider it, was it free?

the game is fine

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the game didn't appeal to either the players or even the developers.

Разработчик Heroes 5.5 WarGame Edition.
Сайт проекта - пока неактивен
Автор Асимметричных шахмат

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Pridu

10/20/2016 1:50 PM UTC

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Nargott

Hmm, did I miss something? Why shouldn't we consider it? Was it free?
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No, it's actually paid, and it seems like they're not even planning to fix the bugs in it. That's why I recommend that the person only get the original game for multiplayer, and not the expansion.

And there are a lot of bugs in the expansion: http://www.celestialheavens.com/forum/22/16155?p=365336#p365336

Gellau

10/27/2016 2:46 PM UTC

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That is, the music during the siege of the Academy is rather muted.

Utiferus

11/19/2016 11:08 PM UTC

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The discussion about this installment turned out to be rather weak this time. On the Heroes Community, this part was discussed with great enthusiasm, while here, it seems to be much less active than the discussions about Heroes V and even Heroes VI.

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HoM[M]ie

11/20/2016 5:59 PM UTC

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Thorenlawar

The discussion about this game turned out to be rather weak this time. On the Heroes Community, this game was discussed with great enthusiasm, but here, it seems to be much less lively than the discussions about Heroes V and even Heroes VI.

It seems that people across the country have a skeptical attitude towards Heroes 7. I don't know much about it, but I would like to play it someday. I'm even sure that I will like it.

aka Sir Holmes aka David Jones.

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Utiferus

11/20/2016 8:57 PM UTC

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HoM[M]ie

People across the country were somewhat skeptical about Heroes 7. I don't know much about it, but I want to play it sometime. I'm even sure I'll like it.

What about walkthroughs? Are there any Russian-language guides for the game? When I get a more powerful computer, I might buy the game and start playing it.

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HoM[M]ie

11/20/2016 9:40 PM UTC

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Thorenlawar

What about walkthroughs? Are there any Russian-language game guides available? I might buy the game and play it when I get a more powerful computer.

These days, you can find anything! I have the same plans, but Heroes doesn't even rank high on my list...

aka Sir Holmes aka David Jones.

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atlant108

11/21/2016 1:37 AM UTC

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Thorenlawar

The discussion of this installment turned out to be rather weak this time. On the Heroes Community forum, this part was discussed with a flurry of comments, but here it seems much weaker than the discussions about Heroes V and even Heroes VI.

But tell me, is there any point in discussing this game at length?
As a fan of the series, I am far from thrilled with the 7th installment. Here's my review:
/topic/10494/
(comment #1065)
And here are video reviews of this game by other fans:

Reviews of Might and Magic: Heroes VII

1) Devastating Review of Might and Magic: Heroes VII [Heroes of Might and Magic 7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZFDdMPcH-w

2) Might & Magic Heroes VII. Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlezhDlLlt4

3) What is: Might and Magic Heroes VII? Comparative Review and Assessment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAb1safk4Mk

4) Heroes of Sword and Magic. The Story of a Great Series (from the magazine "Igrovania")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Qldr6RTmQ

5) 5 REASONS WHY HEROES VII IS COMPLETE TRASH! Might & Magic Heroes VII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ijaT_J1ajA

6) In Focus: Might and Magic Heroes VII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RAKw71VGtU

7) Might & Magic Heroes VII - HIT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOP5AdTo3K8

Ment

11/21/2016 5:08 AM UTC

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Well, I've already shared my opinion. It has very high potential, but the implementation is poor and of low quality; overall, it's somewhat similar to a "4" in terms of quality. Hypothetically, with the involvement of modders who are interested in it, it could be turned into something great (I've posted one mod that does something positive in this regard). How it will actually turn out remains to be seen; for now, there aren't many modders involved.

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Utiferus

11/21/2016 10:21 AM UTC

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In general, Heroes VII is essentially the same as Heroes VI, but it attracted even fewer players due to a bunch of flaws, apparently. atlant108, I understand you. A lot of serious bugs, dumb AI, game crashes when trying to load a save… That’s what turns players away from this unfinished “game.” Not to mention the fifth part, even the sixth part had better game stability. And in this part, there’s just chaos in the technical execution of the game.