Posts from God... Truth or fiction?
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I'll answer right away and to everyone. What you're trying to prove to me, I proved myself 15 years ago. I professionally studied all theological schools and put them into practice (up to contemplation), including Catholic mystical schools. This conversation is pointless because we are in different weight classes. Go through the path that I went through, first, and then we can talk, if you still have faith, which is unlikely.
And for now – believe as long as you can, and may God grant that you believe for as long as possible.
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"So much has gone
and little is new"
David Bowie
In general, I'm personally quite tired of all this.
I'll answer once and for all. What you're trying to prove to me, I proved myself 15 years ago. I professionally studied all theological schools and put them into practice (up to contemplation), including Catholic mystical schools. This conversation is pointless because we are in different weight classes. Go through the path that I went through, first, and then we can talk, if you still have faith, which is unlikely.
And for now, believe as long as you can, and may God grant that you believe for as long as possible.
In short, by putting yourself above others, you simply gave up. I'm done, ladies and gentlemen.
I've already answered you personally; if you didn't understand, study theology, but not just theoretically, but practically, and then we can talk. I wouldn't start lecturing here because I don't like doing that, but when they methodically shove the Bible and Christianity in my face instead of arguments, saying, "study, dear," I say - I've studied more than you, and I know more because I've gone through a path that you still have to go through. A smart person listens and understands, while a foolish person tries to teach someone who, by definition, cannot teach them anything due to various reasons (that's just how it is, Nowizard, that's just how it is).
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"So much has gone
and little is new"
David Bowie
I have professionally studied all theological schools and put them into practice.
...study theology with me, and not theoretically, but practically.
in practice (up to contemplation)
I have plenty of arguments, Nowizard, but I realized that it's all just hot air. People accuse me of being repetitive, while not offering anything constructive, IN MY OPINION, because all these arguments are just childish babble to me. And yours too, I'm sorry. It's pointless to keep going around in circles, I've checked that repeatedly. Everyone still sticks to their own opinion (here's another argument for Apple with its vague differences in opinion and belief).
I've already answered you personally; if you didn't understand, study theology, not just theoretically, but practically, and then we can talk. I wouldn't start lecturing here because I don't like it, but when, instead of arguments, you keep shoving the Bible and Christianity in my face, saying, "Go study, my friend," I say - I've studied more than you, and I know more because I've gone through a path that you still have to go through. A smart person listens and understands, while a fool tries to teach someone who, by definition, cannot be taught anything due to various reasons (that's just how it is, Nowizard, that's just how it is).
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"So much has gone
and little is new"
David Bowie
Unfortunately, there's nothing I can say about experience; it can only be gained and felt. Everything I write is based on my own experience. If the previous two posts were the only ones I had made in this discussion, then your arguments would be valid, but I've already made over a hundred posts in this thread! And you haven't agreed with any of them (or almost any of them). That's the answer – no matter how much you feed a sheep, it will still look at you like a wolf. And that's natural because everyone has their own opinion and is free to agree or disagree. In principle, I'm sharing my experience not specifically with you, but with anyone who reads it and might find some answer for themselves. And that's the reason and the motivation behind why I'm "talking into the void" here. As for you and others like you, you've already found your "truth" for the time being, until that "truth" turns out to be "false" (let's hope it doesn't!). And until that happens (if it happens), you won't change your opinion even if I present you with a whole chain of logical arguments, because faith is "based on absurdity, not logic." And I'm not so naive as to believe that theory is my strong point, dear Apple, just as it isn't for anyone else. Theory is just a theory – nothing more. I can engage in scholasticism, but I don't think it's useful for anyone. That's what I mean by "talking into the void." I mentioned experience to conclude this discussion, which has already become pointless. At least, the people who are "entrenched" here at the moment, in my opinion, have exhausted themselves in this discussion. Everything that could be said about the topic and around it has been said and "thoroughly discussed," in my opinion. Therefore, I understand Apple's desire to learn something more specific than just definitions (sorry for the tautology). But the point is that you can't tell someone about experience – it's MY experience, and you will have a different experience, but it will definitely be different because it has to be – that's the law of existence. Perhaps in the future, this conversation could be much more productive, perhaps... but the point isn't in this conversation as such, but in the "path of faith." Faith is a path. You can't say that you believe without walking that path. Perhaps, after walking that path, you will believe, which means you will be better than me, because I, after walking that path, stopped believing.
P.S. Yes, indeed, I was one of the "characters" you mentioned, dear Apple.
Sorry for the rambling
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When has it ever happened that someone changed their opinion in an argument? But I still respect all the opinions presented. I have a good friend who is a devout Orthodox Christian. And I have complete mutual understanding with him, because we simply don't try to change each other.
An argument is a "test" of an opinion's strength. In an argument with others, we can notice problems and contradictions related to our opinion that we didn't see ourselves, and correct and supplement our position.
For some, they simply need hope, for others, they don't...
Life is a mysterious thing... and believing in something is, first and foremost, hoping for the best, and when there is hope, a person becomes better.
I respect all religions and faiths...
Днём и ночью от наших тел,можно слышать крики боли,из-за накопленных нашими душами грехов...