Unfortunately, there's nothing I can say about experience; it can only be gained and felt. Everything I write is based on my own experience. If the previous two posts were the only ones I had made in this discussion, then your arguments would be valid, but I've already made over a hundred posts in this thread! And you haven't agreed with any of them (or almost any of them). That's the answer – no matter how much you feed a sheep, it will still look at you like a wolf. And that's natural because everyone has their own opinion and is free to agree or disagree. In principle, I'm sharing my experience not specifically with you, but with anyone who reads it and might find some answer for themselves. And that's the reason and the motivation behind why I'm "talking into the void" here. As for you and others like you, you've already found your "truth" for the time being, until that "truth" turns out to be "false" (let's hope it doesn't!). And until that happens (if it happens), you won't change your opinion even if I present you with a whole chain of logical arguments, because faith is "based on absurdity, not logic." And I'm not so naive as to believe that theory is my strong point, dear Apple, just as it isn't for anyone else. Theory is just a theory – nothing more. I can engage in scholasticism, but I don't think it's useful for anyone. That's what I mean by "talking into the void." I mentioned experience to conclude this discussion, which has already become pointless. At least, the people who are "entrenched" here at the moment, in my opinion, have exhausted themselves in this discussion. Everything that could be said about the topic and around it has been said and "thoroughly discussed," in my opinion. Therefore, I understand Apple's desire to learn something more specific than just definitions (sorry for the tautology). But the point is that you can't tell someone about experience – it's MY experience, and you will have a different experience, but it will definitely be different because it has to be – that's the law of existence. Perhaps in the future, this conversation could be much more productive, perhaps... but the point isn't in this conversation as such, but in the "path of faith." Faith is a path. You can't say that you believe without walking that path. Perhaps, after walking that path, you will believe, which means you will be better than me, because I, after walking that path, stopped believing.

P.S. Yes, indeed, I was one of the "characters" you mentioned, dear Apple.